Mumsnet is getting worse

[LondonMummer]

Seriously. Is it the same few people just name changing or is it really this toxic in the UK? There is so much poisonous Jewish hatred on here. I'm not talking hatred of Israel, just vile antisemitism on so many posts now.

I truly think I have to step away before I lose faith in humanity. Why does MN seem to attract so many hateful posters? Maybe it's the anonymity.

I can't keep calling it out. Im exhausted and actually deeply disturbed by it now.

I am speechless that people are posting links from Electronic Intifada. Do they know what an intifada is? Do they think its some sort of jolly, lefty protest?

Intifada is a violent uprising. My husband lived through the second one as a child in Jerusalem. He went through some stuff he won't even talk about.

The fact that a load of supposedly middle-class women on Mumsnet are wittingly or unwittingly calling for another one, presumably in our country/continent, is quite staggering. I told my DH and he made a sucking noise through his teeth which I've never heard him do before 😞

@PurpleChrayne It is terrifying.

Oh and I got a week's ban for comparing an OP to the "loonies" who take over our local pensioners' protest every Friday to wave their flags! I didn't even say the poster WAS a loony, just that she was LIKE one 😆

Semantics, eh?

@PurpleChrayne “Intifada is resistance!” is a catchy little phrase and that’s literally all they know about it.

Hi all. I'm not Jewish but married "in"/my husband married out although we are both atheists. I hope I can join you here to show my love and support.

I've found the boards very hard in the last few weeks and the thread about Kfir has really upset me because apparently we're not allowed to say we feel a particular affinity to one child. Not even a woman who's own children are half Israeli.
Kfir looks very like my son as a baby in part because of the very ginger hair. My children are so proud of their Jewishness (ok not halachially but it's a very big part of my daughters identity in particular) and at the moment I don't feel totally safe for them to declare this outside of people who already know this about them. I don't feel totally comfortable painting our living room windows with a Hanukkiah as we do each year because we don't like in a Jewish area and we have only lived here 10 months and I don't know how other people might react.

I always think of a song called " Palestinians Are Not the Same Thing as the Rebel Alliance, Jackass", by a musician called Adam Goren/Atom and his Package. It's 20 years old but still very accurate.

@HobnobsChoice you are absolutely 100% welcome here! Great to "meet" you. This part of Mumsnet has been such a comfort for me, and I hope it will be for you.

I have just found this forum on mumsnet. I am a UK Christian. I love history and i know what i am seeing on MN and other social media re these issues. I am calling it out. I don't get much debate from anti semites because they overwhelmingly lack even a basic understanding of history. When on SM it may not feel like it but there is more support and understanding for Israeli's and Jewish people than i think you realise. Its all our duty and responsibility to play a part in never again.

👋🏻waves at Alicemeg, !nice to meet you properly, I've had too many incarnations on here to list them all!

Also great to see more allies on these threads - including non - Jewish atheists/humanists/feminists like me.

alcemeg even ... thank you autocorrect.

I've had similar. Being criminalized on MN is a new and disturbing experience. It does worry me that this "taking down" is so prompt and systematic. Almost as though...

If anyone here has been on the FWR board in the last few years they will have experienced their posts being zapped and their posts being reported within seconds. It's very unsettling

As a veteran of many a dust-up on MN (@Trulywonderful can verify!) tips are:

Personal attacks are not allowed, so you can't say 'you are an idiot for thinking this'. You can however describe behaviour 'it would be idiotic to think x'

Don't make disparaging remarks about people's mental health or 'diagnose' them with anything

Don't talk about specific posters or posts on other threads

This thread is open to all even though the section is hidden, so assume it is being read by people you don't like

Don't post personal stuff that would be upsetting if it were used against you

If posting is upsetting you or affecting your mental health, walk away. In the end, what they're posting isn't your responsibility and you don't have to respond, in fact if you're upset, it's probably better if you don't

Don't start a thread unless you're feeling particularly robust, you can't control how it will go

@HobnobsChoice that's a section I would like to be involved with but I feel like my knowledge is lacking.

Wise words from @noblegiraffe thank you 😍

Again, sending friendship, empathy and support to you all. There are many of us who really care, please know that ❤️

Seconded.

Welcome @HobnobsChoice I am the same as your daughter (well, several decades older, I imagine!) with a (late) Jewish atheist dad and non-Jewish mum. In the past I have been encouraging of my children being open about that part of their identity, eg I gave my daughter a mezuzah that had belonged to my dad to take into school for a relevant topic. I definitely wouldn't do that now for fear of comments/ worse, especially now that they are both out of primary school. So I completely understand your comments. The antisemitism that has reared its head in the past couple of months has really shaken me.

I don't post much but read every post on here - it feels like such a safe haven yes even with all you troublemakers from the ME boards snooping.

No idea who you are

😁

You were infuriating back then too...

Must have been

I mean you remembered me years later as Truly from covid 😂

I do have a natural charm about me. It works great at school though. The students hate debating with me. So just behave instead. Anything is better than getting a lecture about their behaviour from Miss😂

Just incase anyone is wondering the Giraffe and I were in disagreement about when schools should reopen during covid

Though we did agree in general about covid tests on return to school etc

That is how I remember it anyway

Plus there was a mob of users that campaigned to get Giraffe kicked off mumsnet. She has taken a lot of flake over the years. So knows how to handle it on this platform

You are so stoked I remember you

I was literally MN most hated for about a year, despite being totally right . Got called every name under the sun, every insult they could come up with, hated kids, shit teacher etc etc. I was often asked how I coped with it all.

Which brings me to my next tip for posting on contentious topics on MN: Do not give a shit about what idiots think of you. Their opinion of you is utterly worthless, particularly as they don't know you at all. And some of them won't be posting in good faith anyway, but merely seeking to wind you up. Don't give them the satisfaction.

COVID was stressful enough without MN, I'm not sure how you survived!

And as a parent of a then 5 month old and 4 year old who started reception in 2020 I would've sided with whoever wanted schools to open sooner 🤪

We probably shouldn't go there again 😂