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So worried about supervised contact court order

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lollipop7 · 22/10/2017 00:56

I’m posting for one advice as I a, getting yes,f really worried about this.

Basically finding of fact ensuring for D V has been ordered by the court. There are allegations now being seriously investigated by the police.
My ex has been awarded supervised contact once a fortnight. The supervisory element of the role is that it is his parents who will supervise him NOT a contact centre.

Before I explain why this worries me greatly for a number of reasons, I am pains to point out I don’t have a problem with his parents seeing them (unlike their bullying abusive father) it is that they are not capable or competent in undertaking this responsibility. I feel it should be in a Contact Centre for their Benefit as much as my children’s.

-They are scared of their son and will do whatever he tells them. They believe all the poisonous lies told about my mental health which was struck off as a concern in court this week. It was all made up by him.

  • They are not physically or emotionally able to attend to the children’s needs. They can’t do much and are really remiss with health and safety. My children are young but fast and really strong and stubborn. I am terrified there will be an awful accident.
  • Prior to my leaving their son they had seen the children twice once in February and once in May. Our youngest child in particular doesn’t really know them at all and cries whenever left with them for a few seconds.
  • They will let him do what he wants with the children. One of y bug issues of concern is their father is careless and reckless and negligent with things like car seats, hydration, appropriate clothing, feeding them, letting them roam. (They are 3 and 1 years of age)

How can I make my concerns known. There has been no explanation by the court of their serious responsibility and undertaking. They have had no Safeguarding or competence checks whereas me and my parents have been scrutinised and had to jump through hoops. They could be anyone.

I would be much more comfortable with a contact centre.

This is about keeping my children safe around people who I know are not wake to attend to their needs.
CAFCASS don’t seem remotely bothered. I am at my wits end terrified that something will happen.

What can I do? Can I apply for a variation on the order stating my concerns?
Is it suicide to call CAFCASS?

I feel as though I am being ignored

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wejammin · 22/10/2017 11:37

Hang on, sorry, you weren't even in court to agree the contact? I must have missed that.

The judge really cannot agree interim contact without agreement between the parties prior to a finding of fact. Unless your barrister said you agreed, in which case you need to take it up with them. Do you have a note of how the hearing went? I would ask for counsel's note of hearing. Something is not quite right here.

lollipop7 · 22/10/2017 12:13

My
Barrister came back in and said that was what the judge had said. He said it was probably the best we could hope for. I just said I wanted a contact centre he just repeated himself.
I felt totally pressurised as I was so unwell.
Furthermore there was no consideration of the email from the police stating they were forming an investigation plan and coming to collect the evidence.
There was non discussion around PD 12(j) at all as far as I am aware.

I want to change the nature of the supervision to a contact centre as I believe it is in my children's best interests. I have asked his parents for help time and time again with his behaviour, they ignored me. I have texts from them where she described me as mentall ill. They never see the grandchildren. They have ignored my offer for them to have Skype contact and emails, have sent them photos they are not replied or enquired as to how they are. In short not only are they physically and emotionally incapable of supervising I don't trust them.

How is any of this right?
I intend to ask SS tomorrow if they can't help to raise concerns re the safeguarding.
Is it a bad idea to ask CAFCASS how they have discharged their duty of care as per risk assessment and their own safeguarding framework re safe contact?

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Giverortakeafew · 22/10/2017 20:41

Best of luck with the SD tomorrow. Lay it on thick. I would ask CAFCASS to tell you what has gone on.

You legal team don't seem to be fighting your corner terribly well, unless I am missing something here. Are you paying them or is it legal aid? I would badger them. Your solicitor should have cover arranged if on leave.

Do you have any mutual friends with you ex that you trust and could go along?

If your social worker fobs you off, you can make an official complaint that they turned their back in children at risk of harm.

lollipop7 · 22/10/2017 22:25

Thanks
For your reply.
I've got some stuff ready to discuss.

Can but hope!

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bluejelly · 23/10/2017 16:59

Best of luck lollipop. What ever happens your dc have a great advocate in their mother.

HonestOtter · 24/10/2017 14:17

lollipop7 Very similar situation here. How are you getting on?

lollipop7 · 24/10/2017 23:47

@HonestOtter not great. I’ll hopefully be back with more of an update tomorrow and if any success shall share my experience.
Sorry you’re in a similar boat, it’s totally shit isn’t it.
💐

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