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When can investigations resume? (Scotland.)

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theotherfossilsister · 07/05/2020 13:53

Just that really, I know it's a difficult time for so many people, but clinics shuttered just as DP finally agreed to get his semen analyisis done. My progesterone was normal, and I have regular periods, so I don't think Clomid would be an option for us. We've been trying for a year and a half, and I am 35 on Saturday.

If we do get a referral, and need IVF, how long will that take? So many questions?

Thanks

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theotherfossilsister · 12/08/2020 14:07

Ah, sorry, I see both posts sent after all, so I have posted twice saying pretty much the same thing in different ways, sorry about that. Xx

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Daisz · 12/08/2020 14:10

So sorry @BeHereNowx32, I was secretly praying for a miracle, there is always that tiny exception to the rule, and I was truly hoping that would be the case. @RonRon1 you are next in line, and wishing you the best of luck. Egg retrieval feels like such a distant memory for me, but can still remember the floaty dream like state I was in just before it was done, then just waking up and it was all over in a flash. @Bambionice80 sounds like things are moving onwards for you now, hope your referral can give some answers, I know with unexplained infertility you never really have answers so there is always the frustration at not knowing how to fix something.
@theotherfossilsister sorry it was not your month again, but with each passing month there is always that possibility. 37 ain't so bad, I was 37 at egg retrieval and it has been quite successful for me so far🤞.

RonRon1 · 12/08/2020 15:25

@BeHereNowx32 sending you lots of love as always. Hopefully you get answers. I think you have the right idea taking sometime away from IVF and do your next transfer in a while. Did you say you are thinking after the year?

Thanks @Daisz collection tomorrow, I agree it has gone quickly this time. I just hope for healthy eggs and a good fertilisation rate..it is all so nerve wracking! Can't wait to get tomorrow done and dusted as I am super nervous about the sedation.

@theotherfossilsister that is massively annoying, why do they have to do a new form? It is good that the wait for IVF is 6 months now (although I know prob feels like ages!) When the ball starts rolling everything moves so fast. Defo qood plan to focus on her health! 36 is still a great age, I wouldn't worry!

BeHereNowx32 · 12/08/2020 18:48

I typed you all out an individual reply, but I’ve lost it, and I’m too emotional to remember it all now 😭
I’ve held it all in today, and now I can’t stop crying.
I had to get an abdominal scan, but they couldn’t see clearly, so another internal scan. (@BambiOnIce80 it was EPU. The same sonographer who scanned me during my pregnancy, and he remembered us).

I will be ok, because i am so lucky to have an amazing daughter. I just wish I could have gave her a sibling.

We have a 6 day embryo (@RonRon1 thinking about doing it next year, yeah). So I worry about that. The doc said they have a lower success rate)

Thank you for you kinda words everyone. @Daisz @theotherfossilsister

And good luck for egg collection @RonRon1 ❤️❤️ Don’t worry about the sedation. It’s actually so nice. You will just fall asleep and not be aware at all. Then they bring you a cuppa with biscuits.

@theotherfossilsister I hope you don’t need to wait long. Definitely good idea to look after yourself, and not just for ivf, but you deserve it. X

BambiOnIce80 · 13/08/2020 18:08

Sending you so much love @BeHereNowx32 💓 You're going through hell and you have every right to cry and cry and cry 💐 I cried on and off between finding out about the MMC and until about 3 weeks after the procedure, but then the hormones hit and I pretty much cried non-stop for the next 3 weeks. Still here if you need a shoulder.x

How did you get on today @RonRon1? I've been thinking of you and wishing you luck from afar🤞🍀

How are you feeling @Daisz? Any symptoms to report yet? I hope your bubble is holding 😊

I'm sorry that your lovely evening got trashed because of the freak storm @theotherfossilsister 💐 Hopefully another month will give your new drugs some time to get into your system and work their magic on your immune system 🤞 May I ask if it's prednisone that they've given you? Now that it's looking like I don't have an AVM, I'm wondering about immune issues 🤔

Daisz · 13/08/2020 22:40

@BeHereNowx32 I hope your feeling a little better tonight? It will be a very emotional journey of ups and downs, and I think you should allow yourself those feelings instead of trying to be brave about it. I really understand wanting a sibling for your dd, I strongly feel that way too, my dd is very sociable and I see her looking at siblings when we are out and trying to join in their fun, what has struck me is some of the parents reactions to my dd has been less than favourable when she has gone up to their dc's and that has really fuelled my desire more. I have made a promise to the universe that once I have had this baby🤞 hopefully all being well, I will never make a child feel unwelcome if they are on their own and I shall always make an effort to include them, because I will always remember my dd being tutted at or ignored, while their mothers have shooed their dc's away from us. All is not lost and I think you are doing the right thing taking some time out to heal emotionally and physically so that you can give your next shot your all. When you are feeling up to it, just take some time for yourself and then when the time is right refocus.♥️

@BambiOnIce80 So I have my scan a week tomorrow, again it has felt like an eternity. I have been feeling quite tired and a little bit nauseous, but not enough to make me I'll or to effect day to day life, although admittedly I try to lie down for a bit in the afternoon. My breasts feel like they have been attacked. On the nicer side I get the odd bubbly floaty sensation that makes me think that something nice is going on in there, but there are long periods of time when I feel absolutely nothing, and then the mind starts wandering so I need to then distract myself. You are sounding much more positive Bambi which is nice to hear, I really hope this is a turning point for you🤞.

@theotherfossilsister really sorry to hear about your horrible night. It was a truly horrific storm thankfully it is a rarity in this country, but that does not make it any less inconvenient for you. Hope everything gets sorted soon.x

Daisz · 13/08/2020 22:42

....and of course @RonRon1 hopefully everything went well for you today. I knew I forgot someone.🍀

BeHereNowx32 · 14/08/2020 07:35

@BambiOnIce80 I’m back at the hospital on Wednesday. Wonder if they will discuss medical management. I’m really not keen because I’m worrying about the pain.
That sounds very traumatic for you. How are you doing just now? I wonder if we will do our transfers about the same time (I don’t know know when mine will be yet).

@Daisz that’s so sad. My DD is also very sociable. I’m lucky that she already has a few friends (and I’m friends with their mums) and she has a few cousins. She loves playing with them. Maybe our daughters will meet one day too.
Keep positive! Enjoy this week.

@RonRon1 hope that you’re doing ok today. Make sure you get the rest that you need.

@theotherfossilsister @LouScot also hope you’e both ok! Xxx

RonRon1 · 14/08/2020 07:47

Thanks guys, operation was fine but felt really sick, dizzy and had (still have) really bad abdominal pain. Apparently this can happy, although never last time. I slept most of yesterday, watched a film from 7-9 then slept until 630 this morning, I am working until lunch then straight home to rest! I feel so nervous/excited to hear how things went over night. I just hope we have embryos this morning. I will keep you posted. xxx

theotherfossilsister · 14/08/2020 13:19

@RonRon1 that sounds really hard, but glad you got to relax. When do you hear if they have embryos? It's such an ordeal and I wish there was more certainty, especially after you've gone through an op. Hopefully you will have a few strong ones, and be able to transfer soon, and one of them will grow into a wonderful child. It's such a miracle, when it works, but the uncertainty is hard.

@BeHereNowx32 I hope it goes OK in the hospital. It's so unfair you went through all of that for this to happen. I hope it goes well when you have your next transfer. The whole thing sounds traumatic.

Just realised that when I posted twice the other day I posted two possible time scales, the second one being by far the more optimistic. I guess 36 or 37 are both OK, I just hope my AMH is all right. It is so annoying about the new form. We're going to ring them on October 14th. (Setting an alarm on Google for then and working on forgetting it. Ha!)

@BambiOnIce80 The drugs are actually Cimzia, a bioligic, which alters, rather than supressing your immune system. They've been prescribd for RA and Sjogrens, but if you google their sister drug, Humira, you will see they are sometimes prescribed by fertility clinics too (although people debate the effectiveness of these unless you have a diagnosed autoimmune condition.) It might be worth getting a test though. And you're right that it takes your immune system some time to adjust to the drugs. So far they've just made me very photosensitive, not ideal in a heatwave, especially for a girl who has always tanned, but it's a small thing I guess.

@Daisz thank you for being lovely. I guess storm damage is one of those things, I was used to it in France but not here. It's horrible that other mothers are like that with your daughter. I don't understand why folk are like this.

I'm taking another week away from this thread. Will check back next Friday, and probably will be here the following week, to rage about injustice when my period comes, and someone on Twitter tells me how they got pregnant by just relaxing.

Just going to focus on health, my writing, trying to create a routine, and trying not to let the stress of this cause fights with DP. We argued after the flood damage as we missed fertile day, and I was devastated and wanted to try anyway. Sometimes I do feel, that while we both want children, I am carrying the burden of this infertility thing, and I wish he was a little more proactive, and would take some of the load.

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RonRon1 · 14/08/2020 19:06

I got a call today to say out of the 10 eggs we got 5 embryos today. I was so relived after the call. Last time we had 16 eggs and 5 fertilised so hoping perhaps they are better quality this time, Menapur apparently say it gives less eggs but better quality! Last time we got 1 day 5 grade B blastcyst so I am praying we get to day 5!! Oh it's all so uncertain. Oh i am so full of mixed emotions, worry and excitement.

I am still sore today, when ever i need the toilet it is very very painful so I may call the hospital tomorrow to check that is normal.

Hope you lovely ladies all have nice things planned for the weekend? I am planning to take it nice and easy, walk the dog and eat nice food! xxx

RonRon1 · 14/08/2020 19:18

@theotherfossilsister that sounds like a good idea. There is nothing worse than when people say relax. I remember when round 1 failed my friend said it was probably because I was so stressed and I need to do yogo and make a vision board...

Like I say my other friend just got pregnant first month she tried and although she is respectful to me about it I get enraged at the thought of her partner and her thinking it's funny how quickly they got pregnant. He actually (unknown about our situation) made a comment about how strong his swimmers were. It was very very upsetting even although meant in jest. It is a total lotto, a very unfair lotto. @theotherfossilsister I 100% understand what you are saying about you carrying the lions share of the worry about it.

My sister actually made a comment and it has really stuck with me about how much I am fighting for my baby and I totally get it. I am the one calling chasing the hospital, researching, buying food/vitamins, planning healthy activities etc It is a hard journey you are on and it will test your relationship at times. Men really handle things differently and sometimes it is hard not to snap or get resentful/annoyed. Although they are probably equally as worried but just dont show it. Would you should consider counselling? it helps. As soon as you get your ap with the hospital you get it for free if you want it but there are lots of private people.

BeHereNowx32 · 14/08/2020 19:25

@RonRon1 that is great news!! Everything crossed for them developing to day 5. Definitely take it easy and speak to the hospital. Hope you’re feeling better soon xx

LouScot · 14/08/2020 20:19

@RonRon1 5 embryos is great! Everything crossed.

Looks like it might be decent tomorrow so hope everyone manages to get some sunshine and some peace x

Daisz · 14/08/2020 22:06

@RonRon1 congratulations! That is a fantastic result. Hoping for great blastocysts for you. Hope you feel better soon.xx

BambiOnIce80 · 15/08/2020 09:16

Excellent news that you've got 5 in the running @RonRon1! 🤩 Keeping everything crossed that they keep going strong 🤞Sorry to hear that you're having pain 💐 I was the same after our fresh cycle and the clinic told me to take paracetamol and keeping drinking as much water/herbal tea as possible 🍵 I was dubious, but it did the trick 👍🏻

RonRon1 · 15/08/2020 09:21

Thanks guys. Feeling back to normal today thankfully so much less bloated too yey! I know I want to call today but they said they will call me tomo to update and say if its day 3 and day 5 transfer. Its so silly but I imagine 5 wee embryos with curly hair (husband us very curly) in a dish 😂 I hope we have a we strong one. Happy Saturday guys x

BambiOnIce80 · 16/08/2020 17:04

Glad you're feeling better @RonRon1 🙂 How did today's update go? 🤞

RonRon1 · 16/08/2020 17:26

Hey! Sothe embryologist call to say we still have 5 embryos so will go for a 5 day transfer. They all have the right number of cells but some cells are not equal in size if that makes sense. She said they are better quality than round 1 but aat this stage would be classed as average. I know they never like to get u excited or give u false hope. We are happy tho so fingers crossed on Tuesday we have a blastocyst. Hope u have all had a great weekend x

LouScot · 16/08/2020 18:04

Oh that's good the 5 are still going! I'm sure as you say they don't want to give any false hope, so average is good Grin x

RonRon1 · 16/08/2020 18:43

Yip i'll take average. Can't wait until Tuesday, I have taken the day off work so going to relax! I will keep you posted! Husbands still not allowed in . x

BambiOnIce80 · 16/08/2020 19:29

That's great news @RonRon1! 🤩 Nothing wrong with average - most of the IVF ladies I know who have had health bambini started with an 'average' embie. Keeping everything crossed for you 🤞

BeHereNowx32 · 16/08/2020 20:40

@RonRon1 that’s really good. I’m definitely below average. I’ve never had that many! ;) good luck for the next few days 💕

So... my FIL was just asking me if we would do another fresh cycle if this frozen one doesn’t work. I’ve already had 3, so feel like I probably couldn’t cope with another. But it has got me thinking 🙄 I need to just deal with this one stage at a time tho!

Hope everyone else is good. Xxx

RonRon1 · 17/08/2020 20:03

@beherenow32 you have been through a lot physically and emotionally. Let's hope you don't need to think about it and the next frozen round is a success! Smile

@Daisz sorry I forgot when is ur scan it must be very soon!

@bamie thank u for the support Smile

Not sure how the embryos are today. If we manage to freeze one I will be so happy as it will take off the pressure a little. This weekend was hard as I was so sore. I never wan to have egg retrieval again!!!!

Daisz · 17/08/2020 22:16

@RonRon1 Glad things are progressing nicely for you. Hopefully you will also feel better, and you will get some frosties as well.🤞 my scan is this Friday, as the day is approaching I am beginning to think about it a little more.

@BeHereNowx32 I think the thing with ivf is that it really needs to be dealt with at one step at a time. You have so much to process in the here and now, that thinking so far into the future is counterproductive, not to mention overwhelming.
I know people try and say the right thing, and it gets you thinking sometimes, but a situation like yours is so highly emotional, that even if you were to come to the conclusion that a fresh cycle is the right thing for you to do, making that desicion in this moment is not really practical to your healing and recovery, both emotionally and physically in the here and now. Just focus on getting passed this utterly horrible experience that your going through right now, before you let your mind wander into the "what if's" of a fresh cycle. I know you have another week of scans which just seems so utterly heartbreaking considering the outcome of your cycle. Hoping that this passes quickly for you, so you can begin the healing process.♥️♥️♥️