IVF/FET May/June 2022

[Coops0406]

Hi,

I'm just starting this thread as i've kept joining previous ones in hope that I would be at the same time but got left behind with the ups and downs of ivf.
After 3 cycles, 2 failed fresh transfers, PGT-A testing to give us 3 euploid embryos and just now getting our results from the ALICE/EMMA/ERA tests, I am now finally in a position to hopefully start FET on my next cycle with a transfer likely to be end of May or early June!! 😍. Would love to have people to chat to who are following a similar timeline.

@BlueSilver23 yep after our second EC, I developed a fibroid. Also recently had a laproscopsy and I have scar tissue where I have pain. Neither an issue for IVF though.

I just wanted to say I am so sorry for so many of you going through heartbreak with how this round has gone. I feel for you all. This really is a long hard journey and we can only try to stay optimistic as we have no control. Am hoping for better outcomes next time for anyone who hasn't had a great one this time. Or if it's all too much to try again to know you gave it your all xx

@SamTTC that's fantastic news about your 3 blasts! Congratulations ❤️ really pleased for you!

I hope everyone had a nice weekend. I've got a Drs line for some time off work. I feel bad taking time off but after two cycles with no transfers or even close it just is hard to stay positive and keep it together right now. I know I need to be kind to myself but not sure I've ever felt so bad about myself for so many reasons 😢

How are the tww's going for you ladies? And your stims @PMAmostofthetime x

I hope you had a fab time at your football day out @Coops0406 x

@SamTTC 3 frozen blasts out of 5 is amazing!!!! So happy for you!!

@LT103 how are you doing lovely, i hope you're hanging in there x

@HJen22 i am. Kind of come to terms with the fact of what is most likely to happen. Have my second scan on Friday and if no change I’ll be referred to EPU for management.
how are you? I see you took some time off work. I’m glad you are giving yourself time to come to terms with everything. It really does take a lot out of you.

Hi all, I hope you are doing well and had a good weekend! I had a fab evening out but boy did I feel it the next day!
Review meeting tomorrow so we'll see what they say!

@SamTTC congrats on the 3 blasts! That's fabulous news! You must be pleased!

@LT103 how are you doing? So sorry this is dragging! How are you feeling in yourself?

@HJen22 so sorry you're feeling like this. You've been through a lot and hormones will still be playing a big part. I hope having some time off work gives you chance to look after yourself and do some things that make you feel like you again. You are amazing and just need to keep telling yourself that 🥰

@PMAmostofthetime how are you doing? I hate that lovely news but it hurts us so badly! Hard to know how to react but I think our feelings are totally valid!

@LT103 I'm so sorry for what you are going through, this really is so tough. I'm just numb really. I just can't believe we didn't make it to transfer, again. I was really naively pinning my hopes on at least getting a proper try at it this time. I'm desperately trying not to think about the next step until I'm over this one. I've a counselling call on Thursday where I'm dreading telling her what's happened x

@Coops0406 @HJen22 it really is just rubbish. I’m feeing ok just now but only because I’m busy at work and not really processing it all. By Friday I might not be so good. I debated whether to speak to the ivf counsellor or not. I’m not sure if it would help me deal with everything any better or not. I’ll see how things go.we have a holiday booked in august so if things go as expected on Friday we probably won’t try again til after our holiday.

@Coops0406 eill be interesting to see what they say tomorrow and I guess it will be good to start thinking towards next step

@HJen22 i think you just take it one step at a time and don’t worry yourself just now about thinking about the next step. I really hope your counsellor appointment helps

@HJen22 @LT103 thank you both so much. I'm thinking about you both a lot and honestly for all our different struggles in this ttc community, I think your positions -while very different- are both some of the hardest to handle, and I'm so impressed by how you are both coping. I'm not sure I could manage. Spending so long without making it to transfer just feels unfairly cruel @HJen22, and the never-ending uncertainty of the rollercoaster you are on @LT103 would drive less strong people completely mental. I am so so so hoping the time of uncertainty passes quickly for you both and you are able to make a plan for the future - we're here to advise or support as much as you need.

@Coops0406 thanks, yeah it's great! I'm feeling very fortunate. It's odd, because it feels like IVF groundhog day - I had the exact same result last time, and obviously that ended in three failed transfers, so it's hard for me to get my hopes up that this will turn out any different. But at the same time, you can't help but be hopeful can you? They are three brand new embryos after all, although it feels like the exact same ones (I even had two day 5s and one day 6 again 😂)

Apart from anything else, I cannot describe the relief on having the drugs completely out of my body though. Looking back, it was like I was always a little bit drugged, or weighed down, and now I can actually move freely again? It is pretty scary how much this process affects you both physically and mentally, without you even really noticing. The HEAVINESS is just a constant state, and once it is gone, you really do feel lighter in every way. (Regardless of what the scales say...!)

@Coops0406 so glad to hear you enjoyed your weekend ❤️ not so fun you felt it the next day, hope you're feeling better today! I hope your review meeting tomorrow goes well. Thank you so much, it's so hard to be kind to yourself when I just blame myself for all of this upset and I feel awful my OH is having to deal with such a miserable me, again!

@LT103 speaking to my counsellor has helped a lot, I'm just not keen to go over the whole ordeal. I've been avoiding telling anyone really other than my parents, sister and best friend. But I'm sure it will help talk things through with her. It's not for everyone though. We are the same, we've a holiday booked at the end of august and I'm actually glad we booked when we did and it's all planned, something to look forward to, we all def could do with some time away I'm sure x

@SamTTC thank you so much for your kind words ❤️ and support always! So many parts of this journey seems so unfair for all of us, we all feel the same upset and disappointment in a way, when we so badly want this to work. But we have to have hope, so please do have hope that one of these blasts will be your baby 🥰 I'm really glad that you feel better off the medication and hopefully your body can have a good little break x

@PMAmostofthetime sorry I missed that, I'm so sorry it doesn't get any easier when friends announce. We can't help but as well as feel happy for them, wish it was us. It's totally normal, I hope you're ok x

Hi everyone,
I messaged on here last week. I wondered if anyone could help me please?
I've had my beta today 13days past 3 day transfer and my HCG levels are 23. I've got to go back for another one Wednesday as it's so low. Anyone have any idea if this is realistically going to be a bad outcome? Trying to prepare myself after a neo natal death and two miscarriages. No living children x

Ugh @Hhdxx dont worry too much just yet. ive just been through the same and it hasn’t been a fun 2 weeks. im really hoping it’s good news for you. Everything I’ve read has said it doesn’t matter what the hcg is just that it’s doubling so really you won’t know until the next sample!

Basically at this stage it could go either way. I got told mine was too low and most likely non viable or ectopic and would likely be lower at next check however it continued to rise.
the handout I got from my clinic said hcg less than 50 had a 70-90% chance of loss but that means there are some that do well.

ive now had my hcg checked 6 times! (The last 2 we’re because of a bleed) and each time despite rising I’ve been told it was a suboptimal rise
mine was 32 at 10days post 5d transfer
48 hours later it was 56
because of the jubilee weekend my next was 4 days later at 180
then another 48 hours later was 330
my latest 2 were 1280 then 48hrs later 1850

They are thinking mine is a blighted ovum where it’s an empty sac and foetus doesn’t grow but I have another scan on Friday to confirm.

i was sure I was late to implant as my home test only went positive the day before otd but they still seem sure I won’t have a good outcome!

good luck for your next sample!!! Hoping it’s a good rise!

@Hhdxx @LT103 I just had my HCG readings 12pt5dt, only 21 :( that's a chemical pregnancy right? They want to test again in 2 days but after 43 eggs collected this is my last go. Know we are all struggling

@Courtjobby this really isn’t a lucky thread this month. I think the chances are small when it’s that low but again I think until you get the next sample you won’t know for sure!
keeping everything crossed for you

Thanks @LT103 , no it really hasn't been :( I'm still keeping mine crossed for you, you have been really through the mill with all the tests and waiting.

@LT103 I have been thinking that this thread is really unlucky too and whether we need a brand new shiny one to change our luck!!

@Courtjobby and @Hhdxx sorry you are going through similar to @LT103, you are all amazing and really hope for the best for you.

Our review was okay, the only thing they can suggest is blood test for thrombophilia as there is a history of blood clots in my family...then they may prescribe clexane too. But realistically I just think it's the embryos. And we now have one euploid unlikely to work and one that we really hope could work. It's just deciding whether to go for the best one and be left with the other one frozen as our fall back later in life, or to use the worst one and know that we are paying to keep a decent one frozen. Then have the other cycle we have paid for. If we use the best one and it doesn't work I think we will just be left in a hopeless place.
Embryologist is ringing us this week to talk through things with us and see how we progress

@BlueSilver23 I'm just a massive baby I hated it last time it upped but I am getting better.

@Dobcaty I know Day 9 today!! No sign of AF which they told me would have arrived by now though 😤. I've read online that they may make me down reg for a week longer.
How are you feeling?

@SamTTC enjoy your holiday! We rearranged ours as it clashed and didn't know when to rearrange it too so moved it to the last possible date that we could.
Great that you have 3 Frosties.

@Twittwoo2020 Welcome, 20 follicles is amazing at baseline :).
How are you feeling on stims?

@HJen22 don't feel guilty, you have to look after you and you have been through an emotional roller coaster and are still waiting for the next steps. You need time off to process and wait for answers.

Day 9 of Burserelin today( well the 10th tonight just realised the time) still no AF.
Dr Google tells me that this means an extra week of down regging- if this doesn't show soon.

@Coops0406 @HJen22
I'm super happy for them but yearning for it to happy for us so we can go through everything together. It's a painful yearn :(.
We have come away for a few days which is helping to take my mind off things.

@Coops0406
How did your review meeting go?
Get a shinny new thread up we all need some luck x

@PMAmostofthetime not too long now :) 10 days done. When is your baseline scan? My clinic wasn't worried of the time of the bleeding what they said they wanted to bleed by the baseline scan. On my first down reg I started to bleed on day7, on the second one day 11. However my baseline scan was scheduled a week later on the second one as I had other commitments by that time. (So I down regged a week longer as planned)

@Coops0406 how did you feel after the appointment? I have no advice what I would do...really hard decision. Did you say you have an option for another fresh cycle before frozen?

It's not too much report in here, I did ovulated Monday early morning - the pain woke me up at 5am!!! and lasted about 30mins, and had my usual blood in my cm (sorry tmi) , so currently 2dpo, but we couldn't dtd until that evening (loads of work) so not hoping anything this time. Our follow up appointment next Tuesday morning, I need to start to think about questions. What would you ask? Just a reminder it was the second fresh cycle (ICSI), first had failed with two 3days embryos put back, second was 1 5days, low hcg on OTD, but 2 frozen on day6.

@LT103 how are you coping? Is this Friday another scan or blood? Or both?

@Courtjobby @Hhdxx sorry that both of you in the limbo. When is your next blood?

@Dobcaty I have to do a pregnancy test Sunday and ring the clinic Monday. They will then tell me whether to start stims or not-
No baseline- I didn't have one last time either x

Hi. Has anyone had success with 9 cell day 3 embryos? Thanks

I just got my period today? It’s only cycle day 23, mine is usually fairly regular at 27 ish days 🤨
time to call the clinic and ask if they have time to take the polyp out before the break I suppose…but how strange!

@SamTTC I got mine day 18 (usually 28/29 days ish) but just assumed that the EC messed things up and that this was normal? I wasn’t expecting my cycle to follow its normal pattern (from memory I think my cycle was very short for my last EC too). Do people find their cycle stays roughly within the same pattern even with EC? Am I unusual?!

Hopefully you can get that polyp out soon

It's gutting that there's not better news all round for everyone on this thread.

@SamTTC I've had four ECs and my cycle was shorter than usual after two of them and a bit longer for the other two! So I think it's pretty standard.

@LT103 stupid question, but how are you doing?

@HJen22 Sorry to hear you didn't get to transfer. It must be gutting to feel like after all the effort, you didn't get a shot.

@Coops0406 for what it's worth, my advice would be use the best one. Yes, if it doesn't work you're gutted but you would be potentially more so if you banked your hopes on it and it doesn't work later down the line. It's a massively personal decision but in theory the better one gives a better chance of a shorter 'route to pregnancy', which is the ultimate goal? Sorry if I've overstepped giving my opinion!

I had my transfer yesterday, a 4BA. It thawed well and re-expanded back to how it was pre-freeze. The transfer was also smooth this time which was a relief after the last one (which took 2 Drs and 2 hours). OTD is ages away as my clinic says test on day 15 with a medicated FET. As I said before this is transfer number 8 so my feelings are split between really really wanting this to work and sort of imposter syndrome thoughts of 'of course it won't, because it hasn't yet' 🙄 I also can't get out of my head that when I had my last failed transfer, it was a 3BA but they prioritised it ahead of this one because the 'development looked better' on Embryoscope footage. Makes me worry that this one is a dud. Guess I have to trust that it's still a 4BA, so presumably decent quality.

I need to find distractions for the TWW, pronto!

@lucymills1234 wow, you've been through a lot to get to the 8th transfer. Wishing you all the best.

About your OTD: is that 15 days from transfer?!

To everyone who did not have a successful cycle this round, I am really sorry to hear about them. I'm on my fifth ivf attempt so I fully appreciate the remorse, anger and worries that come with it. I hope that your next attempt will be successful.