Keeping my son in hospital against my will

[TaashenMartian]

My son was born at 34 weeks on the 14th October with a heart condition. For the duration of his life (2 months) we have been in different hospitals. He is now stable enough to go home until his operation but because me and my sons dad had an argument in the hospital social services are involved and they won’t let us take him home. I have another child (a3 year old) who is still in my care and they have no plans to take her away. I want to know if they can legally keep my son in hospital due to safeguarding issues If my daughter is still in my care? Can I legally self discharge him if he is well enough to go home even though social services are involved? They have no reason to take my children from me as all it was was an argument, hence why my daughter is still in my care. But they are refusing to discharge my son until the case is resolved. Can they legally do this? What rights do I have? I feel if there are real safeguarding issues and my son can not be in my care then surely my daughter can’t either? Any advice would be much appreciated. This is incredibly stressful and I just want my son home for Christmas

spero is a long time poster and does not lie. Clearly curry has backed him/herself in a corner.

See next post. If that person actually was a barrister, I'm sure they would tell you that obviously they only see the cases that go to court, not all the others.
(not that they should have to tell you that, it is obvious)

This is the thing with posters that have not been around for a while. It's not always been this fight club you know

Killer fairy - curry has certainly not backed themselves in a corner.
I’ve made lots of comments to my gp - none have led to a child sex abuse examination. What on earth did you say?

My mother kept my brother and sister while getting beaten by her husband and taking him back after she was in a refuge. Sure they were on CP, but never removed, even when he attempted to murder her. It went on for years and they came very close to removal, but never did.

I have Borderline PD and past drug abuse and thought my child would be taken at birth. Not so. I was offered so much support and everyone was telling me how well I was doing. I was genuinely blown away that they could see how far I'd come.

It doesn't make sense, unless different LAs operate their SS differently...

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but in my experience they were pretty... "Relaxed".

It doesn't make sense, unless different LAs operate their SS differently

They do sadly

And well done neiflette you've come through a lot

So what did you say to the gp that led to a CSA investigation? In a nutshell?

I suspect there is a combination of factors here though. It is never going to be as black and white as someone ringing social services and saying "I heard a couple having an argument so could you please get involved." Equally those who have serious SS involvement are never going to admit that there were genuine reasons for concern about their parenting.

However it may happen that someone reports to SS and it turns out the concerns relayed to them are unfounded in which case the individuals reported are going to stay with the notion that the only reason someone reported them was because of e.g. An argument for instance.

People do come under the SS radar and not all children are removed. So if anyone stated that on here they are absolutely wrong/misinformed/intent on spreading hatred.

But if someone has genuinely wrongly been reported to SS then I would be inclined to think that that report was malicious or misinformed rather than that SS have the time/inclination to follow up cases and seek to remove children purely because of an argument between parents.

And it's also worth noting that there is a vast difference between someone off the street ringing SS and SS becoming involved after the concerns raised by medical professionals who will have had CP training and have a better understanding of what constitutes concerns for the wellbeing of a small baby.

Equally I don't think that people who believe they have done nothing wrong are deliberately lying. Nobody is going to believe that what they're doing is deliberately harmful to their children are they? But at the point the authorities become involved it stands to reason that they are going to become defensive of their own position, especially if that position is one of neglect/potential neglect rather than serious abuse.

There’s no smoke without fire.

That's one of those markers of deeply unintelligent mob mentality, isn't it?

I'm glad about that Neif. I know there are some really good SW's but there are a small number (i hope) that are really bad. They emotionally damaged our children and caused physical harm to other children by inaccurate, false reporting and they got away with it.

I'm going to leave that to your judgey nasty imagination cheque

An off the cuff remark to your GP led to measures being out in place to investigate the sexual abuse of your child, KillerFairy...
Can't you see that whatever the hell it was you said (I can only imagine) would not have been said by the overwhelming majority of people in the first place?
And you were only in a position to "complain" about Social Services after being brought to their attention in the first place.
They don't go randomly knocking on doors hoping to find someone they can make a case against.

I feel like I disclosed a but too much and don't mean to derail. I was just trying to give the other side to the story re SS. Apologies to the OP!

OP, I hope you come back. If you have had meetings with SS and the nurses etc, can you not ask for transcripts, or where you not given some kind of report stating all their concerns? If you really do feel that they aren't being clear verbally, try to get something down on paper from them. That will be more useful to your solicitor if you decide you want/need one.

Battle I do think it's hard to believe if you haven't seen it with your own eyes. However, some people tend to throw insults about rather than discuss it sensibly, don't they?

iamgrey have you actually read any of my posts with other cases in? So what if you get brought to the SS attention - it doesn't mean that it's true or founded. One of the only institutions that can go off hear say and no evidence.

And yes, I can see what I said probably wouldn't be said by the majority, but there was a reason why I said it, she didn't know me and instead of reading my file and speaking to my normal GP she took it upon herself to start a chain of events off. Thank fuck my long term doctor intervened and I was able to go in a basically Straighten it out.

One over zealous professional can cause a whole lot of trouble

Bubba - 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

So what if you get brought to the SS attention - it doesn't mean that it's true or founded. One of the only institutions that can go off hear say and no evidence

If its untrue and unfounded SS will be the first to say so, since signing off on it and getting that case of their desk so they can attend to the other 30 that are screaming for attention is the best outcome for them.
There is nothing in it for SW to carry on with cases that don't need them. It doesn't make any sense to do so, for anyone.

It's funny that those who insist they were unfairly hounded by SS can't provide any reason why they would be.

Pasta, Is that laughter that my kids and other kids suffered or something else? Please explain?

bubba save your breath. Keyboard warriors

WHY would SS want to take children from homes unnecessarily?

It worries me that anyone is condemning parents on a parenting site and then using "there's no smoke without fire" as a justification, bubba.

It's not a supportive sentiment for a support thread.

It's not a very helpful analysis of child protection policy and systems across 418 distinct local authority areas, either.