When can investigations resume? (Scotland.)

[theotherfossilsister]

Just that really, I know it's a difficult time for so many people, but clinics shuttered just as DP finally agreed to get his semen analyisis done. My progesterone was normal, and I have regular periods, so I don't think Clomid would be an option for us. We've been trying for a year and a half, and I am 35 on Saturday.

If we do get a referral, and need IVF, how long will that take? So many questions?

Thanks

Oh @BeHereNowx32 I am so, so sorry to read your update 😢 This process is so f%*#ing cruel. There was no heartbeat at our 11 week scan in March and, even though we know this can happen, nothing can prepare anyone for how devastating it is 💙 Take lots and lots of time for yourself. If you want to talk if/when you're feeling up to it, I'm here (I'm sure we all are).x

@BeHereNowx32 I am so so sorry, just saw your update and I have no words, none that will make it any better!♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

@BeHereNowx32 I am so sorry. I know nothing we say will make you feel any better right now. We are all here for you and hoping next week you get answers. xxxx

Thank you everyone. Just looks like I will be starting again with our last embryo, but I’m not thinking about all that straight away.
I know that it won’t have developed any further next week. I did have a bad feeling xx

I'm so sorry @BeHereNowx32 xxx

I’m so so emotional today 😔
@BambiOnIce80 that must have been very hard to find out at 11 week scan. Xx

I completely understand @BeHereNowx32 💙 The shock is horrific - I've honestly never experienced anything else like it. I work in medical science and had tried to keep myself in check the whole time about what might go wrong, but it still didn't prepare me for it actually happening 💔 I've never known emotional pain like that before 😔

It's going to take time, so please be kind to yourself. Cry whenever you need to - don't hold it in. I'm here if you want me for anything at all.x

Oh @BeHereNowx32, it's horrendous for you and your partner, no wonder your emotional, its awful. However you deal with it we're all here - we can't take away the pain but we can listen if you need to cry, rant or just let things out xx

@BeHereNowx32 I am so sorry and me banging on about this being a lucky thread, I was getting carried away with myself, I really wanted to believe it was so. It is something that we all think about, but the reality is nothing like dreading it.

With my chemical pregnancy I was asked to go back a week later also, just incase something may have changed, I think that was the cruelest part, when I knew deep down it was not to be, I rather they would have just said nope that is definitely it, instead of dragging out the inevitable.♥️♥️

@Daisz don’t be sorry. There’s no way of knowing until the scan.
I have been feeling so sick today. Rubbish how you still get symptoms. I am not with it at all, and making loads of stupid mistakes.
Did have a nice day, but it was tough. Feel like I need a spa weekend and a detox!

How is everyone else doing? Xx

@Beherenow32 I can't imagine how you are feeling. I hope you can plan something nice for the weekend to distract you! Sending lots of love x

Hey everyone. Just to let you all know that I am actually feeling a bit better today. Think I’ve accepted it (and just pretending that none of it happened!). Looking forward to getting my hormones back to normal, and maybe doing FET next year. I don’t want the stress too close to Xmas. Will stay on the thread and keep up to date with how you are all getting on xx

@BeHereNowx32 Glad your feeling better. No one would blame you if you needed to take a bit of time out for yourself. Sending hugs.xx

That's good that you're feeling a bit better @BeHereNowx32 - I was wondering how you were getting on today ❤️ Sounds like a decent plan you've got yourself there too. Please keep in touch.x

How is everyone?
@Daisz how are you keeping?
@RonRon1 how are you with the medication etc?

I have my next scan tomorrow. Really can’t wait to just get it all done. I’ve been feeling awful.-like really pregnant 😫😫 I’m sick, exhausted, hungover feeling, and feeling as though my womb is trying to stretch. It’s obviously all the the hormones in my system.
Emotionally, I am doing better though. I have a wee cry every now and then. But I have definitely accepted it all.

Hope everyone is ok! @LouScot @BambiOnIce80 @theotherfossilsister sorry if I’ve missed anyone xx

Oh @BeHereNowx32 sorry to hear your feeling (physically) shit as well as the emotional side of things. Hopefully the physical side of things will lessen for you as will the emotional pain to some degree xx

Hey @BeHereNowx32, I have been thinking about you, because I know you have your scan tomorrow. I am really sorry you're having to go through that, I know that you will just want to move on and look to the future, hopefully tomorrow can give you some answers. There are so many hurdles to get through during this whole process. I feel like I am just in a little pregnancy bubble at the moment, and I am intending to be that way until a week on Friday until I have my scan, I will probably start worrying closer to the time, but at the moment I feel quite content. Thanks for thinking of everyone, I know it can't be easy. Sending big hugs and healing for tomorrow.♥️♥️♥️

@Daisz good to hear that you feel that way. Being relaxed can only be good.
My DH is off these next couple of weeks which helps! He thinks we should wait to use our (last) frozen embryo in March. So, still a while away. Might be good for letting my body get back to normal I guess!

@LouScot thank you! Ivf can be rubbish! (Has it’s good moments too though) x

I'm sorry the symptoms keep coming @BeHereNowx32 - it's utterly shit 😔 I was the same. My placenta was apparently still going great guns, to the extent that 2 days of medical management didn't work and I had to have surgery as a result. I hope this doesn't happen to you, but I can vouch for the gynae ward at the RIE being really kind ❤️ I'll be thinking of you tomorrow.x

I like the sound of your bubble @Daisz 😊 Will definitely try and take a leaf out of your book if I ever end up with a BFP again 🔮

Still no update from the clinic at my end 😏 I did get a surprise call from Chalmers yesterday though after our EFREC doc suggested having a look into the possibility of me having an 'abnormal vaginal microbiome' (aka I've been plagued by recurrent yeast infections all my adult life). Can cause infertility and miscarriages in a small proportion of people apparently and from the phone consultation yesterday I seem to meet the criteria for that being a possibility. Rang me at 9am and did the phone consultation and then asked me to come in at 11.30am for a physical examination! 😯 Did some there and then microscopy and things are apparently looking nice and healthy 'in there'! 🦠🔬😳😂 I started taking 'feminine' probiotocs on the EFREC docs recommendation in April and the SHO said I'd got the most lactobacillus (good) bacteria she's ever seen... so I guess that's a pretty good endorsement for the (bloody expensive! 💸) probiotocs 😄 Not a yeast cell in sight apparently, which ia a relief 😌 Still terrified of ending up having another MMC (if we can ever manage to get a BFP again), but at least results are looking a little reassuring so far that AVM isn't so likely to be a problem🤞

@BeHereNowx32 sending you love for tomorrow. I hope this doesn't upset you me asking but is there still a chance it could be good news tomorrow if you are still having symptoms? I read that sometimes you wont hear a heat beat or see the fetal cord until a little later?

Things are going ok with my treatment. I am on Menopur which has been kinder to my body then the previous drug. Trigger shot tonight and retrieval on Thursday. Husband not allowed in of course :( 9 straws of sperm frozen so trying to be positive. The Mindful IVF app is amazing and i really feel different this time. (as in more relaxed and mentally together)

@BambiOnIce80 I am so glad you are feeling a little more reassured.

@Daisz when is your scan again? That is great you are in a wee bubble,

@BambiOnIce80 I suppose that it’s good to get a positive result from that test. Good to keep an eye on your overall health! That’s a shame that you haven’t heard anything about your treatment yet. Can they give you any updates? Keep looking after yourself!! ❤️

@RonRon1 the doctor said that it’s very unlikely that there will be a heartbeat next scan. It is crazy though, because I am getting symptoms, but like Bambi said, I could still have a placenta etc developing in there, which makes the body produce the HCG 😕 I’m probably not going to take the medication in the morning, then it’s one day sooner to getting it out of my system!

Such a shame that your husband can’t go in. Listen to your mindful app while you’re waiting for retrieval. Hopefully that helps keep you calm xx
Will let you know how tomorrow goes! X

Hi. An internal scan still showed no heartbeat. I need to go for an abdominal scan this afternoon to confirm again! But I can stop the medication now. Thankfully!
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I was wondering how you'd gotten on @BeHereNowx32 💙 Is the abdominal scan at the EPU? They were really lovely when I had to go in and talk through our 'options'. I'm still here and thinking of you.x

That seems to have gone quickly @RonRon1! 😯 Good luck for tomorrow 🍀

@Beherenowx32 just saw your updates. I don't know what to say, except it must be so so hard and I am sorry, and desperately hope it works for you next time. You will always mourn this baby who you both knew and didn't know, but I hope the next one works and you get a beautiful wonderful child. If you would like to go for a walk or coffee I would love to meet you but totally get you might not be up for this. Why is this process so cruel?

@Daisz thank you for your lovely message when I was feeling down. We spoke to the people at the Edinburgh unit and apparently they are making a new form, so our referral isn't live yet. How I wish we'd got the ball rolling in March. I imagine we will get referral in October, be seen in about May, and then maybe another year for IVF, although horribly conscious that in two years I will be thirty seven.

Ovulating today, and planned a lovely romantic evening last night, which unfortunately ended with us both in wellies scooping flood water from dp's parents' basement and trying to unblock a drain as thunder and lightning raged above. It's month twenty anyway, but my new arthritis medicine made me hopeful, as if infertility is autoimmune this might fix it. I guess this cycle wasn't meant to be. Still hoping. Always hoping then always dashed when period comes.

Just wrote a huge long reply to everyone then lost it.

@Beherenowx32 I am so sorry, this must be so hard for you. I hope next time it works although you will always mourn this baby who you knew and didn't know. This whole process is cruel. If you want to go for a walk round Edinburgh or a cup of tea, just let me know, I totally get you might not want to though.

Thank you all for the lovely messages when I was down the other week. Currently in fertile week (first one since starting Cimzia) and was hopeful that a new RA medicine would help as I think our infertility is autoimmune. I planned a lovely romantic evening last night, but it wasn't to be, and we ended up spending the night scooping water out if pils basement, and trying to unblock an overflowing drain while thunder and lightning raged above.

Our referral isn't done yet as they need to make a new form and even the sperm lab is still closed, so we're calling back after October holiday. I guess if we're referred October, then realistically we'd be seen in May, then as I'll be over thirty six another six months to start IVF? My focus is going to be getting as healthy, mentally and physically, as possible, so say if we begin November 2021 we have the best chance, but also so I have the emotional resources to deal with the stress and accept the possibility of it not working, while creating the best circumstances I can for it to work. I think you need to be really strong to do IVF and I am so in awe of all of you who've done it.