IVF April 2023

[charja100]

Hi all,

I'm about to start my first IVF ICSI cycle. I expect to start my stims next week and all being well will have a fresh transfer in April.

Looking for buddies to come on this journey with me.

@charja100 I'm so sorry you've had a negative result. I agree it's easier to build yourself up to the OTD rather than have that one giant moment with all the pressure! I've previously read online that some women don't test positive until 10DP5DT and some a bit later. This isn't game over but I know that won't help and I understand how you're feeling as the whole process is such a crappy rollercoaster. Could you go to the christening part but not attend the after party? You've got enough on your plate mentally and your best friend will understand if you need to shoot off early.

@MRSLMF I'm waiting for AF any day this weekend/early next week 😬 feeling quite triggered by the transfer as it always ends in heartbreak!

@Flowerlover010 how are you today and whats been going on? I'm sorry you must be feeling so anxious, I wish we could say something to make it better for you 😔

@Carly05 it's been a while! I hope you've had some time to mentally recover. Wishing you all the luck for round no3 🤞🏼

@charja100 it is early but I understand the disappointment totally.

Avoid the christening. Look after yourself as your number one priority xx

@VioletCookie any sign of AF yet? Hope its on them for you xx
@charja100 did you decide on what you will do about the christening?
I've had day 3 embryo update today....x4 average quality and x4 poor quality. Of the poor quality ones 2 are expected to stop dividing as they've only got to 2 cells so far the other poor quality ones are at 4 cells.
They're calling me 8.30 am Monday with embryo update with transfer scheduled for 11am. We need to decide whether to do a single or a double....obviously will depend somewhat on grading but in general does anyone have any thoughts? I'm really keen for a double as in my head there's a 50% chance one of them will be chromosomally normal and stick?
Any advice/thoughts greatly appreciated xxx

@MRSLMF thank you for your update xx it's a tricky one xx

At one point many moons ago we thought we would be in your position.

One of the things we discussed was along the lines of " could we afford it / manage if best case scenario we had twins".

Have the drs given you any advice xx

@CR7 thank you that's a really good point, financially I think we would be OK. In terms of managing real life with twins that would be difficult as my husband is in the army and spends time away from home....feeding 2 newborns by myself might get a little stressful but then I think the joy of having a family would override that stress?! Maybe I'm being very nieve!
I mean we could have a big drop off rate between now and Monday! Xxx

Bring on Monday and hopefully lots of good news xx

@MRSLMF best of luck for Monday! I think its a good point about finances. People I know that have has twins haven't known any different so you would just get on with it I guess?!

@Flowerlover010 thank you. It's so so hard. How are you feeling today? Is the pain any better? I'm so hopeful that you get some good news or answers. Not knowing is so hard. Will be thinking of you tomorrow. Let us know how it goes if you're feeling up to it.

Thank you @Carly05 . I hope you're feeling better now. I'm glad you took the time you needed. Space to decompress is important. It's such a tough journey. Congratulations on moving forward with you third round. Hoping third times the charm for you 🙏🏼

Thanks @VioletCookie your message really helped me yesterday. Sorry I didn't have the strength to reply until now.

@MRSLMF yes we decided we're going to go to the christening but we won't stay long at the after party. Just enough time to pay our respects and then politely make an exit.

Thank you @CR7

Your predicament is challenging. I agree with @CR7 and you need to think about whether you'd be prepared for twins. I'd probably wait for the grading and make my decision on the day dependent on that. There's also the challenge of if your "environment" is off this cycle you could risk losing both. It's so difficult to ever know what the right thing is to do. Everything crossed for wonderful result on Monday!

@charja100 how are you feeling today? Its so hard to keep occupied when it's all you can think about. I hope tomorrow is OK for you and your partner.

@MRSLMF no sign of AF, hope it comes soon! Just need to get started, our last transfer was Feb and I feel like we need to get going again. Although I'm also terrified! Regarding 1 or 2 embryos, I'd personally go for 2 but my partner keeps saying 1 so we've stuck to that. If you had twins you'd find a way to make it work! Best of luck for Monday, everything crossed for your embabies 🤞🏼

I'm having a bit of a wobble today. Long stroy short my bestie is 7 months pregnant and in hospital, everything is fine but she's been having checks and they've asked her to stay in. I need to visit her as she's bored and I know this sounds selfish but I'm really scared to be in the maternity ward. She said she's sharing a ward with women being induced and everyone is having babies, I want to see her and make sure she's OK but I'm also worried I'll get triggered and won't be able to handle it. I'm not really sure what to do, I really want to see her but I'm scared!

@MRSLMF

Just seen another thread discussing this. Copying a posting someone's response who went through it xx

We had a double transfer back in February with top grade embryos (A's). Apparently transferring 2 doesn't increase your chances of twins but the chance of having a pregnancy. It failed. Regardless of grades, there's no guarantee of a pregnancy.

Between each transfer the wait time has been 2/3 months apart from the last which was 4 months as I waited 8 weeks for blood results to come back. My clinic like to have a bleed between transfers but this might vary between clinics.

Only you know what's right for you. From personal experience, if I had 2 embryos over I wouldn't transfer both again. Not from fear of twins but the fear that my body wasn't ready for that particular round and I would lose both in one transfer (which I did). Each round is trial and error so can vary hugely. I've now been given additional meds and my body appears to have reacted better this transfer, I got my BFP this week :)

Hi ladies just catching up, hope you're all doing ok at your different stages of the journey.

@charja100 sorry to hear you feel it's not worked out this time. It is early but that's no help when you feel it's not happening. Have you tested again?

How are you doing @Flowerlover010? Thinking about you today and hoping you have good news or at least some definitive news as the waiting is torture.

@MRSLMF I have asked a lot about double embryo transfer as I've been told so many conflicting things. The best way it was described to me is that it's not increasing your chances of success overall but that you're "getting through the embryos quicker" which sounds awful but I guess they mean you are speeding up the process to get to the end result quicker, whatever that may be, success or not. At my age (40) with no PGTA testing I would personally go for two and risk twins as I think the chances of both being successful are quite low 🤷🏻‍♀️ but only you can decide. @charja100 also has a point about potentially losing two so I guess it also depends on whether you think there may be anything else getting in the way. With PGTA testing I would probably only transfer one normal embryo at a time.

@April623 you're absolutely right. I had pgta and the drs wouldn't consider a double transfer x

@charja100 @April623 so update from me. The last couple days i had the pain shift to my right side, went down my bum and down my leg too. Had me fully convinced at this point it was ectopic and was shitting myself. Had scan this morning and thank god its not ectopic, a huge relief and now i dont have to worry about my tubes bursting or having an emergency op. I asked her what could be causing all this cramping and pain and she literally said, i dont know. However my 2nd worry came through that it was too early to tell what is happening, at this point they measure me at 5 weeks which isnt impossible when i study my dates but it is pushing it. I am not confident whatsoever and have been in this exact position before with my 1st MC. They always make u wait 2 weeks to confirm a diagnosis of MC. I am so bloody anxious and they could see that, that they agreed to scan me in a week but still wont diagnose for 2 weeks. I need to do this because i asked her if progesterone can delay a MC and she said yes it can. Therefore i may still not know if im definitely MC or not, but in my eyes if absolutely nothing has happened in a week thats my cue to stop progesterone and then the MC MAY happen naturally if im lucky! If not, its another operation. I know i sound so negative but I cant help it, ive been here before and u know when u just know? Yeah thats where im at.

@Flowerlover010 I'm so sorry you're in this position it sounds so so stressful. Have you had a blood test or is it worth getting one?
I don't know tons about this as my clinic never offered a blood test and I know you haven't done IVF this time, but would the results tell you more perhaps? Thinking of you x

@CR7 Sorry as my memory is awful but is it you that did duo stim abroad? As I think we've decided on that for our next round x

@charja100 im so sorry if this one hasnt worked out. I hope it just comes through later but if not keep strong and keep going. Its such a tough long journey.

@MRSLMF my friend only had 2 blasts, one she was told is good quality the other not so good, she put both in and they both workee! Healthy babies. It is a gamble but you will never know what the right answer is. So hard.

@VioletCookie feel so sorry for you to be in that position. Im not sure what id do. Hope your friend is all ok though. Can u make it a quick visit? And say you've got to get somewhere?

U.K. in Manchester with CARE xx

Thanks everyone, my husband is thinking along the lines of he doesn't want to use 2 embryos up in one go but I'm swayed towards a double transfer just because the statistics seem to favour it in terms of live birth rate! I suppose we shall see where we are at in the morning with our little embryos 💕. I read that PGT testing at day 3 isn't always reliable as a percentage of aneuploid embryos can "self correct" by day 5 if left alone so essentially your losing an embryo that may well actually be viable?!
But after all my reading this weekend I've come to the conclusion that maybe its all just about luck!
@Flowerlover010 I'm so sorry you are having such a hard time and that its such a long drawn out process, I've no words really to help you xxx

@MRSLMF I wasn't aware that clinics will carry out pgta at any day other than day 5. In the past yes but common practice now is day 5 only xx

Ahh that would make sense, we were offered it yesterday (day 3) but we chose not to. Maybe they will ask again tomorrow (day 5) xx

@VioletCookie thank you. Today was quite nice in the end. I had a moment at one point but I just took myself away for a moment to breathe. We ended up staying till almost the end.
That's so tricky @VioletCookie I completely understand how that could be such a triggering environment for you. How are you feeling today now you've had the night to think about it? Could you just pop in to see her and not hang around too long? And then FaceTime and text to keep her occupied at other points in time, but where you can be in an environment that isn't triggering for you.

@Flowerlover010 that's great news it's not ectopic. There must be some relief even though you still have time to wait for more certainty. This journey is so trying, take the time you need to to process. I don't think you sound negative, I think you're trying to be realistic so you can prepare emotionally, and we need to do that sometimes to save the hurt. I completely understand it's hard to be too hopeful at this point, but don't give up yet. Everything could be fine.

@MRSLMF obvs not a dr but you did the right thing saying no xx

@VioletCookie so so hard. Could you maybe "have a cold" and send someone in with some nice treats for her? Xx

@CR7 What was your protocol on duo stim? I would be on the elonva protocol which I understand to be one injection/week during stims. Sounds appealing! But keen to learn more about it/hear from others who have done it x

Glad you got on ok today @charja100 🙂

Not this, it doesn't ring a bell x

I was on stims. Egg retrieval,
Five day break and back on stims xx