IVF/FET May/June 2022

[Coops0406]

Hi,

I'm just starting this thread as i've kept joining previous ones in hope that I would be at the same time but got left behind with the ups and downs of ivf.
After 3 cycles, 2 failed fresh transfers, PGT-A testing to give us 3 euploid embryos and just now getting our results from the ALICE/EMMA/ERA tests, I am now finally in a position to hopefully start FET on my next cycle with a transfer likely to be end of May or early June!! 😍. Would love to have people to chat to who are following a similar timeline.

Unfortunately things are still not clear but unlikely good. There was no obvious ectopic thankfully. There was a small gestational sac in the uterus but no foetal pole seen. She thinks maybe saw start of a yolk sac but unsure. So it’s looking more like it’s going to be a blighted ovum/early miscarriage but we have to go back in a week for another scan. Another week of waiting

Hi, can I please join?
Just had ET after a fresh cycle of a grade 5BB which is good/average for a blast.
Two other lower quality day 6 blasts have been frozen. I'm 41.
I'm sorry to hear what you're going through @LT103, I had a couple of early losses last year (the second at 8 weeks hit me particularly hard).

@LT103 are you serious…another week’s wait???? I’m glad to hear it’s not an ectopic but still. This is unbearable.

@HJen22 I hate the gym only once or twice in my life have I really stuck at it. I prefer walking or cycling.

I'm ok thanks day 5 today finishing the 7pm injection stressful though I should have gone for 8- anyone know if it's safe to move the time back they said between 6-8 and I went earlier this time as I thought it would be better but it's proving to be too close a call sometimes coming from work.

@Reefy enjoy a nice break away from IVF. The weather looks promising too.

@Dobcaty it's nice to not plan sometimes isn't it. Buy clothes that you want without thinking what if.
Let's hope they won't fit soon enough though.

@LT103 so sorry to hear this, another week :(
I'm hoping you get answers next week.

@birdbybird Hi, how are you feeling in the 2WW?

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@PMAmostofthetime thanks for asking. Not feeling very confident. Its only 1dp5dt and based on my age I think the odds are 70% against me.
How are you going? Is this your first cycle?

@Dobcaty thank you so. Yes that's it go treat yourself & well done for buying the smaller size!

@HJen22 thank you so much ❤️

@PMAmostofthetime thank you

@birdbybird there is hope so try and keep it- your not out until your out. 2ww is awful though.

Easier said than done I know.

2nd cycle, first was March and our Eggs fertilised but at day 5 they were early blast and Cavitating Morula so 2 went back in and it didn't work. That was short protocol.
Long protocol this time.
Day 5 of down reg Burserelin injections- slightly moody but so far so good even with my needle phobia! X

@LT103 so sorry to hear that you have yet more waiting! It's unbelievable! How are you doing?

@Reefy I hope you are enjoying time with the family 🥰

@HJen22 I hope you are doing okay. My only advice is when you can, get back to the things you love and that make you you. We all lose ourselves in this process because it's all so consuming.

@Dobcaty good on you for getting those ££££s spent!! A splurge on ourselves is well deserved after all this! Is your follow up a week on Monday?

@birdbybird stay positive!, will be thinking of you in this 2WW.

@PMAmostofthetime how is it going? How long are you down regulating for? Glad the injections are going okay

I've had a good week, been to the gym a couple of times, my mum came back from visiting my grandma in Canada...having been away for 4 weeks she missed out on the whole of the FET which I'm slightly glad of as I know how upset for me she has been. So we went out for tea last night. Still hard explaining all the IVF stuff to her and sometimes the questions she asks are annoying but hey ho!

And tonight my brother got me a surprise...he told me I had to dress smart casual and be available from about 3pm ish! I've found out last night we're off to an evening with 3 Man Utd legends from back in the days when we were great (we're big footy fans!)...3 course meal, photo with them and live interview etc! So that's my fun weekend ready for a busy week at work next week and our review meeting on Tuesday!

Oh my goodness @Coops0406 how wonderful! Your brother sounds amazing! Enjoy 😄

you are so right in general that this process makes us lose ourselves. The meds alone. I feel like two completely different people when I’m on and off the hormone manipulation. But of course also living in constant limbo about what our future will look like is incredibly draining. Really making an effort to finding joy in other things is vitally important in this long game.

@SamTTC he's great! Obviously all brothers are slightly annoying but he knows exactly when to leave me alone and knows how to cheer me up. It also means he gets a good evening out! Haha! Really looking forward to it, a couple of drinks on the train and before hand!
How are you getting on? You're right about it being a long game, I don't think any of us walked into this thinking just how long it could be!

@Dobcaty good on you going out and spending money on you, on something fun! And what a wonderfully positive attitude you have ❤️ I hope you are doing good and have a nice weekend planned

@LT103 I'm so so sorry that this unknown nightmare is continuing on for you. I can't begin to imagine how difficult it has been. Well done for getting through the last few weeks, I really hope you have some answers soon x

@birdbybird congrats on being PUPO. I wish you the very best of luck and hope the tww goes quickly for you!

@PMAmostofthetime yeah I've went through periods of really being into the gym and then really not being bothered over the years. I don't want to force it but I'll be sure to try and add in some new exercise along with my dog walks. Well done 5 days down! Hope the injections are getting a little easier!

@Coops0406 I'm ok ❤️ just got so many feelings and emotions about everything but I'm trying to take each day as it comes. I've been in quite a lot of pain too which adds insult to injury but I feel a bit better physically today! I'm really glad to hear you had a good week, that your mum is home (they mean well don't they but some questions hurt when people just don't really understand) and wow what a fab weekend planned with your brother! How lovely ☺️ that will be so fun and definitely something different and exciting! I hope you have the best time; you deserve it x

@SamTTC how are you doing lovely?

@Reefy have a lovely well deserved holiday. I have surgery booked in for the 14th July to remove the endometrioma, but good chance I will lose that ovary. But they wont do IVF with it there and it's causes me so many issues so I just have to go in and hope for the best. But with the odds already stacked against us I think egg donation is our best option. But all the time there is a remote possibility they can get eggs retrieved from me they won't let us do egg door on the NHS! with such a poor AMH and likely to go lower if I lose one side it may force them to allow us that option. Who knows...... So it's just a wait and see. Take care of yourself recharge your batteries, be you for a while and all the very best. S xxxx

Some good news! Out of my 5 eggs, I have 3 frozen blastocysts!!

It is exactly the same as last time 😂 and of course out of that I had zero BFNs but still, oh my goodness. I am so relieved. I really think this is a strong indication that I am right and my issue is implantation. Of course egg quality could still be a factor, but surely it is less likely with such a good blast formation rate, twice with different donors?? I don’t know. Either way, I am super happy right now 😄

@Coops0406 I'm ok thanks down reg for 14 days- day 6 today.

@Coops0406 @HJen22
I'm not causing such a fuss about injections as I was on day one- that will all change on day 15 and first day of stims though when there's 2 😂🙈.

Glad you have had a lovely few days-
Sometimes the distraction is what you need, I hope you enjoy today.

I had some news yesterday that a very close friend is pregnant- no one know about our journey and they had some fertility.issues with their first DC who is now in primary school and this was a complete suprise. I am so happy for them but amongst the tear of joy for them there was some yearning for myself- trying to think positively that I will have another little one in my life soon.

@Thornbird80 so sorry you are awaiting the unknown bit I hope the operation goes very well for you and you recovery quickly.

Can I ask? How did they find this out? Does it cause you any pain?

@SamTTC that's amazing news so pleased for you.

@SamTTC Thats great news! 🙌 I think you said you are 35ish? So there is unlikely to be an issue with egg quality since you are relatively young and especially as you say with young and tested donor sperm? Are your clinic doing any testing for implantation issues?

@PMAmostofthetime I found that I was so used to the injections by then that adding in another one wasn’t too bad. It was a bit annoying time wise though!

@LT103 im so sorry you’re still in this limbo

Hope everyone else’s TWW and stims are going well.

@BlueSilver23 thank you 😊 it’s a double edged sword because I’ve been here before with 3 blasts and no bfps to show for it, but that’s exactly why I’m relieved at this result, because no unfortunately my clinic doesn’t seem to believe in implantation issues? I have tried to explain to them that after trying naturally with a partner, having 4 IUIs and now 3 embryo transfers, not having a single bfp surely supports my suspicion that it’s implantation (because even genetically abnormal embryos can implant, that’s the main reason biochemicals happen)? But they just keep saying the most likely explanation for failed implantation is embryo quality. Which I’m sure is true statistically, but I want them to see me as an individual patient. Anyway long story short, having 3 more blasts is good because either one of them implants (🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞) or else -surely- if they all fail again my clinic will listen to me… I still have one more retrieval on the nhs before potentially having to go private. Would rather figure out any potential issues now than later. Does that make sense?

@Thornbird80 thank you. Im glad you have date to remove the endometria. I've got everything crossed for you! 🤞.

@SamTTC really pleased with your amazing rate! Well done! What is your next step?

@PMAmostofthetime already been 6days?! I honestly feel time flies this year. Maybe because I'm so busy with everything else (I still have time to Dr.Google 🤦🏻‍♀️) but once I'm on the move with my day suddenly it's night time. Not sure its good or bad, as I often forget to just sit down and relax, but with all things which just happened I'm pleased with it.

A question for all of you: is it possible that I'm already close to ovulation? Miscarriage happened only11 days ago and I have so much egg white (sorry TMI). I did a LH test this morning out of curiosity but it was not close to peak and maybe won't be... I feel I have so much energy, my mood is on really the upbeat (probably because of the sunshine). I did some searches and most of them said ovulation can happen after 2-4 weeks once the bleeding has been stopped. (which is 5 days only for me) or is it something else? I'd love to have some insight or experience if you have.

@Dobcaty I think it’s so different depending on your body how quickly it finds balance again, it very well could be an ovulation sign if it fits with your normal cycle. But ewcm can happen for other reasons besides ovulation, right? It does seem very soon. I believe
my clinic says that to be safe they want you to wait at least until your next period to make sure your cycle is back in balance. What does yours advise?

it’s so nice that you’ve felt energised and enjoyed the sun, honestly I think it sounds like you are coping with this much better than most would. I’m really in awe of that. And I know what you mean about time flying, work is also incredibly busy for me and I can’t believe it’s already almost July??

Next steps for me now is polyp removal and actually having a proper summer holiday! I have to wait for my period to arrive and call them to schedule the removal, but we’re right on the cusp of the staff’s (much deserved) three week break, so I might have to wait until my cycle in August to have it removed. And then the cycle after, I can have a FET. That’s fine. Having blasts in the freezer is honestly best case scenario going into the break that I was dreading so much. I can actually relax and -dare I say it- enjoy myself.

(and by polyp I mean fibroid! I cannot keep the terms straight)

@SamTTC thank you so much your answer. Had no advice from clinic apart to avoid sex while I'm bleeding. I'm so surprised on myself, usually after a failed cycle (3 iui, 2 cancelled, 2fresh) takes weeks to just feel myself alright. Probably the summer feeling helps a lot. Or the fact that actually I had a positive test first time in my life. Or that we have 2 in the freezer. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I think I will keep on eye with opk and we'll see.

3 weeks break sounds lovely. Hope you can relax, enjoy some wine, laugh a lot and get some really good memories. And good luck with the fibroid removal! 💚

@SamTTC you make sense yes, you’d hope that the clinic would look at little closer. As they say most will get pregnant within three rounds unless there are other issues? So not sure why they aren’t looking closer if you’ve had three rounds now? And not sure why they think there is embryo quality issues when you’re young (in IVF terms anyway!) and using young healthy sperm! Frustrating though because you feel like you’re wasting your time and embryos (and money!)

Can you not ask them to do some investigations if your gut feeling is that there may be implantation issues?

Anyone experienced sudden sharp ish constant lower abdo pain two weeks or more after EC? I seemed recover well enough but for the past few days I’ve had sharp sort of ovary/pubic area pain. I didn’t have anything like it last time I had EC. Ive had my period already post EC and it’s not period like pain anyway. I would have thought I’d better not worse at this point pain wise and suddenly developing pain? Anyone experienced this? Do I need to worry?

Hi Ladies, hoping to jump on here. I have been TTC since Jan 2020, an ectopic in summer 2020 and nothing has happened for us since. I did 2 rounds of IUI this year already and both failed. Both my husband and I are healthy and no cause for the infertility has been found on any tests so far so they ruled it as unexplained.

Started IVF this month with the hope it works for us. Aiming to do a day 5 fresh transfer, all going to plan. Started stims a couple of days ago after doing down reg using prostap 3 weeks before my first day of stims. I had my baseline scan end of last week on the morning before i started stims, it showed 20 follicles overall and nurse seemed pleased with what she saw so I am guessing i’m hopefully in a good position starting off.

Fingers crossed all will go ok, feeling super overwhelmed about everything, it’s a very lonely journey to go through when you don’t confide in anyone you know so glad I have somewhere to speak/post now 🙂