IVF warriors - the journey continues 2

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@Honeybunie have you got a date for your next consultation? I have been thinking of you

Hello ladies
Happy new year to all of you! I also hope it’ll be a good year for all of us!! 🤞🤞🤞 Been meaning to message for ages but I just haven’t had the time yet. We came back from Germany on 29 December. And we had two couples staying with us for a few days over new years. And been away for work Thursday till yesterday. I think it’s the first time OH and I have been home alone since mid October 😂 we’re both so happy about that lol.
I’ve had a bit of a tough time over Christmas tbh. I had a lot of distractions but that also meant I haven’t had any time to process and get over the last failed transfer. I’ve been carrying a sadness around with me and I could break into tears within seconds. Feel a bit emotionally unhinged. And what made it extra difficult is that I’ve heard about at least 5 pregnancies since my negative test. On Boxing Day I heard that my cousin who I really don’t like is having her second. And I just found out two of my best friends are pregnant. Of course I’m happy for them but I’m not in a good place at the moment and it just makes me sad. It just feels like a slap in the face every time I hear someone is pregnant. Just a constant reminder that I can’t have the same. And I also feel like I’m being left behind. If they all have babies, I feel like avoiding them to protect myself. But then I’ll probs also lose them anyway for the next decade or two as they’ll be busy with their kids and it won’t be the same anymore. So yeah not in a good place at the moment.
I’ve not had a call from the clinic yet but I also didn’t expect a call that soon. I’m in no rush at the moment anyway tbh. I’m feeling really fed up with the ivf and meds at the moment. I feel like I need a mental break from it all. Been on meds from end of October till Christmas so I think it’s taken its toll. So in no rush to start again. I don’t think the last embryo from this round will be any better so whatever we will do will be for nothing anyway. I was therefore also thinking to just try a natural cycle FET with the next. I’ll suggest that to the consultant whenever we have our next appointment.
@Decaffe I read your last message and it really resonated with me. I’m totally on the same page! How did your consultation go? Did he agree to a natural cycle? good for you for deciding to enjoy Christmas this time and to postpone the transfer a bit. I feel for you with the comments you got over Christmas. It’s the last thing you need. They just don’t realise what they’re saying. And no I’m not excusing them. It’s just not okay. We’re going through enough emotionally so a bit of sensitivity isn’t too much to ask for I don’t think. What is it with your thyroid? Are the levels not right?
@seekingbabyk how are you? When are things going to kick off for you?
@KLM25 how’re you? How did the appointment with the midwife go?
xx

Hi @Honeybunie and @Decaffe - sorry I have responded sooner we are both wiped out with this cold/flu going round!

Bloody MILs @Decaffe !! No one knows about our ivf journey for exactly that reason. Even though at times I've wondered about sharing but honestly I'm so glad we kept it to ourselves - even well meaning family asking questions can be triggering can't it. Was it you who also had 2 4BC blasts in the freezer? Do you think you'll be going for it this month? Or do you feel like you still need some time?

Awww @Honeybunie I can only imagine. Your hormones are probably still all over the place too and then the stress of Christmas on top of a failed transfer it's a lot to deal with. Just give yourself some time. We have a phone call with the consultant on Wednesday to discuss transferring. I'd love to transfer two if he'll let me but he was against it last time. I think with ours it's estrogen from CD1 and then progesterone pessaries a few days before transfer but I'll confirm after our meeting. Is that a natural FET? Just give yourself some time if that's what you need. It's so overwhelming the whole process especially with a lot of meds thrown in. It might be in March/April you're really up for trying again so just go with your gut x

Hi @Honeybunie @seekingbabyk and @Decaffe, a very Happy New Year to all of you. Sorry to hear that Christmas has been up and down, it’s such a tricky time and it’s made worse by awkward questions and comments. It’s a lot to have to go through.

@Honeybunie I’m really sorry to hear about how you’re feeling, it’s hardly surprising, you’ve not had time to process it. Hopefully now you’ve got a bit of space and the house to yourselves, you’ll start feeling a bit brighter and more like making a new plan. Definitely good to have a break, those meds definitely take their toll.
I’m fine, things are moving along and I’ve had my 12 week NHS scan yesterday. We had the NIPT testing privately and to our relief it came back as the lowest risk. That felt like a big milestone. My only slight niggle now is that I can’t seem to get an answer on whether I can stop taking the Clexane. The clinic have said to ask the NHS consultant, (as my previous clinic did), but I hadn’t heard about an appt and my phone calls just kept ringing out. Anyway I had a frustrating conversation with a midwife ystdy who said I might not see a consultant until 20 weeks and I needed to get back in touch with the clinic as they had prescribed it. I just feel a little bit like I’ve fallen through the cracks and I might have to make my own decision.
I got home to discover that they’ve given me an NHS consultants appt in a month's time, so that’s at least some progress. I’m going to email the clinic again. I think I just feel more nervous about stopping it as no-one seems to want to give me a straight answer, so I feel like they don’t really know!
It’s a minor problem in the great scheme of things, I know that. I think I’m just still terrified of things going wrong.

@seekingbabyk and @Decaffe, hope your consultants appointments go well and you get some positive news x

Morning ladies @KLM25 @Decaffe @Honeybunie

Just had our consultant call. Went really well we are going to transfer both blasts as they are average grade he actually suggested that.

He's going to put me on mild dose aspirin, 8-10 days of estrogen and 5 days of progesterone pessaries. He is swapping me to cyclogest as the last one's irritated me a bit. He said to take vitamin d and folic acid and that's about it.

Is that a natural cycle? My understanding of all of this is quite limited! I just tend to do what they tell me to 🙈

Anyway I'm feeling pretty good after speaking to him and just going to see what happens. If it doesn't work we will then think about the next steps. After house renovation, puppy, 3 rounds in the last year im kinda of feeling like let's just leave it to fate now. I'm worn out and tired and over the medication so we will see what happens and maybe it's not meant to be for us and we're meant to be world travellers and the cool aunt and uncle 😂

Heya :)
@seekingbabyk oh I hope you are feeling better by today! everybody seems to be ill these days. I've been spared so far touch wood. OH has a chest infection though, but mainly down to living with my parents cats for too long bless him. wow it is quite amazing that you haven't told anyone about the IVF. I don't think I could not share it, even though there is the danger of expectations and comments from others. good for you. oh that is amazing news that you can transfer the two!! i'm glad your consultant suggested the same anyway. I so wish we would have been able to transfer our two and have it over and done with. I just checked today what our last one was graded as and it's a 3CC. a slow starter that took until day 6 to get to stage 3 and a grading of CC. it probably has a chance of 1% to make it.. even more reason to ask for a natural cycle next time, as it will probably be a long shot anyway. a natural cycle is without any medication. you start doing clearblue ovulation tests every day with the start of your cycle, or a few days in, can't remember exactly, and then when the test tell you you are ovulating they determine the transfer day from there. so you only have to come in for one lining scan and then for the transfer. what you are having my clinic calls a short medicated FET cycle.
Yeah my clinic still hasn't rung. so god knows when i get my consultation. if i manage to have one by mid february, maybe we'd manage to transfer with my natural cycle before Easter. it will also be intersting to see when my period comes back. i think this cycle will be irregular after being on meds for such a long time. been checking my morning temp and it's not what it would normally be around this time of my cycle. we'll see. but I'm not going to kill myself over it this time. fed up planning my life around it and it doesn't happen anyway. so if we can't fit it in before easter then that's okay. i decided to just live a little and not plan things around the ivf, so the ivf has to fit around my life now. and like you said.. if it's not meant to be then so be it. We'll go travel the world instead.
for Easter we'll go home to my parents again, and then I'll be working in Singapore again mid April, so i have booked a holiday to Thailand between Germany and Singapore. one big trip for us so something to look forward to. also got a wedding where I'm a bridesmaid this summer yay and we've just booked a hen do trip to corfu. so loads coming up and the ivf has to wait.
what is the aspirin for in your case @seekingbabyk ? glad you'r feeling good after speaking to your consultant.

@KLM25 good to hear from you. i was starting to get worried. glad you're past 12 weeks, congratulations, that's amazing. what does nipt stand for? and what was the clexane for again? that does sounds worrying and confusing that nobody seems to have got a definitive answer for when to stop it. surely you can't be the first ivf pregnancy on clexane? that's a bit odd. and why does the clinic not know? i don't understand. I'd be worried too.
yeah we're so enjoying being home atm. i haven't left the house much and i have no intention to do so haha. it was quite funny in hindsight, we were going to go for a beach walk on sunday as the weather ws so nice and as we drove over i realised i would have rather stayed at home and pottered around the house as i've not been home for so long. so i started crying out of nowhere in the car, so OH drove me back home hahaha! 😂totally unhinged atm lol. i'll also have to go and work at work again from monday to wednesday the next five weeks, which is 3h away, so have to stay over. so I'm making the most of being at home right now. busy time of the year and before i know it it'll be easter.. time just flies x

Happy new year ladies! I’m sorry I haven’t kept up to date on this thread. I wanted to send you all my love and hope you’re doing well xx

@Spin101 and a very happy new year to you too!

@Honeybunie - Wow you have had quite a busy Christmas and new year by the sounds of it! I’m so sorry you’re feeling fed up with it all, I completely know how this feels. And it’s all so cold and dreary right now too which doesn’t help. I think a natural cycle in a couple of months sounds like it could be the way forward. Everything seems brighter in the spring.
All my frozen ones are day six embryos by the way and my consultant wasn’t at all phased by that. Apparently it just means they’re more likely to be girls 🩷 I think your travel plans sound amazing!

@seekingbabyk - nearly right! 😊 I have a 5BC, 4BC and a 5CC in the freezer. Really pleased for you that you’ll be able to transfer two this time. I haven’t heard of oestrogen being used in a natural cycle before? My consultant said my natural cycle would involve just scans before ovulation and then progesterone injections from ovulation (as I don’t absorb the pessaries). Do you know when your transfer will be?

@KLM25 25 - So glad to hear the 12 week scan went well! And that you have a consultant appointment coming up.

As for me, things have changed a little bit since I last posted. I had the phone call with my consultant and we were all set for a natural transfer in my February cycle, day 5 would have been around March 1st. However, to my complete astonishment, I got a positive on a cheapie on Wednesday at 10dpo. The tests do appear to be progressing but I don’t quite believe it. I got my GP to agree to do HCG bloods on Thursday, and they were repeated today, hopefully they will have doubled but I won’t get the result til Monday.

Thursday’s result came back at 27; the GP called and said it was really low and to prepare for a chemical pregnancy. But! I did some research and 27 seems fine for 11dpo, one paper said the median value was 25..?

I wondered if perhaps she just wasn’t used to seeing HCG results at such an early stage. Then again, I feel like I daren’t hope, and her comments have got to me a little bit so I am feeling a bit glum. But I am telling myself that whatever happens, I have never even got this far before, never even seen a second pink line, so surely this has to bode well for the future.

@Decaffe Oh wow that is absolutely astonishing! That would just be the best story ever if you successfully got pregnant naturally. I keep everything crossed for you for positive news tomorrow 🤞🤞🤞 it is very early I know and god knows what the hcg should be. It would’ve only just implanted and the hcg started to be produced so 27 sounds like a reasonable number to me for just a few days after implantation! Not very nice your gp said it might be a chemical straight away and make you feel glum. You are right as well that it is such an achievement to see a second line for the first time ever! I’ve never seen one to congratulations on that! :) you didn’t think you’d be in this position a week ago did you?! It’s quite something! Btw do you test always do pregnancy tests on a routine basis? 🤭
hehe I’d love to have a girl thanks for that info 😊🩷

@Spin101 happy new year to you too! I hope everything is going well with you!

I had a call from my clinic on Friday. We have our consultation on 15 February. The first dates she offered were 5 and 7 but I’ll be busy and in work those days. It’ll be with a consultant new to us too. They always change when you’re on nhs funding. Let’s see what he says and hopefully he suggests a natural cycle anyway

Wow that's amazing @Decaffe - keeping everything crossed it progresses. When will you have the second blood test results? Yes that would be an amazing story and make it all worth going through the operation for you!

@Honeybunie I asked about the aspirin he said there's some evidence to prove it has a higher success rate - he's quite a well respected consultant in the IVF world so I just go on what he says lol. You have an amazing year planned! I actually think stress is a huge factor in getting pregnant so it might be good to have your focus on enjoying life instead. If our transfer doesn't work we will definitely be having a trip somewhere!

My CD1 date is 24th jan and then they Saadi 8 days of estrogen tablets and then 5 days of progesterone so I'm guessing 5th feb perhaps?

@Decaffe

Just gone back to check and my hcg was 32.2 at equivalent of 12 dpo and I have a 5 month old now! That level is totally normal for that stage, it jut has to increase. When's your next hcg blood draw? Congratulations what an amazing thing to happen! Got everything crossed that progression is well xx

@Decaffe That is wonderful news and just goes to show you never know what’s round the corner ❤️😊 I’m so pleased for you. I know it’s a nervewracking time but there’s nothing to say that things won’t progress as they’re supposed to. Plus I completely agree with @Imisscoffee2021 about the hcg result and doctors not always knowing. When I had a third hcg test after I had that bleed, and sent it to my doctor at the actual fertility clinic ☺️, she said it might not be high enough… Everything I read online at the time contradicted that, and it turned out that it was absolutely fine, so I had some unnecessary worry over nothing. So if that’s a fertility doctor, then I’m sure your GP could easily have got it wrong too. I’m keeping everything crossed for your result tomorrow.
You might have seen this already, but there’s a website called betabase.info and it has all the average hcg values in there, that should reassure you too.

@Honeybunie I’m really glad to hear you had your call with the clinic and you’ve got a date for a consultation, that’ll be here in no time. It might be nice too, to speak to someone different, a fresh pair of eyes kind of thing. It sounds like you’ve got some amazing trips away this year too ☀️❤️ Lots to look forward to in dreary January ha ha.

NIPT is the blood test that tests for chromosomal problems, Downs, Edward’s, Patau etc. They actually do it in our NHS trust now, if the 12 week scan test results call for it, so we could maybe have waited for that. It was just that we had the NIPT test for our little boy, so we wanted to do the same again. I still have no answer about the Clexane, but I’ve stopped the Lubion and the pessaries now so that feels quite good. I just hope everything is still ok in there! I’m thinking about going for another scan but then worry if I might be having too many 🤦‍♀️
The Clexane is for blood clotting issues, but a lot of clinics prescribe it on a ‘just in case’ kind of basis, and I’ve no idea whether I have issues or not as I’ve never been tested for it. I’d like to think I don’t, but there’s still that element of doubt and wanting a professional to tell me what to do!

@seekingbabyk It sounds like your consultant call went really well, so that’s brilliant. I’ve never had any problems with Cyclogest so hopefully it’ll be the same for you.

@Spin101 A very Happy New Year to you too! Hope everything is going ok and you’re feeling good x

@Decaffe how are you? How did the second blood test go?x

Thank you so much all for your nice messages! I am 4w6d today - time feels to be going so slowly. I had three HCGs on 11, 13 and 15dpo and the numbers were perfect, they pretty much tripled every 48 hours (you only need it to double) so they were completely on track (27 / 78 / 226). I had another HCG test on Friday, 19dpo (or the equivalent of 14dp5dt) so I’m just waiting to hear back what that was.

Yes @Honeybunie I always test, this is the first time I’ve ever seen a second line though! They money I must have wasted over the years! That’s great that you have a consultation for the 15th, not too long to wait. And I’ll keep everything crossed for a natural cycle for you. My consultant said as long as you have a reasonably regular cycle then they would be happy to do it. As long as you understand the theoretical risk that ovulation might be missed so you’d have to abandon the cycle. But with all the monitoring and scans I think that must be quite rare in reality. And yes I agree with @KLM25 that a new consultant and a fresh pair of eyes could be a really good approach!

@seekingbabyk they have put me on folic acid 5mg (as I am over 40 I think), progesterone suppositories 400x twice a day, and 150mg aspirin. However, they told me to ‘take aspirin’ last week so I took 75mg from Monday, and I didn’t realise until Friday they wanted me to take 150mg, so I only started that dose on Friday. Fingers crossed for your CD1 starting in a couple of days!

Thank you @KLM25 LM25 I have entered my numbers on that betabase website, that’s really useful. 😊 How are you doing now you’ve stopped the Lubion and pessaries? When I was doing my first transfer we found out I didn’t absorb the pessaries and so they switched me to Lubion. So I had a progesterone blood test on Friday as well as the HCG to see if my levels have gone up over the few days I’ve been on them. My progesterone last week was 75 and 77 so they said I didn’t actually need the pessaries but I’ll take whatever might help at this stage!

I have to say that the daily anxiety is something else. I have joined the September ‘bus’ on here but it all seems to be full of (lovely!) younger posters who are pregnant for the second or third time, they are already talking about nursery furniture and buying clothes and that is just so far away from my reality right now. All I want to do is make it to tomorrow. I check for spotting every time I go to the loo. I worry that all I am feeling is sore boobs but no nausea. I could barely do any work last week (so desperately need to open my laptop today and try to catch up!), but I have so little motivation to do so. I just seem to exist every day hoping to make it to bedtime with all being okay!

Oh @Decaffe I'm sorry you are feeling like that but I honestly think everyone on this thread who got pregnant was exactly the same. When you have years of trying and then ivf it just takes the joy from it doesn't it. Have you got your scan booked in now? Or are you thinking about a private one for peace of mind? The numbers are fantastic you must be so pleased about that! So happy for you xx

Yes it’s a totally different experience isn’t it, you’re so very aware of what can go wrong because for so long it has been going wrong.

Yes the hospital has booked me in for Feb 8th when I will be 7w3d. However I am tempted to book a private one for the week before. I know there will be very little to see in week 6, that there’s a wide margin of error, that the heartbeat might not be seen etc, but I just sort of want the reassurance that there’s something in there! And if for some reason it isn’t looking great, I’d have the NHS one booked for the following week. When did you have your first scan?

I might go back and read through our last thread. 🙂

@Decaffe wonderful news, been thinking of you! I know the anxiety all too well, I didn't post anything on social media or tell anyone I didn't see regularly so when I posted a week after Reuben was born a pic of him people I don't see were shocked! I just felt like anything to announce or prep for him was a big jinx even up to the day inwent in for the induction tbh! but I do wish I'd enjoyed it a bit more so do try to enjoy this lovely moment xx

@Decaffe not pregnant yet lol but hopefully in a few weeks 🤞🏻 I have seen some scans at 6 and some at 12 on this thread but I think most have booked private reassurance scans to be honest so I wouldn't feel worried about doing that x

Happy New Year everyone. Catching up on some of the messages - so lovely to hear from everyone and congratulations @Decaffe!

My scan was at 6 weeks @Decaffe and I know too well the feeling of checking for spotting everytime you go to the loo, I did the same. And the part about others planning for the future really resonates. Also this time last year time hop reminded me of the daily panic tests I would do.

It's easier said than done, but do stay positive and celebrate these days.

Also congrats @KLM25 - what an exciting year ahead.

Best of luck to you @seekingbabyk keeping my fingers crossed for you!

@Decaffe oh wow what amazing news!! I think we were all just holding our breaths waiting to hear whether the hcg had progressed, at least I was 😂that's just fantastic! even tripled! Ah bless you for feeling so anxious and for not being able to concentrate on your daily life. it must seem a bit surreal after everything you've been through to get pregnant naturally. I totally understand. I hope time will start to speed up a little for you and that everything progresses nicely. I mean your test results sound picture perfect and you seem to be in very good hands medically, so that is all very positive :) and i think that's lovely advice from @Imisscoffee2021 and @MinBins to try and celebrate and enjoy this time at least a little if you can.
Yeah my cycles are like clockwork so a natural cycle shouldn't be a problem. and yes I had an abandoned natural cycle before, so I know all about it. but that was only because the clinic didn't specify which clearblue test kit to use, and I didn't realise there were two, ended up using both, until one said I was ovulating and the other said I wasn't. so I would be keen to try it again to avoid the meds. they scan or monitor too much at my clinic in the lead up to transfers, only the day 10/11 lining scan. but i know my cycle is always bang on and I do ovulate so happy to try it. I think even after this last long medicated cycle my body has returned relatively well and quickly to it's normal cycle again. just waiting for my period to arrive and I know it's near as I've had the sorest boobs in quite some time during this luteral phase. i take it as a sign that my body came back with a vengeance after it had been surpressed and then pumped full of meds for so long haha. at least something that is working alright for me lol.

@KLM25 yes let's see what the new consultant will be like. how are you getting on? do you still suffer from pregancy symptoms or are you in the the nice phase now where you just feel great? glad you managed to stop some of the meds now! that must feel so good regain some indipendence and know your body has taken over again. any news on the Clexane yet? I hope you're a little less worried these days. I'm sure it'll all go to plan now. Try and have some confidence :)

@seekingbabyk you're waiting for CD1 atm? have you got all meds ready to start? how're you feeling atm? x

@Honeybunie I'm glad everything is getting back to normal for you.

Yes just waiting for CD1 this week then we have to call for a scan on day 2-3 then start meds. They are arriving Tuesday. I feel a mixture of things - excited, nervous, scared - I think the same as most people do. I have a real fear of pregnancy tbh and I'm not sure why but it's more being scared of feeling rough in the 1st trimester and the birth bit. I feel fine about having an earthside baby here but I guess the older you get the less you want to go through anything that makes you feel different to how you've always felt lol. It's time to do it though now. I feel like if we don't go for it now we never will and I really want to be a mum 🥰

@seekingbabyk I bet it is exciting to start again esp since you've had quite some time off it now haven't you. it is a good feeling. But I know it's daunting at the same time. Try and focus on the exciting bit for now I guess. Ah I wouldn't think that far ahead and scare yourself about the pregnancy yet, take it one step at the time. these things just fall into place and so many other women have been through it and survived hehe. it's all just part of the parcel :) I think I would take pregancy symptoms as a blessing and reassurance if I ever got pregnant. Let's hope we both get there! xx

@Honeybunie yes that's a good point actually about them being reassuring! Just going to take one day at a time and see what happens. I said to my husband actually if it doesn't work let's book a nice trip to soften the blow. Do you have a rough idea when your next transfer might be?

@seekingbabyk yeah defo book a trip if it doesn’t work. Any idea where you’d like to go next?
So I’m having my consultation on 15 February and my next period should start just after. If they allow a natural cycle and I don’t have to pick up meds then I could start straight after and get it done before Easter. If not then maybe May if it fits around work. We’ll see. Maybe they wanna do more tests or whatever..

@Decaffe That’s wonderful news 😊 I’m really so pleased for you. You’re bound to be anxious but just take it a day at a time and it will ease off a bit. After I had that bleed, I was wearing a pad every single day for almost 2 months 🤦‍♀️ but I have stopped doing that now so I must be feeling less worried! I found it quite reassuring as well when I started getting some symptoms.
I had my first scan at 6+5 and they were able to see a heartbeat, although they had to switch to an internal scan. No worries there as we’re all used to those, right?!

I’ve stopped all the medication now apart from the aspirin. Similarly to you, I was only taking 75mg until last week, they told me to increase it at 12 weeks. I don’t feel any different to be honest, I’m still feeling quite nauseous and tired. I still have some anxiety over whether everything is ok in there after stopping it all, but I’ve booked another scan for Friday. I have to say it is nice not to be ruled by 6 phone alarms a day!

Thanks so much @MinBins, hope everything is good with you.

That’s great news @Honeybunie. I’ve never done a natural cycle but it sounds much better and it must be a good thing to have a break from the meds. Hopefully your period has come and you can get the ball rolling. Glad to hear that you’ve got a date for your consultation 👍
Well my clinic got in touch last Monday and said I could stop the Clexane so I thought ok then and just stopped it. So that’s me off all of the meds now. It felt like a big step so I’ve booked another scan for this Friday 🤦‍♀️ and hopefully if everything is ok, I might be able to relax a little bit more.
I still feel pretty rough, still nauseous, really tired and some really bad headaches. I’m not complaining though as it’s reassuring, and I’m having the odd good day, so hopefully it might be easing off a bit.
Can you remember me talking about Luca who was so helpful when we were transporting the embryos? He became my email pal and then he gave me a hug when I went for the embryo transfer ☺️ Well I emailed him to tell him and he sent a lovely email back so that was really nice.

@seekingbabyk Yay, that’s so exciting that your meds are coming and you’re ready to get started. Don’t worry about feeling rough whilst pregnant, you would get through it and it’s only temporary. Like @Honeybunie says, just take it a day at a time. All those feelings are so normal, but I’m glad you’re feeling excited too as it is definitely exciting to be moving forward.
I also agree about booking a trip! I’m looking forward to hearing about your travels and @Honeybunie‘s too. We’re going to go to London for the night in March and I’ve booked ABBA Voyage. It’s an early birthday treat as I’ve been wanting to go for ages. It’s a matinee and we’ll be sitting down so it’ll be a bit of an OAP type trip ha ha x