Aunt has died and her friend reluctant to leave her house

[JellyBook]

Our aunt died late November and she had a friend staying when she died. The friend lives overseas and doesn’t want to go (yet, she says).

Just getting a bit nervy about whether she will decide to stay even longer, and what problems that might cause. She has been left a lump sum in the will. The house and belongings are left to the estate to be sold and shared amongst various family members. Aunty leaves no spouse or children.

Do we have anything to worry about or should we just proceed with probate, sale of house and just tell her you need to make arrangements to leave?

God she sounds awful. What a devious old bag. I have visions of you having to carry her out by her arms and legs!

Where does she live? Are flights that expensive?

hope she doesn't change locks before saturdayso you can't get in

Good luck op - sounds like a nightmare at an already sad and stressful time!

"hope she doesn't change locks before saturdayso you can't get in"

My brother used to be a locksmith so that won't slow us down for long, he will arrive tooled up

Did you ever find out any more about the devious twat's attempt at getting POA, Jelly? I'm very glad for you that she's finally being turfed out minus all the stuff she tried to steal. And there's no mincing words, that's what she was attempting.

I love honeyroar's vision of you carrying her out by her arms and legs

I'm afraid that one the days when she's out of the house (eg. Visiting the friends she says she is staying in the UK for) or even just when she's out shopping I'd be doing a quick search of her bags for a bag full of aunt's stolen jewellery etc. Yeah it's underhand and sneaky and probably illegal but no more than her. You already know she's as legit as a £3 coin! Good luck OP. I hope you get her out without issue.

Problem with telling her you're changing the locks is could she get a copy of other keys made? Back door maybe? Or garage entrance or something? I don't know. As long as you're sure you've got everything of value out (and yeh I'd be tempted to check her bags..)

We're changing absolutely all of the locks, gates, garage doors in and through to the garden, front and back doors.

or even just when she's out shopping I'd be doing a quick search of her bags for a bag full of aunt's stolen jewellery etc

I would love to have been doing this, but the house is nearly 3 hrs drive away so stake-outs have not been possible.

Did you ever find out any more about the devious twat's attempt at getting POA, Jelly?

Solictior couldn't say too much because that discussion/appointment was when he was working for my Aunt, but he did tell me that when he discusses with a client about a POA being made, he must do this absolutely in private and anyone else, even a spouse or relative has to leave the room, and then he is free to discuss and make assessments unhindered.

So in other words, I think Aunty was either not lucid enough, or in fact lucid enough to tell him I don't want this.

It makes me so sad to think that she was under pressure like this.

What a nasty piece of work. Hopefully she's gone soon. Very sad that they're people like this. I remember my brother going into my dad's house when he died and cleared it of all valuables and then denied it :( we knew of some things but obviously not everything and he left just enough for us not to be suspicious. Then I found many many things in my brother's house later:( some people have no morals. Good luck on Saturday.

Just read the whole thread, some people have no morals at all!

That's awful, horrible women preying on your aunt when she was ill . Hope saturday goes well

What were the items she had forgot where they were? Were they rather valuable? I am glad you have an end date but she can pay all her expenses as it's nothing to do with you as to whe she goes lol I bet she won't stay in the hotel for long. I hope you have to have nothing further to do with her other than sort for what your aunt had left her

What an absolutely awful human being OP. I am so glad your solicitor has been switched on but I am so sorry that us cynics were proven right and that you're having to deal with it at all.

Just keep repeating "this isn't up for discussion". Hang in there.

What a vile woman. I hope it goes off without a hitch on Saturday. At least there isn't anything she can now steal anymore.

When my gran passed away my uncles went in and stripped everything of value. There were items gran had specifically said I should get but they disappeared. When DH's gran died the same thing happened with two uncles out of the 5 going in and taking what they wanted and then expected MIL to pay for the funeral and everything else. One of the uncles had already transferred most of the Gran's money before she had passed away. Nice, normal, honest everyday people turn into grabbing, thieving vultures when someone dies.

Thanks for the updates and thank god she’ll be out soon!

Wow. Thank you for taking the time to update the thread, I’m sorry you’ve had such a nightmare time!

Nice, normal, honest everyday people turn into grabbing, thieving vultures when someone dies.

This is so (depressingly) true, Bronte

A retired policeman befriended my (childless) uncle after he moved near him, tried to persuade DM to take uncle in, all while trying to get uncle to write a will favouring him (even drove uncle to the solicitors to arrange this)

This seems to be a running theme as a retired policeman did similar to my grandfather.

I'd be inclined to arrive on Friday instead to do the clear out and change the locks, and book the hotel for that night - just in case she has some mad plan to chain herself to the radiators or cause any other trouble on Saturday!

My lovely beautiful ndn was put into a care home after family telling her it was just for the week end.. She died soon after.
Her sideboard's worth of photos were dumped beside the wheelie bin. Only because the bin was full of all her stuff that wasn't worth selling.
Broke my heart.
Death brings out the worst in already nasty folk.
Ime.

Me being me, I would keep copies of any and all bills in relation to her time there after your Aunt died, and any receipts of things like travel lodge etc (if you are paying it) then deduct every one of these costs from her 'lump sum'

Unfortunately this crap is far more common than people realise. Leeches everywhere.