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Drugs test at work this morning

291 replies

LoliC90 · 30/03/2018 13:22

If you have smoked cannabis within the past week could this show up if tested.

When I was finished my nightshift this morning I was asked to go for a random drugs test where I had to provide a sample of my urine.

Worried I could lose my job now.

OP posts:
LipstickHandbagCoffee · 30/03/2018 16:09

Advanced first aid would include paediatric ingestion of drugs
And you can commission bespoke first aid for workplace,so if one works with problematic drug users who leave drugs inc cannabis lying about you can cover that

Haffdonga · 30/03/2018 16:09

My goodness some wild inaccuracies here:

Camilla It is not illegal to smoke cannabis in the UK.

It is illegal to possess, produce, buy, cultivate, deal, store or pretty much do anything else with it. The OP may well have been breaking the law last Saturday night when she smoked it, especially when the spliff was in her hand or she passed it on to someone else but the act of ingesting or inhaling a drug is not a crime.

Having traces of cannabis in her urine sample is not a crime . It just isn't.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 30/03/2018 16:14

And you can commission bespoke first aid for workplace,so if one works with problematic drug users who leave drugs inc cannabis lying about you can cover that Yes! I misread the first time... was relating it to ordinary, off the shelf 1st aid courses.

I have take a few of those bespoke courses, I should have thought before I posted Smile

TheUser420 · 30/03/2018 16:14

That’ll be from the tobacco in the spliff

You can vape or just smoke pure cannabis - no tobacco needed. Or you can dissolve it into butter (THC and CBD are fat soluble, which is why cannabis takes so long to be excreted from the body) and use it in cooking.

However inhalation is preferred as it's much easier to titrate a consistent dose (it's possible to stop before the psychoactive effects start) which is better for pain and spasm management (my use). Also cooking and smoking cause different cannabinoids to be released.

Speaking of cannabinoids, all drug tests can only look for metabolites of the substances - not the substances themselves. If you ever test positive for opiods remember to tell the tester that you like poppy seeds.

(Some US companies did try to ban their employees from eating poppy seeds for this reason).

The level of spite on this thread from some is shocking. Coming from an online community that generally guffaws and 'arfs' along with jokes about wine o'clock

Is alcohol a drug ? (answer: yes). And tobacco ? (answer: yes). Personally I wish the government banned both in order to be consistent, rather than perpetuating the ludicrous hypocrisy of the war on "drugs". I imagine quite a few posters here have had to explain to their DC at some point why tobacco - which still kills thousands of people in the UK every year is legal, whilst cannabis is illegal.

Oh, and coffee, tea and chocolate are all "drugs" - non-nutritional substances which affect the endocrine system (and which are often consumed for exactly that reason).

I've been growing cannabis for over 10 years (thanks to a fantastic online community in the UK ....). I'd never describe myself as an expert. But I'm pretty good at it - as well as harvesting, trimming, curing, and preparing.

StealthPolarBear · 30/03/2018 16:18

"its ok to be sozzled on some Hendricks by 8pm on a tuesday night but god forbid someone smokes half a joint on a saturday night."
It's not just OK. It's aspirational. And I do join in with the wine threads, but this is hypocrisy.

Gemini69 · 30/03/2018 16:20

I am random drug tested for my job. I've been tested throughout the many years of my career. My job depends on it. I agree with drug testing.

DaisyGiveMeYourAnswerDoo · 30/03/2018 16:23

If you haven't smoked weed in over a year, and were drunk, it's unlikely you would have had more than a couple of tokes. I would guess that those studies saying it lasts 8 days in your system are based on more than that.

You'll be ok, whatever happens. Stop worrying. And stop feeling guilty. It's a silly policy, and you won't have affected your ability to look after people properly days after.

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 30/03/2018 16:24

Daisy you cannot categorically say you’ll be okay whatever happens
Don’t dish out platitudes

TheUser420 · 30/03/2018 16:26

It is not illegal to smoke cannabis in the UK. It is illegal to possess, produce, buy, cultivate, deal, store or pretty much do anything else with it.

you forgot the "without a licence from the Home Office" rider.

Otherwise how would private companies be able to make money from the nasty medicine we 're not allowed ourselves ?

Oh, and by the way, it's totally legal to possess opium poppies. And you don't want to know how easy it is to get the latex from them ....

MooseBeTimeForSnow · 30/03/2018 16:27

DH is in the oil industry. Lots of massive equipment and high pressures, temperatures etc. Lots of opportunity to kill lots of people. Regular drug testing and they have the ability to take someone off shift and test immediately if they suspect intoxication by drugs or alcohol.

Bluntness100 · 30/03/2018 16:27

I don't think anyone on here is supporting drugs use, what is being done is its being contextualised in terms of the ops situation. Telling a clearly terrified woman she will have a criminal record if a trace is found in her urine and she should resign before the results come in is completely shameful behaviour.

I honestly don't know how some people live with themselves. No matter how much you disagree with smoking cannibis, it doesn't make it right for you to then lie to her, scare her, and try to frighten her into potentially needlessly resigning. Two wrongs never ever make a right.

gillybeanz · 30/03/2018 16:27

This happened to a friend at work and they refused the test and gave in his notice, rather than be sacked and it be on his record.
It's in your system for 3 weeks and you'll be sacked.

It's wrong to do this especially if your job isn't impacted by smoking last night.
My job isn't and neither was this man's, however, there are drivers in our place who are randomly tested so they do it across the company, stupid as I work in a call centre.
I too will lose my job if they choose me randomly. If I test I'd be positive too, so it's better to resign and refuse the test, imo.

loulou987 · 30/03/2018 16:29

Unfortunately yes it's very likely it will show up, cannabis is one of the drugs that's lingers in your system for quite a while after

Banterlope · 30/03/2018 16:30

People who smoke weed frequently talk bollocks, so maybe that explains the utter, utter nonsense Camilla has posted

Weed is legal all over the world and consumed by hundreds of thousands of people – none of the dire prophecies she has dreamt up have happened, and it isn't exactly new. It's a plant that grows out of the ground FFS

ThinkingQueSeraSera · 30/03/2018 16:31

You've broken the rules of your employment and lied.

Not any much sympathy OP and I say that as someone who has no issues with the odd bit of recreational drug use, but then it's not in my con tract to be tested...

Bluntness100 · 30/03/2018 16:31

Oh, and by the way, it's totally legal to possess opium poppies

I have opium poppies in my garden. Thanks to mumsnet for identifying them. I shook out the seeds as was advised and sowed a shed load more. Will be interesting to see if they come up in thr summer. What's illegal is harvesting them for drugs. Something I not only have no inclination to do, but I have utterly no knowledge of either. There are plenty of things you can have that if used for a different purpose would be illegal.

gillybeanz · 30/03/2018 16:34

Once you've taken the test, if found positive you won't have a chance to resign, you should have done it before the test.
The man who refused at our place and resigned, walked straight into another job.
Another man hasn't worked in over a year and the company called the Police, man has conviction.
I've got mine in my bag if they ever call me, at our company they choose randomly from a list of employee numbers, so they don't know who will be tested.
I don't think they should be able to test unless obviously your work means that yourself or others would be in danger.
It's the same for drink, they don't own you.
My job is min wage they don't get to dictate if I have a glass of wine at night, it's ridiculous.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 30/03/2018 16:35

It's a plant that grows out of the ground FFS

Erm... many poisons are. Whatever point you were trying to make got lost, I fear!

Starting at A - Aconite

Bluntness100 · 30/03/2018 16:36

Gilly what are you doing making shit up to scare her. No one has a conviction for testing positive to cannibis in their urine because it's not illegal to smoke it.

Honest to god, what the fuck is wrong with some people.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 30/03/2018 16:38

Good grief Gilly why?

That conviction has to be for something else. more than you know/have posted... cannabis in the blood/urine is not illegal.

As Bluntness sad... STOP IT! OP doesn't need all this crap!

Camiila · 30/03/2018 16:41

because it's not illegal to smoke it.
err, yes it is!

gillybeanz · 30/03/2018 16:41

The man was given a conviction and lost his job a year ago and hasn't worked since.
There's nothing to make up.
I smoke it myself most nights, not a lot but the same as a glass of wine.
My resignation letter is in my bag.
You resign before the test whether drinking or drugs.
I don't make the rules.

Nicknacky · 30/03/2018 16:47

gilly A conviction of what?

HeadOverMills · 30/03/2018 16:48

I've eaten a poppy seed muffin & tested positive for opioids......not always illegal/illicit drugs cause a positive Hmm

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 30/03/2018 16:48

I feel sorry for OP.
Camilla why not start your own thread? You've hijacked this one and OP is going ignored although she's clearly asking for support and advice.

Her comments that she can't eat or sleep despite just coming off a 12 hour night shift show how she's been affected by this.

But still people piling on to say they have no sympathy and gleefully scaremongering with "police involvement" , "you'll never work again" and "someone DIED"!

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