Anyone facing infertility 40+ part 3

[Woodcottage1]

Just continuing from the previous thread

@LouScot sending you lots of hugs 🤗. Have you passed the recommendation for testing day? My clinic says to wait and test 16 days after egg collection even if bleeding. No matter what the outcome make sure you take care of yourself and allowed yourself to be emotional.

Oh gosh I’m so sorry @LouScot :(, I’m so sorry xxx

Thanks @Woodcottage1 and @iloveteddies . I had collection on the 1st, and have my blood test on Friday. I'm going to test tomorrow morning just in case, but it feels like a period.

How are you both getting on?

It does feel like period pain early days, testing tomorrow is a really good idea. I’ll be keeping everything crossed xxx

Thanks @Woodcottage1 , I'm bleeding a little too though. I'll update tomorrow but not getting my hopes up , thank you though xx

I realised earlier I'd said I felt different to other transfers but I meant egg collections, this is the first time I've transferred x

Negative. It was always the likely outcome but I'd convinced myself I was pregnant and started to hope...in the good moments I know I'll be okay, maybe even truly happy at some point, it's just going to be getting there that sucks. I'm going to ask for a review appointment and see if they'll let me try again x

@LouScot im so sorry, absolutely devastating. I’m very sorry. Three embryos was really positive, I hope they do suggest again in the review. I’m so sorry xxx

Thanks @Woodcottage1 . Sorry, 3 eggs, 2 embryos. They were transferred on day 5 but weren't quite blastocyst stage although said sometimes if they're left another day they're fine. I'm just wondering is this as good as it gets?! I had issues with my lining last time but it was great this time so that's a positive, and I did get 2 still going at day 5 so that's something. And also positive that they fertilised with normal IVF xx

Hi hope its okay to join?

I went in for my second transfer yesterday to find the embryo didn't survive the thaw, and the other 2 day 3s we had on ice slowly developed and then collapsed in on themselves. I'm 41 been trying for a second child since I was 37. I seem to fall pregnant naturally after having surgery to remove endometriosis, or via IVF (our first transfer was successful but resulted in a miscarriage). I cant justify having endless invasive surgeries, or IVF cycles when I only retrieve a max of 2 eggs, 1 embryo per cycle if im lucky and those are the results.

We are very fortunate to have our 5 year old, but would so dearly love to give him a sibling but feel this may be the end of the road for us. Options that I've been considering are:

Depot Lupron injection to suppress my endometriosis and try naturally with clomid/timed intercourse.
Traditional Chinese Medicine
Donor egg but husband is against it

Has anyone been in a similar situation? I feel totally shocked that Id respond this badly, the 2 day 3s were from when I was 38.

Three eggs and two approaching blastocyst is really good. With our age it’s all about the one or two eggs. I’d definitely try again if you can go though it again. Great that your lining was good too. Did you feel better going into this round? I think ivf gets easier. Xx

hi @mumtumtru, sorry to hear about the failed thaw. I didn’t know about Depot Lupron injections to suppress endometriosis, but that sounds like a plan. I’d paid for three rounds of mild ivf and embryo banking. I have one round left. I normally have about 2 eggs collected, and gave three potential embryos. I decided not to test them. I have endometriosis, and had my first natural pregnancy a few months ago followed by a miscarriage. I’d been doing similar to cold water therapy and I used a hyperbaric oxygen chamber and I think both helped. I think I’ll go for my final round next month. But will look into depot Lupron injections. I’m sorry you’ve had a difficult time x

Thank you feel very dazed by it all. We just can’t afford to carry on and the whole experience has given me almost symptoms of PTSD.

Hi everyone

At the start of my second cycle day 4 of stims ....after two cancelled cycles and a miscarriage I'm now on a naturally modified cycle . I've had a few scans and consultant said follicles growing but slowly and to me this worries me . This time round I'm just a nervous wreck and could cry at anything . Has anyone got any words of wisdom podcasts distraction techniques as I'm driving myself crazy and just want it to be all over with . Many thanks for reading and hope you're all ok xx

@Pinklady81 if it’s a mild ivf round, it takes a while for the follicles to grow, but I’ve had good responses from mild ivf. Try not to worry x

Hi Woodcottage,

I'm so sorry to hear about your miscarriage, I've had two and its just horrible to go through. Was this a natural conception? Had you had natural conceptions before with endo, or this was your first one? Could I ask you a bit more about what you had been doing differently, you mentioned oxygen chambers, this sounds really interesting just no idea how to go about where id find one etc.

Thanks @Woodcottage1 for this

Has anyone any thought on PGT testing ? I've got to decide it's all paid for but last round got one embryo 4cc grade so wouldn't test it and for two rounds left with naturally modified so likelihood is maybe 2/3 embryos tops is it worth doing ? My round will be frozen this time and then depending on what happens either fresh or freeze again due to endo ? I just don't want to have gone through this and for them to test and none are euploid or transfer and wait and see? I would be grateful for any ideas as the research is divided many thanks for reading and if anyone of you are currently mid round or starting a huge good luck and hug to you all xx

@mumtumtru hello! Yes first natural pregnancy ever. I only got diagnosed endo during my third ivf. The cold water therapy helps remove inflammation. The hyperbaric oxygen is good at cell regeneration, and creates energy. It’s good at helping create a hood lining. I don’t know which one helped or if both helped x

Jesus this is so hard. Aged 41 I had 5 blastocysts and just one tested positive. I’m now 43, and have 3 blastocysts on ice and one more collection to do. Personally I’m not going to test but this might be a mistake. There’s a lot of research in the USA that’s worth looking at which gives hope but who knows :(

Hi all,

Sorry, I've been missing for a bit. Feeling disjointed and as if my time is up. Felt so positive going into last round than I'm convinced that was only reason I did as well (still ended up with a negative test though!). Need to improve my positivity before I try again, no dates yet.

Hope everyone is bearing up x

Lovely to see your message @LouScot xx

Hello

Egg collection is Wednesday with one follicle 20mm and a few others behind whether they'll get there not sure after switching to naturally modified. My last cycle which was mild I got 3 eggs 1 fertilised and they froze it day 6 but 4cc grading ....

I cannot seem to get out of this negativity and could really do with some advice as all I'm doing is crying and feeling so low when I'm not even at the finishing post yet.

Please can anyone suggest anything ...

@Pinklady81 sending hugs. Have you had your trigger yet? Try and get an early night if you can -its so hard but try too not think too much. What will be will be and you'll get there somehow.

@Woodcottage1 thanks x I'll message you soon, just been a bit blah x

@LouScot thank you trigger tonight in half an hour x

@Pinklady81 hope it went well. Now you try to get to bed and sleep x

Thank you so much the injections don't phase me now at all it's the never knowing and not being in control as I'm sure you will know. Hope you're ok x