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Keeping my son in hospital against my will

434 replies

TaashenMartian · 16/12/2017 01:36

My son was born at 34 weeks on the 14th October with a heart condition. For the duration of his life (2 months) we have been in different hospitals. He is now stable enough to go home until his operation but because me and my sons dad had an argument in the hospital social services are involved and they won’t let us take him home. I have another child (a3 year old) who is still in my care and they have no plans to take her away. I want to know if they can legally keep my son in hospital due to safeguarding issues If my daughter is still in my care? Can I legally self discharge him if he is well enough to go home even though social services are involved? They have no reason to take my children from me as all it was was an argument, hence why my daughter is still in my care. But they are refusing to discharge my son until the case is resolved. Can they legally do this? What rights do I have? I feel if there are real safeguarding issues and my son can not be in my care then surely my daughter can’t either? Any advice would be much appreciated. This is incredibly stressful and I just want my son home for Christmas

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Bubbaleo · 19/12/2017 18:23

OP, come back, there are posters here who understand and believe you.

Bubbaleo · 19/12/2017 18:27

Yes, Battle Having said that, you'll probably get the row of laughing faces now Smile

Battleax · 19/12/2017 18:28

I'll live 😏

Bubbaleo · 19/12/2017 18:30

Pasta could you come back and explain the laughing faces? It was aimed at me so i'm interested?

ChequeredPasta · 19/12/2017 18:31

Sorry, I’ll reword:
There’s usually no smoke without fire. There’s often massive, blazing fires with smoke pouring of them, that will tell you they aren’t fire at all, and that you’re judgemental for seeing and smelling the fire. And other people will pile in, saying it’s unfair really, to say that you can see fire and smell smoke, what are you some sort of fireman? But regardless of that, there’s shit loads of fire in the world, and usually tons of smoke coming of it.
HTH Smile

ChequeredPasta · 19/12/2017 18:37

However, some people tend to throw insults instead of discussing it sensibly, don’t they?

My amusement was the sheer irony of this statement, along with amusement at the passive aggression.
Obviously I’m not amused by the suffering of anyone’s children. Which is an extremely odd thing to say, tbh

Bubbaleo · 19/12/2017 18:38

Neif, I don't think you've disclosed too much. The positive ending of your story is good for OP (any of us in fact) to hear.

Bubbaleo · 19/12/2017 18:43

Thanks for the explanation, but it's an extremely odd thing to do, putting a row of laughing faces when people are telling personal and sad stories.

ChequeredPasta · 19/12/2017 18:46

However, some people tend to throw insults instead of discussing it sensibly, don’t they?

Ah, my mistake, I didn’t realise this was a personal and sad story.

Bubbaleo · 19/12/2017 18:53

Hope they leave that on Pasta for all to see.

ChequeredPasta · 19/12/2017 18:54

As in the comment you made in the quote above my last comment.

Bubbaleo · 19/12/2017 19:00

For Killer, Neif and anyone else who's been through the mill Flowers Flowers

gingergenius · 19/12/2017 19:10

I'm stunned that a social worker is naive enough to say couples shouldn't argue. Utterly ridiculous.

Can you ask to speak to her line manager and say that whilst you're keen to cooperate sw has said this and you'd like an objective viewpoint?

gingergenius · 19/12/2017 19:12

Ah sorry op posted before I'd read your update. Apologies.

Animation86 · 19/12/2017 19:35

WHY would SS want to take children from homes unnecessarily?

They barely take them from homes when it is , in my experience

Neiflette · 19/12/2017 19:44

Bubbaleo Thank you. Flowers

CurryWorst · 19/12/2017 19:51

I'm stunned that a social worker is naive enough to say couples shouldn't argue. Utterly ridiculous

Do you not think then its rather more than possible that they didn't?

NoqontroI · 19/12/2017 19:53

Well you need to get some answers one way or another. Get the solicitor to do that. They can't just keep him without making it very clear why and going through set processes. Regardless of whether you, or the sw is in the wrong, and without seeing the assessment I have no idea which it is, but you do have the right to know exactly what is going on, and you have the right to appeal against it, which, if what you are saying is true, then of course you should.

washingupbowl · 19/12/2017 20:01

op I believe you

gingergenius · 19/12/2017 20:07

@CurryWorst I was trying to be diplomatic in my post.

Killerfairy · 19/12/2017 20:11

curry what's your point in this thread? You go from thread to thread with your negative posts.

You think the op is a liar. Ok fine. Move on your work here is done, what support are you adding to the thread as that what it was set up for ?

iboughtsnowboots · 19/12/2017 20:46

What I could imagine is an aggressive argument, perhaps with a physical element and the sw saying that with a small, sick baby in the middle the couple shouldn't be having these kinds of arguments. What OP hears is couples shouldn't argue.

There is likely to be an element of objective truth to OP's statements but I would expect the sw and nursing staff may have a different version of events.

Bubbaleo · 19/12/2017 21:53

Snowboots, nobody saw or heard the argument.

Bubbaleo · 19/12/2017 21:58

There's a lot of guessing, assuming and imagining on this thread rather than supporting a mother and baby in difficulty until we know more.

Marmitemadmummy · 19/12/2017 22:08

I don’t have any real advice other than as parent of a child with a heart condition I can empathise. Having being on the receiving end of a hospice calling in SS unnecessarily it is really crap. The situation you are in is awful. Please join heartline families on fb or their forum for some more support. If you are in the South West there is heart families South West on fb. Have some totally not typically mumsnet xxxx as you totally deserve them xxxx