TWW Jan/Feb 2020

[41trying]

This is for ladies in there TWW that would like to chat and have a little support!

[Feline123]

The first thing I did was check my heart rate too 😂 but surely it would be too early at this stage?

I actually don’t know the grade of my embryo - I had 2 left at time of transfer, they chose the better one obvs but as it was at stage 2 (they said it was time of day as to why it wasn’t at a better stage) they couldn’t grade it yet. However my frozen one ended up being a 4ab so I’m hoping the embryo transferred is better than that one! That being said, the not knowing is kinda nice cos I can’t obsess about it and google others experiences with the same grading! Still on a bit of a downer, think I’ll watch some comedy shows this evening!!

[UnicornPuff]

I have been watching my HR even though I shouldn't! I didnt realise it was only 8 beats!

@MissHoney1985 same as me! I had a blastocyst and morula transferred. When I asked about the grade of the blast they said it was in such an early stage from morula they couldn't grade the internal cells but the 1 being good and 2 being bad it was a 2 😭 I am 31 on my first IVF attempt which like you said makes me convinced they almost did a transfer to make me feel a little better!

[Bestofyou1982]

Hi ladies,
I'm having some uncomfortable cramping and left leg pains today. Had FET yesterday. Anyone else experienced similar? Apologies if already covered in thread above.
Test date was recommended as 3rd February, seems soooooo far away.

[Littlelot]

Hi Everyone

Waiting til Saturday is sooo hard - I was feeling quite patient and just resigned to whatever will be will be at the start and not I’m trying not to notice every back ache or tummy wierd feeling but can’t help it they seem so pronounced! So tempted to test if I get to Friday with no AF as Saturday is my birthday and I’m not sure i want to test and then have to see / speak to lots of people as I think I’m going to be so emotional either way. But if I test Friday I still have to go to school and see students 😫. Feel like I’m going to come on though - not sure why - maybe just like everyone above finding it hard to stay positive.

@BambiOnIce80 I completely get that desire just to have an answer. I’ve managed to convince myself that maybe I just have an inhospitable womb 😆. Out of 9 eggs collected 6made it to 5day blasts and were frozen and then our first FET did implant so I figure maybe the problem is that somehow sperm and egg just are not meeting. But as you say what’s the point in trying to work out answers that the specialists can’t find out. It was so frustrating when being scanned for the FET as they were so positive about how my body was doing just as it was meant to and the egg was growing well and my lining was wonderful and part of me just wanted to turn around and have a little tantrum because my body quite clearly was not doing exactly as it was supposed to! But I didn’t I smiled nicely and wondered if I should feel proud of my wonderful lining.

Did not know about the heart beat thing! Mine would be useless as it increases the more I monitor it! In hospital when they put the machine on to take my pulse the rate just goes up and up the longer it’s on.

Ah well just keep going. Anyone else play the Dory song in their head? Just keep swimming, just keep swimming. Think it’s my life motto at the minute.

[Haych1985]

Bestofyou1982 my test date is also 3rd fab 😳 although my friend got her faint on day 6 with a singleton!
But I darent even test because I'm scared of the result, I have brought a early clear blue test which is meant to give results 6 days before period due date

I'm feeling twinges, I no it could be from the pessaries but that was 10pm lastnight and I haven't done tonight's yet would I still get twinges I'm not sure

I've been eating pineapple and drinking pineapple juice as it's meant to be good for blood flow I guess it won't do me any harm if it's all rumours

[UnicornPuff]

How strict is everyone doing their progesterone timings? I was super strict with the timing for my injections but the clinic said it didnt matter too much with the progesterone so I have just been doing when I get up and when I go to bed. Now I am thinking rather than 12 hourly it can be about 17 hours if I do that.

[BambiOnIce80]

Sorry if mentioning the resting heart rate thing has caused some crazy making! 😬 I've still managed to be strong and not look at mine 💪 It was an athlete that I was talking to that said there's had gone up by 8 before she'd even POAS, but I think it goes up by 10 - 20 bpm in the first month 💗

You've absolutely got a better than zero chance @MissHoney85! As I say, I know someone who had 2 'less than average' quality embies put back (her words, not mine) and she's currently 16 weeks pregnant with a singleton 🤞🏻 One of my embies was morula on day 5 too, but they gave it to day 6 and it managed to make the jump to blastocyst and is now frozen ❄️ So yours might have just been a day behind too (same goes for you @UnicornPuff !).x

I hope you enjoyed your comedy shows @Feline123?

I had cramping the evening of ET @Bestofyou1982, but I put that down to the after effects of the catheter touching the womb lining (I had the same after the practice transfer). No leg pain to report though 🤔

I was completely 'che sera, sera' going into this cycle @Littlelot , but that attitude has very much so left the building at this stage! 😂 I do seem to be getting it back a bit though - just keep reminding myself that we can fill up between now and the end of May (when a FET could happen) with lots of lovely non-pregnant activities that we've been putting off because of this cycle... it's helping a bit 😊 When you should test sounds like a tough one! I know I couldn't cope with going to work after getting a BFN (or even a BFP for that matter! 😂), so I think I'd wait until Saturday in your situation - if it's a BFP then it'd be the best birthday present ever! 🎁😄

The progesterone from the pessaries is in our systems the whole time @Haych1985 , so it's really tricky to know whether any cramps are because of our womb linings thickening from the progesterone or because an embie is making itself at home - so frustrating! 😤

@UnicornPuff I'm on 200mg 3 times a day and they said I could take it every 6 to 8 hours, so there's quite a lot of flexibility in that! ⌚ I'm taking it every 8 hours though because my scientific OCD loves symmetry! 🤓

I went to acupuncture last night to try and chill/calm down about it all, but kind of ended up having a row heated discussion with my acupuncturist! 😕 I was telling her about my worries about my infertility possibly being to do with dodgy implantation and she started almost strong arming me into going to London to a private clinic for uNK tests and all manor of other things that I'm not down with 😕 We had this discussion when I very first started going to her - I read the scientific papers she recommended, I pulled them apart (they contradicted each other!), sent her a paper from the royal college of obs and gynae called "first do no harm" that went into great detail about the holes in the tests she was advocating, pointed out the HFEA had the tests down as 'red' on their traffic system and as such I wouldn't be bloody paying for them 😡 We agreed to disagree (this was ages ago and all has been fine since), but she's gone as far to say last night "Bambi, I'll be really annoyed and find it difficult to treat you if you don't look into/have these investigations", so I think we'll be parting ways if it comes to a FET!! It's a shame, because I like her style of acupuncture, but I'm not going to bloody pay for something that's not scientifically sound!

... I slept a lot better last night though! 😂

[Feline123]

Sorry for the tmi here, (so skip past this if you don’t wanna know!) but I have yet another worry! To put it politely, I’ve just had the opposite problem of constipation.... feeling completely fine but all of a sudden, tummy rumbled and I had to go! It was really loose too....I know I shouldn’t but I’ve been googling and can’t find anything to reassure me that this is not a bad sign 😢 I’m 5dp5dt. Anyone know if it’s something to worry about?!

Wow @BambiOnIce80 she sounds pushy too! Good job you the common sense not to take her word for it!

[BambiOnIce80]

@Feline123 I had that happen to me on the evening after ET and I assumed it was something I'd eaten... but maybe not now you're saying that! 🤔

Talking of signs, I was doing my own head in with it all so I decided to double check what should be happening in there with a 5dt embie. I came across this link that I've found pretty helpful for calming down because it says at what 'day' implantation should occur and same for when hCG should start being released... if any of you think knowing that kind of stuff would make the crazy worse, then please don't click on it! 🤪

www.conceptfertility.co.uk/2017/05/31/what-happens-after-an-embryo-transfer/amp/

And I was shocked at how pushy my acupuncturist was too! 😲 She's not normally like that at all, but those tests clearly bring out the mega bitch in her! Problem is, I feel really strongly about them too... just a shame that I think the total opposite of her! 🙄

[FlapJackered]

Hi ladies,
1dp5dt so I will be joining you now the symptom spotting has begun (despite my best intentions to be chilled out and ignore all twinges! 🙈).

Is anyone else absolutely exhausted? I am on some extra drugs (yay more injections for me!) so it might just be them. Just haven't functioned at all today!

@BambiOnIce80 that is a really helpful link. Good to know when we can expect things to happen, and know when 'symptoms' might actually be proper symptoms!
That is really frustrating with the acupuncturist, mine can be quite opinionated too, not what you need when it is meant to be a relaxing experience!

@UnicornPuff I haven't been that strict with timings on progesterone just when I wake up and go to sleep then I have to take a 3rd early afternoon.

[Sarab2020]

Hi everyone,
Hope you are all ok?
So started our TWW yesterday after having FET, the 4th Feb feels so far away 😫

[Haych1985]

Hi ladies is anyone planning on testing early at all

I'm doing my own head in and I'm only 3dp lol

[Haych1985]

Where are we all from and what clinics have we used? 😊 baby dust ⭐️

[41trying]

Evening all, I hope everyone is not too stressed on the TWW. 8dp3dt for me today. Over the last couple of days I have felt nothing at all. Its driving me quite mad as there is nothing I can do. I hate waiting and not being in control

[UnicornPuff]

I have tried not to symptom spot but ......... I have very sore boobs. And my complete logical brain is telling me this is because I am taking progesterone. However my obsession is telling me you have been taking it for 8 days why would it suddenly start today 😂🤣 and so my descent into madness begins!

@BambiOnIce80 just wow! I am surprised that she is so insistent on pushing something that is labelled red! Tell her you respect her opinion and you have done your research which has shown you that there is inadequate research for you to feel comfortable.

@Haych1985 I am trying not to test early, but knowing me I probably will! We are using victoria wing, woking.

@41trying it's awful! I go insane when there is something and just as crazy when there isn't 🤯

[MissHoney85]

@UnicornPuff I am at the Victoria Wing too! Must have been three a couple of days before you ☺️ I like the clinic a lot. I'll like them more if this works! My boobs hurt a lot for a week or so after trigger. They're still bigger than normal (not hard 😂) but not as sore. A bit itchy today though, which I'm trying not to analyse too much - obviously unsuccessfully!

[Haych1985]

I live in Grimsby and I am using hull clinic 😊
So some of u only have a few days left to wait now!! Xx

[FlapJackered]

I am Bristol ABC clinic.
Lots of you are almost at test day! I am jealous 😬
Keeping everything crossed for lots of bfps in the next few days 🤞🤞🤞

[BambiOnIce80]

Exactly @FlapJackered @UnicornPuff , acupuncture is supposed to be for relaxing, not lecturing! 😕 My day job is science and if they're recommending a non-NICE/HFEA test then I'm going to read the bloody study paper and make my own mind up thanks! 🤓 The tests she's recommending are about £899 (last time I checked) and god knows how much the 'treatment' would be if they decided you met their criteria for the thing that isn't proven yet/if ever - and the 'treatment' carries the risk of harm to the foetus! 🤯 They should be paying me £899 for the pleasure of having a genuine non-egg/fertilisation issue patient in their sodding research study! 🤑 Ok. I'm going to stop ranting about the acupuncture lady now 😂

I struggled to get out of bed this morning @FlapJackered , but that might just be because it's Friday 😄 I've been pretty alright otherwise 👍 Have you been able to take it easy or are you back at work?

Welcome @Sarab2020 👋 I'm not going to lie - this particular TWW is proving to be a killer! 😩 Good luck 🍀

After reading the link above @Haych1985 there's no way I'm going to do a HPT before my blood test (at 9dp5dt) - it says you're highly likely to get a false BFN if you test on or before 10dp5dt. Fight the urge! 😉 We're up in Edinburgh at the Simpsons centre (only a 15 minute drive for us so it's been super convenient 😊).

The lack of control is wrecking my head too @41trying 💐 When are you going to test?x

I've got the boobs too @UnicornPuff , but I'm only an A cup and they've been tender ever since the end of gonal-f 😏 Oddly though, the skin under my nose and below my mouth towards my chin has gone all flakey (far from nice! 😳). It's apparently not a side effect of the progesterone and it's not even cold up here, so no idea what that's all about 🤷‍♀️ I've also had a niggly little dull ache on the right hand side of my lower abdomen that's worse when I walk fast... yes, my inner symptom spotting psycho has finally been let loose! 🤪 I've put an Allways in my bag today, just in case what it's all actually a symptom of is impending AF 😏 Not got the itching though @MissHoney85! Anywhere in particular that I should be keeping an eye out for?! 😄

What did you decide about testing in the end @Littlelot? Fingers crossed for you 🤞🏻🍀

[Feline123]

My clinic have told me to test at 10dp5dt.... I hope it’s not too early 😣

[41trying]

Morning ladies and welcome newbies.
Today is 9dp3dt and OTD 30th cant come soon enough, think I have had enough now.
I will buy a test fir maybe tuesday of next week and just do it and save the clinic test for OTD. I am at Care Birmingham.

[Rovera12]

Good morning ladies, welcome to all the new members. How’s everyone doing ?

Yesterday was a tough day for me as I had very severe cramps and thought my AF was showing up this morning, the cramps were that bad that I panicked and lost my appetite.
My head was like it’s 5days after transfer can it be implantation cramp, I thought implantation happens early with a 5 day embryo? The cramp is mild now all I can do is hope and pray for the best outcome.
I am at Barts Hospital Newham.

[Bestofyou1982]

Morning ladies, some are getting really close to testing days now. 🤞
I went back to work yesterday and it was awful, so stressful. Worse day I've had in years at work, didn't get a minute and even an aggressive parent shouting at me so loudly the office could hear through a closed door. Not the calm work day I had planned. Was still writing up incidents at 8pm so all logged. As such I've not gone in today and said I'll take unpaid leave if needed. I've read the first few days are important for implantation. Feel guilty not going in which is causing stress but also know I should be practising self care.And ultimately it's just a job. Lots of cramping through the night, hoping all normal and along stressful day hasn't caused some issues.
I'm Nottingham with Nurture.
And relax...
Anyone testing today or this weekend? 🍀

[41trying]

Shall we have a recap on where everyone is
I'll start
Today is 9dp3dt. As I had a 3 day not 5 as there was only one egg my OTD is 30/01

[BambiOnIce80]

The link said that some patients might get a false BFN @Feline123 , so it's just the way my brain works that I'd leave it another day to try and avoid it! 😂

If you test Tuesday we can be testing buddies @41trying! 😍 Your result will be a lot more instant though - I'll have to wait until the afternoon to get mine 😏 Recap wise I'm 5dp5dt of a single embie, OTD 28.02.20.

That does sound like a tough day @Rovera12 💐 Just because it's potentially a day behind what's predicted doesn't mean it's not implantation at all. It could also be that the embie has implanted and is settling in and getting busy making the placenta 🤞 I know it's impossible not to worry, but cramps don't necessarily mean AF.x

You've absolutely got to do you @Bestofyou1982 👍 Work isn't worth putting this whole process at risk, so I don't blame you ❤️

... I'm still getting this little, tiny dull ache on my lower right hand side. I'm going to be all kinds of gutted when this proves to be the beginnings of AF! 😩