Tracking antisemitism 2

[EllaDisenchanted]

continuing on from the last thread which morphed from a discussion about antisemitism to tracking it globally.

@comedycook @humdingerydoo@stomachamelon @25milesfromhome @sharonellis @beretinparis @diamond82 @christmasmantlestatue @quantumbutterfly @edithstourton @lucywestenra
@sewingaddict @ErroltheSwampDragon @knitnerd90

I’ve probably missed people out

to start off with something positive - this was a few yeshiva students response to antisemitism ❤️🕎

https://x.com/lily4liberty/status/2001122286204805189?s=46
“Three Jewish college students from NJ were dancing at Denver International Airport. They said they were motivated to do this after the mass shooting in Australia: “We will not be scared or give in to the darkness, we will only add more and more light.” Happy Hanukkah!”

they’re playing my favourite zusha chanuka song, and one of them looks like DHs nephew who lives in America! Had to do a double take and check it wasn’t him!😆

Thank you for posting this. I find it really heartwarming to read posts like this because in "real life" I quite literally have not found a single person who seems to feel this way - who has formerly identified as quite left wing but is disgusted with what's happening.

It's like living in some alternate timeline where all the people I shared similar values with are dismissing the experiences and genuine fear of one specific minority. I've got friends posting conspiracy theories on social media that - if said about any other minority - would make them come across as very 'far right'.

I get the horseshoe theory and all that but it doesn't seem to be an extreme few. Maybe it's the circles I run in but it's put me off even trying to make new friends because at this point I'd be simply astounded if they actually voiced even the tiniest support for Jews without "context" or "but".

I'm so sorry you've had this experience.

If it's helpful, our whole family feels the same as I do, including our university aged kids. They've resigned their Labour party membership and list friends groups for standing up to this.

Everyone in our family has talked a few people round, explaining antisemitism and the effect its had on Jewish people and some were able to see things differently.

We've also sadly cut off several friends who've engaged in this anti-jewish social contagion as some people are so entrenched in it that they can't listen to reason.

Unfortunately I think there's a minority of aggressive activist types who are so absolutely sure of their own virtue that they just cannot conceive that this behaviour is creating pain and safety risks for innocent Jewish people.

Then there's a bunch who are too cowardly to put their head above the parapet. The sane happened with the trans contagion and many were just too scared to speak up.

I understand what were witnessing is absolutely horrible and it must be terrifying for you, but I do genuinely believe it will be tackled. It will Unfortunately take time.

The government have been utterly useless. I am so angry at them, as they could have set a boundary years ago on this and they chose not to.

We will do all we can to support our Jewish friends and neighbours, and we really hope you know you're not alone.

@ErroltheSwampDragon Yes, it’s all very tiring. I completely agree. There’s been some discussion on the “Mumsnet could do better” thread about the amount of anti-Jewish hatred being posted on here and the lack of action taken over it. Unfortunately, it doesn’t sound very hopeful.
I haven’t seen the feminism thread and honestly I dread to think what’s being said on there.
@CircleSquared I completely agree with you, it really does feel as though the world has turned upside down. I’m sorry to hear about your friends, it’s incredibly hard. I hope you still have people around you that you can lean on, even if they don’t fully understand the current climate for Jews.
I had a good friend distance themselves from me after October 7th without even knowing my views on Israel. At the time I was dealing with so many emotions that I almost went numb to it, but looking back now, I think I’m only just starting to process what happened. There are also quite a few people I’ve chosen to distance myself from since then too.

This is awful, poor guy was visiting from Israel and gets beaten up by anti-semites in London.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1527z272lyo

NYT has published an article with unverified claims that Israel trains dogs to sexually assault Palestinian prisoners, timed to overlap with the report on Hamas' sexual violence on 7 Oct.

This has truly blown my mind. It's from a statement by the British Museum with regards to a Jewish Culture Month event that has had to be postponed...

www.britishmuseum.org/about-us/press/press-releases/statement-jewish-culture-month-event

"In recent days, we were informed that a significant proportion of registered attendees were individuals intending to deliberately disrupt the event, preventing others from participating in good faith and undermining the purpose of the programme."

This was meant to be an event celebrating Jewish culture. And it's being disrupted by antisemites. Not people opposed to Israeli politics - purely antisemites. So the event is postponed rather than the antisemites being dealt with. Absolutely horrendous that they get away with this absolute bullshit even when their masks have fully slipped.

😡

I’ve just watched a video of someone blaming Israel for the unusual heatwave in the UK. I guess they must have fixed it with their Jewish space lasers.

Oh oh! I didn’t know I had that. I’m going to fix the weather now (I’m in Scotland. It’s miserable out today)

Ok I'll own up...it's been me controlling the weather. It's kept me pretty busy between my ordinary office job, the school run and doing my weekly shop.

well please send some sun my way. K? Cool (secret Jewish handshake)

No offence, but you're doing a shit job of it at the moment 😏 I think you need to give someone else a go.

Meh they probably send all the sun to Israel and leave none for the rest of us! 😂

The CITME board is an absolute disgrace and it reflects badly on MN that they take a purely reactive not proactive stance to the blatant antisemitism often expressed on there.

By which I mean they delete antisemitic or attacking posts (sometimes) but do nothing to police the boards themselves and very rarely intervene even when arguments get very nasty and personal.

Sorry, I feel like I'm being dim here, but what is the CITME board, please?

You're so lucky you don't know it.

It's the Mumsnet board called Conflict in the Middle East.

Thanks.

No problem and you weren't being dim at all, I should have called it by its full name.

So in the UK Starmer has resigned. In his resignation speech he declared that he’d “ripped out the poison of antisemitism” in the Labour Party.
Are you going to tell him, or should I?

I don't think I'll ever forget the feeling when he gave Hamas what they wanted (recognising Palestine) while there were still hostages in Gaza.

It showed he didn't care and wasn't a serious politician.

No idea what Burnham will be like (assuming he gets in) but I don't have high hopes.

Neither do I. Do any Manchester-based Jewish people on this board have any insights about Burnham’s record in this area?

Prada’s done a campaign with an artist called Saint Levant. In the campaign he’s wearing a necklace in the shape of the Israel map and it seems to be representing it as palestine. He celebrated the Amsterdam Pogrom too. The only bit I’m surprised about is that it’s on an official Prada ad which seems outrageous. But obviously it’s now normal.

I had a Google for the ad and came across it mentioned on Facebook. Over 2,000 comments and I didn't see any that supported Israel. So depressing.

On the “positive” side, even my omni-causal, far left wing, self-hating Jewish friend has to admit how horribly anti-Semitic that artist is and is boycotting Prada (gotta love a good boycott)

That did make me laugh, they do love a boycott 😂
I must admit I threw the remainder of my favourite Prada perfume down the sink in anger and now I realise what a waste of money that was. But like your friend I won’t be purchasing anything with Prada on the label (no big loss to them unfortunately).