IVF/FET May/June 2022

[Coops0406]

Hi,

I'm just starting this thread as i've kept joining previous ones in hope that I would be at the same time but got left behind with the ups and downs of ivf.
After 3 cycles, 2 failed fresh transfers, PGT-A testing to give us 3 euploid embryos and just now getting our results from the ALICE/EMMA/ERA tests, I am now finally in a position to hopefully start FET on my next cycle with a transfer likely to be end of May or early June!! 😍. Would love to have people to chat to who are following a similar timeline.

To anyone else who has not completed their June cycle yet: are you due for a transfer this week/ next week?

@lucymills1234 co grata on being PUPO!!! It’s a long wait but hopefully it passes quickly. I wouldn’t worry about your embryo. If it wasn’t good enough they wouldn’t have frozen it!! Hoping this is the one

thank you for asking. I’m surprisingly ok. I’m Googling like a maniac and trying to cling on to a little bit of hope. i mean I did a home test this morning for no reason other than interest and it’s a huge positive dye stealer. It’s so annoying. I always thought once I got a BFP that would be that and I’d be so excited. Nope!
At least I’ll find out tomorrow either way for sure. I’ll be 7+4 tomorrow so if there’s no embryo which they suspect then at least I know it’s over and can move on with referral to EPU. I don’t see me getting another I don’t know type of answer

@BlueSilver23 @lucymills1234 Oh, that’s reassuring! I didn’t know that. It didn’t happen after my first EC, but if it happens to other people, I’m less concerned.

@lucymills1234 Congratulations on being PUPO! I completely understand why you feel that way. I’ve only had three transfers and I already feel like that! I keep reminding myself of the people I read about in forums that legitimately just keep trying and suddenly one cycle it just works. That is how conception works for most people after all. So of course there is hope each cycle but of course it is hard to keep believing it…that’s fine. You don’t have to. If the embryo sticks, it will stick regardless of how you feel and how many other embryos came before it. It doesn’t know any of that!

I can’t have my polyp removal until after the holidays unfortunately. I have a time on August 2, but that’s only if my cycle stays regular until then since it has to be timed to a specific part of the cycle apparently. We’ll see. Looks like I can’t have another transfer until September, regardless. That’s a long wait! But the drugs are out of my system so I’m able to have a clear head about it. It’s fine not having to go into the summer holidays recovering from a small surgery, and it’s infinitely better to have the polyp removed (if it hasn’t resolved itself by then) before a transfer than to transfer and risk it being a hindrance to implantation.
I’ve already got some at home yoga sessions in and am doing better with nutrition, so I’m just going to focus on shaping up and nurturing my body this summer, kind of get a bit of perspective after what has been a very fertility treatment heavy spring…

@lucymills1234 congrats on being PUPO! 😊 thanks for your advice, much appreciated. I've been going backwards and forwards so much then the embryologist rang and turned things on its head!

@Dobcaty @PMAmostofthetime not sure how we feel really after the meeting...it just seems that for now everything is really down to chance. I've never seen a positive test and with 3 failing to implant, one being a euploid, I'm concerned that it's implantation issues. But they say my womb is all good 🤷🏾‍♀️ so I think we'll do the thrombophilia test and regardless of that we'll ask for clexane, just in case...they said they would give a low dose if we wanted as it does no harm.

The embryologist rang to go through the embryos properly. So they were all graded as very good apparently and she said there is nothing wrong with a fully hatched embryo, apart from it being delicate for freeze and thaw but there is not enough evidence to suggest it affects implantation that drastically like I read somewhere. But they use caremaps algorithms which determines a level between 1 and 10 (10 being the best) for how well they were developing in the embryoscope for the 5 days. The one they put it was 6. What we have left is an expanded blast at 2 and a fully hatched one at 6. So she is recommending the expanded blast as she is on the wavelength that if I want to try again in a few years i will be 42/43 and it will be even harder to get embryos then, whereas if the next one doesn't work then we can go straight in for another EC that is essentially paid for. So I feel better for speaking to her and having that bit of clarification on the embryos.

How are you feeling @LT103 ? Is it another blood test tomorrow?

@HJen22 are you feeling any better?

How is everyone else??

@SamTTC just seen your post! I think it's sensible to get the polyp dealt with and then get back on. Also gives you a little time to be "normal" again after this wild ride! People have said my bright eyes are back! And I definitely feel less if a zombie too!!

@Coops0406 no just a scan tomorrow. Think once you’re at a certain stage they stop doing bloods. So think tomorrow it will either be a no foetus and refer to EPU for management or a miracle will have happened and there will be a baby there.

@SamTTC septwmber sounds like a long time but it will pass in no time. Definitely better to get the polyp removed just in case it is causing any problems and it gives you a couple of months ivf free which is always good for the head I think!

@LT103 really hoping for the best for you tomorrow 🤞🏾

@LT103 for sure. It’s been such a mental spring with both way too much on my plate at work and all this IVF stress and disappointment (two retrievals and three transfer cycles in five months!), so it’s actually such a relief to get a break from both at the same time. And having three embryos in the freezer obviously helps as well (although of course if none of them work I’ll be even older by next retrieval…oh well, I can’t do anything about that!)

I wish you the best of luck for tomorrow xxxxx

Day 12 of down reg still no AF- some cramps I usually associate with AF but still nothing! Starting to get stressed now.

@EasterBunny7 my EC was scheduled for 11th July but will probably be moved again 👎🏻

@SamTTC that's annoying but your right time get to enjoy the summer and a well deserved break and hopefully be less stressed going into transfer.

@LT103 hope you get answers today. Hopefully good ones.

@coops sounds like you had a good informative meeting.

So the gestational sac had grown a bit and the yolk sac is visible but no foetal pole which for almost 8 weeks means theyre pretty sure it’s a missed miscarriage so I’m being referred to EPU for further scan and then management. Just waiting on them calling

@LT103 im so sorry to hear this. Was really hoping for a miracle for you. There aren’t really good words to say for something like this are there? Sending lots of good thoughts your way and I hope the process goes smoothly for you and you get some time to recover from everything.

@LT103 so sorry to hear this. Sending you big hugs now and for your upcoming days 🥰

I thought I'd join this thread as I've started the process for another FET but it looks like the actual transfer will be ages away. I recognise some names from the previous thread (I had a MMC from a March transfer), waiting to do my final FET (only have 1 left and we're quitting IVF after that whatever the result)

@LT103 I'm sorry to hear this...I hope the Epu appointment goes ok

@lucymills1234 congrats on being pupo! I have a ds from a previous transfer and he was a BB, and my friend had BB twins. I've seen cases where euploids fail for some people and their mosaics work, it all seems a bit confusing really as to which embryo will stick!

I'm in a bit of limbo after my miscarriage.. I had my first period after my miscarriage bleed about 2 weeks ago so I was feeling quite happy things seemed to be getting back to normal. I had a 3dsis on Monday which was fine. But then on Wednesday (day 12) I started bleeding again?! So it looks like my hormones are out of whack... Such a pain as I was supposed to have an Emma/Alice test next week, and I worked out that if everything went smoothly I'd be able to squeeze my final transfer in during the school hols which would have been perfect as I work within the school system, and work from home during school hols. I've just had a scan and waiting for the doctor to call me back to see what to do next but I'll likely have to delay and have the transfer during a hectic time of year. I really didn't anticipate how big a gap between IVF transfers would be (6 months and counting..) and wish I started IVF last year now instead of this year!

@LT103 I'm so sorry. Sending lots of love.

@Coops0406 glad you feel happier from taking to the embryologist.

Hope everyone is doing ok ❤️

@LT103 I'm so sorry 💔 I so wish things had turned out good for you. Sending so much love and thoughts, i hope you are resting and taking care of yourself x

@Coops0406 I'm glad you had a good call with the embryologist and have a plan going forward. Do you know when the FET will be?

@lucymills1234 congrats on being PUPO, I am sending all the luck x

@SamTTC I'm sorry timing wise things haven't worked out so great but your outlook is great and it's definitely good to have some time and enjoy the summer. I know the waiting is hard though. I hope you have lots of nice plans x

Not much new for me, I emailed the clinic and they said I'd receive a video appointment when my case was reviewed. Spoke to my counsellor yesterday which was upsetting but still helpful. My OH has been so sweet doing little things to try and cheer me up and we've booked a lovely Airbnb next weekend to have a break away with the pup. Having things to look forward to I'm hoping will take my mind off the unknown and way forward x

I hope everyone has a lovely weekend and we get lots of sun ☀️ xxx

@HJen22 I hope you have a lovely time away next weekend. Something nice to look forward too.
Glad the counselling is helping. Take each day as it comes, some days will be harder ❤️ x

@Reefy thank you lovely, how are you doing? Xx

@LT103 I’m so sorry 🧡 this has been a tough time for you

@Herewegoagain881 welcome back!! Have you spoken to your clinic about your cycle?

@HJen22 thanks yeah I really did everything I could to beat the holiday and I still fell into it somehow 😅 nothing left but to see the bright side, which is that it’s summer and I am going away for a few weeks to a holiday home by the sea, and I can hopefully gain some perspective - there is more to life than this struggle, and that’s hard to remember when you’re in the thick of it! I really hope you have a nice time away as well, you deserve it so much! This really has been a relentless marathon hasn’t it?

@HJen22 yes not to bad thank you. Just back yesterday from our holiday which I definitely feel helped & to be honest we didn't talk about it all week which was nice in a way. Normally I'm straight on the phone to the clinic to book a follow up with the doctor but at the moment I don't want to do that I'm not sure when that will be yet but I will know when I'm ready.

@SamTTC thanks 😊 I've been in touch with the clinic quite a lot the past few days and had a scan yesterday, they don't really know what happened but said it was probably hormonal and to wait for my next period before doing the test.. if my hormones don't get back to normal for a while and they find something in the Alice/Emma tests it could end up being that I don't get to transfer until the end of the year or maybe even next year, I really hope not though!

@LT103 so sorry to hear this- IVF is cruel but what you have been through is unimaginable:(

@Herewegoagain881 I was on the March thread with you- I have to do a whole new cycle and EC was approx 11th July but have been down regging on Burserelin and still no AF despite it being day 13!.

We could possibly be in the 2ww together.
Sorry about your MMC and good luck for your FET.

Hope everyone else is doing well? X

AF showed up! Actually pleased to see it for once!!! It's on time for my normal cycle so not sure if the Burserelin is actually working?

Not sure what this means in regards to the cycle- whether down reg will continue for another week or Stims will start tomorrow. I will do a pregnancy test tomorrow and call the clinic at 9.

How's everyone doing? X

@PMAmostofthetime that’s great news :) do you have an idea of your timeline?

my period has lasted five days now, usually it’s only three, but I think it’s finally ending. I’m so relieved I didn’t have a transfer this cycle since the literal phase likely would have been too short! I feel like I have such a long wait ahead of me but I keep reminding myself that it’s actually only one cycle before the one in which I have my polyp removal, and in that time, I’m going out of town anyway so it all works out.

also enjoying the heat and the sunshine and that if someone offers me a glass of rose I don’t have to say no 😅☀️🌻

Morning girls, what a week I had...busy at work with all the sunshine and then obviously on my day off it's raining 😵

@LT103 I am so sorry to read your latest update. It's heartbreaking. Please take care of yourself and if you need a hand to hold we are in here.

@PMAmostofthetime good news on your af arrival, hoping this would be the last for a while. Are you going to have your dates planned with today's call?

Not too much update in here, I have been spotting since O, so I asked 3 times my GP to repeat some bloods, which finally she approved. She said in the first two responds that I don't need them as my results were fine, but I went back to her and said that my last bloods were in 2020 October and its frankly something is not right if I'm spotting 2 out of 3 cycles since last year May. So blood booked this coming Thursday and then we have our follow up appointment with the clinic tomorrow. We agreed with DH that we want to know why is the spotting before we do any FET. Other than that nothing to report...

I hope girls this summer brings good news for all of us, even when lots of us in the waiting state at the moment.

Hi all

@EasterBunny7 yep, my OTD is 15 days after transfer! It's about the longest I've heard of. It's because it's a medicated FET - when I've had natural FETs it's 11dp5dt. My last transfer was medicated too and that extra 4 days really dragged but I did hold out for OTD.

@LT103 thank you - really hoping this is the one too as I'm at the end of the road. So so sorry to see your news. Did you get a time with EPU yet? No words really.

@SamTTC thanks - I should think of each transfer as a clean slate really. I struggle with it because the 'better' embryos were transferred first, which gives me the fear that the odds are dropping each time as I work down to the mediocre blasts. But I didn't PGT and know grading isn't everything. I'm now 43, though all four ECs were at 41/42. I really hoped out of about 50 eggs and now 8 transfers there'd be one 'normal' one, but maybe there was and it didn't stick or maybe I have really dud eggs :(

It's a pain that you have to wait until September, but a positive twist on it is definitely that you don't have to have an op over summer.

@Coops0406 Glad you feel clearer after speaking with your embryologist and you have a plan. Often I find the uncertainty the worst thing - when you make a plan, you know there are no guarantees but you feel more empowered somehow.

@Herewegoagain881 I really hope I have some luck this time! I realise a lot of people would be really happy with a BA grade so I don't want to sound ungrateful. But (stating the obvious!) I'd rather have one baby than dozens of AA blasts in the freezer! Not that I have that either...

Hope everyone else is doing ok. I'm now 5dp5dt and no symptoms. I thought I maybe had a cramp or two on 2dp/3dp but it was such a vague feeling it wasn't really strong enough to call cramp. If I wasn't in the TWW I doubt I would've even registered it. Probably meds/digestion.