IVF/ICSI (2) - A supportive group of ladies at various stages of the ivf/icsi journey

[Starlumiere]

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@Janefx40 yes I'm so sorry Jane wrapped up in my own drama. How are you feeling today? Deflated and angry I imagine!

@Liverpool19 I think if it's cramping on it's own I wouldn't be so worried. I guess the only thing that makes me hopeful is that I already had spotting the whole time and I didn't suddenly get cramping and have blood together.

I ended up calling 111 and he said the out of hours doctor will ring me back within two hours to assess me further.

At least you might be able to get some answers\help off someone soon hoppy I’d say take it easy today and not let your mind work overtime but I know that’s easier said than done!! Xx

I hope you get some answer soon hoppy!
Just have a question. I am a bit confused as what to do.
So, woke up this morning and I had spotting and some blood when wiping. I rang the clinic as I thought this must be CD1 but they said it has to be a full flow before 3pm.
I checked again at 1pm and there was maybe half a teaspoon on the pad and then I couldn't check until 6pm as we were driving in the car. By that stage I would say that it was a full bleed but who knows when it started to fully bleed.
So my question is. Do I count today as CD1 or not. I am due to start gonal f on day 3 and don't want to get it wrong.

So I have been to the out of hours GP. He looked at me and listened to what I said and said it sounded a lot like I was miscarrying. Unfortunately nothing they can do, he was very nice about it (had a full on cry in his room). Said if the blood stops then probably should still go for scan Monday but if not, and he thinks it's unlikely to, then it may not be worth going all the way to London. So that's that. Pretty devastated, it's taken us 18 months to get to this point because of all the waiting and testing and this was our only viable embryo.

DH is away and doesn't know I've been to doctor, unsure whether to tell him but selfishly could do with a bit of emotional support. The only other person that knows I was pregnant is my mum and she's in another country.

@hoppy1985 I miscarried in December and a few things I have read from your messages are similar to mine, BUT and this is a big BUT a lot of women bleed red and brown and font miscarry!!! So yes it is very tough, and yes it is awful to be in limbo, and yes you might be miscarrying or YOU MIGHT BE PERFECTLY FINE !!! So don’t despair or give up on your chances to go to terms ok? It is not a miscarriage until it is one. I promise you, I know it did happen to me and they were 2, but so many people bleed all their pregnancies or until a few weeks and from the very beginning.

Try to do things you love and control your mind. You have done all you can, trust your body. Not a great position to be in, I know, but there is still hope!!!! Ok?

Ping me if you feel you need to, you aren’t on your own 🌟✨💫🍀🙏🏻.

Lots of love😘😘😘

Obviously font is don’t 😂😂😂😂

Thanks @Starlumiere I know I just have very little hope now. I was supposed to be seeing a friend tonight but can't face it so I'll just snuggle up on the sofa with the dogs and try and watch some lighthearted films to take me mind off it. Thanks my love, I will do. Unable to contact DH anyway it seems xx

Oh @Hoppy1985 I'm so sorry. Of course no one knows for sure. My friend was bleeding heavily (properly heavily) throughout her last pregnancy and had a healthy girl but then she was on blood thinners.

I think I would probably go for the scan anyway if I were you, it's worth the trip to find out what is happening.

As for me. They rang and told us to take a small injection of hcg and upped my estrogen and progesterone dose. I think they are trying to keep the option of a fresh transfer alive in case we have nothing likely to get to day 5. But from reading online studies we are in uncharted waters. They have only ever tested the benefits of taking an hcg injection for this situation on the day of EC. No one had studied taking it the next day. So they are utter idiots. DP is depressed and miserable. I swing between anger and action.

What a waste of time. It may have been free but honestly, not worth it even so

Xxx

Oh hoppy I feel for you I really do. I would still go for my scan on Monday just so they can double check. It’s not over until you have been told it’s over! Don’t give up hope just yet. This is one of the main reasons I haven’t told any family I just have 3 close friends I’ve told. I don’t want them to be all excited and the unfortunate happens. Have some chocolate and watch a film anything to take your mind off it.

jane free or not they shouldn’t make mistakes like that. How many women do they deal with each day. You would of thought they would of been able to get it right for you!

Xx

@Liverpool19 only my mum knows, although I'm around my family a lot and I think my dad and the boys suspect as I'm usually a bit of a wino/gin lover. I've had my cry now (I have given myself a headache) so if it's not meant to be then so be it. One thing is that I wasn't sure if we would try again if this round didn't work (because the longer it takes the more physically difficult I will find early motherhood due to my condition being progressive). I now know that I'm determined to keep going.

I totally agree with @Liverpool19 . It doesn't matter if it's free @Janefx40 they shouldn't have any bearing on it. They've a duty of care in what is already an emotional and physical rollercoaster and they haven't fulfilled it. Not okay. all my love.

I’m the same hoppy live a little wine or processo and I’ve been avoiding everyone like crazy 😂 no matter what has happened with this one, as you say you know are prepared to go again. And also you know you can get pregnant even if you do need help. That’s what I was most scared of, not knowing If my body would ever get pregnant. Xx

Hi everyone, just thought I'd drop in and say a quick hello.

I haven't managed to read all the recent posts but just wanted to say sorry Hoppy and i really hope it's not a MC, such a worrying and upsetting time

PonyPals, so glad you're about to start your next cycle. I wish you all the luck in the world. Re when is CD1, it might be beat to speak to your clinic - I'm pretty sure my day was similar to yours and it was my CD1 but i don't think I'd been given the 3pm cut off.

jane, sounds like a nightmare - as others have said,free or not, it's not the point. Best of luck with this cycle.

Good luck to everyone else too. I have my booking in appointment this week and then finally get my scan in a couple of weeks time. Just praying everything is ok - still feeling a mix of shock, delight and fear!

Sorry pony can’t help with your question.

swim I have my booking in appointment Monday! Your doing brilliant! Keeping everything crossed for you. Xx

You too Liverpool, when's your scan? I'm starting to get a serious bump (probably more the food to counter the nausea than actual baby!!) - by the time i get to my scan i am going to look about 6 months pregnant!!

So lovely some of you have scans coming up! Puts all the stress into perspective. Good luck @swimchick1980 and @Liverpool19

@PonyPals my old clinic counts full flow before 12pm as day 1. My current counts any full flow. I don't think it matters too much. They can probably start stims on days 1-4 anyway. If in doubt ask them

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I’ve not got my scan date yet swim my letter said I will get it when I see the midwife on Monday. Haha I haven’t really been eating that badly I don’t think some stuff the look of it makes me want to vomit. I’ve not actually been sick but felt it 🙈
Thank you jane xx

Thank you Jane.

It's so funny how every clinic and every NHS district is different! My scan is 2 weeks after booking in so hopefully yours will be similar. I can't stop eating salt and vinegar peanuts, ginger snaps and bread!!

Hi ladies, sorry I didn't get back to you all yesterday. It was testing day and it was a positive. Told the clinic and now just waiting for a date to have a scan. Anyone know roughly when this takes place? Even though we are both really happy (we have been trying to conceive for a very long time) I still feel so anxious and just can't stop thinking that something is going to go wrong. To the point my husbands stopped me googling / looking at forums. No major symptoms just very sore boobs and cramping on and off.

Jane I am so sorry about what your clinic is putting you through. IVF is such an emotional and stressful process and we put all of trust in the doctors that to make a mistake like this is terrible. I really hope you go ahead and make a complaint about them. Fingers crossed with the next step x

Hoppy I'm sorry to hear what a stressful weekend you have. Have you called your husband for some emotional support? Xx

Great news winnie my clinic scanned me on 8 weeks exactly but something I’ve learnt on this forum, is every clinic is different!! X

It's such a long wait isn't it. Well it feels like it anyway. Must make lots of plans and sleep lots to make the time go by quickly

Congratulations @Winnie56 I can understand you feeling anxious but I'm so pleased for you even so. The best result you can have at this stage is a positive test so that is a massive tick in the box even if there are other boxes to tick before the journey is over.

@Hoppy1985 how are you today?

We went into the clinic today. They were very apologetic. We are now under the consultant so hey, one way to get better care is to have them screw up! Our embies are developing unevenly - the decision is that if any can be frozen we should do that and go for FET. However is any can't be frozen but are still progressing in some way, we will do a fresh transfer on Tuesday just in case.

The embryologist said she wouldn't expect more than 1 or 2 to get to freezing stage from where we are now so we just have to cross fingers.

Xxx

@Winnie56 that's great news. I will keep everything crossed for you. Stay positive!

@Janefx40 honestly? I've been in agony all day, still bleeding. So I've been bleeding red blood since Tuesday, more heavily and with cramp since 5.30 Friday evening. Constantly today but still haven't passed any large clots or anything like doctor said to look for. I would just like it to be over, seems so cruel that it should go on for so long

@Winnie56 hubby is back now but I feel so bad for him because there isn't anything he can do to help.

@Hoppy1985 I'm so sorry. This is just hellish for you. I'm glad you hubbie is there with you now. Sending lots of love. Sorry I can't do more x

@hoppy. I’m glad you’re dh is back with you now. At least you’ve got someone with you. Are you going to ring the clinic today?

@jane when will you know about your transfer? Today Or tomorrow? At least you’ve got a consultant to moan at now. I really hope things go the way you want them to!

Massive congrats @winnie ! It must be a real mixture of emotions!

I’m 6dp5dt today and so far I’ve managed to stop myself from testing. I’m trying to stay positive. Some days are easier than others. Me and DH have been ill overnight though - bad stomachs and nausea. Must have been something we ate. I’ve tried to drink lots of water but can’t help worry this might affect my chance. Especially as they tell you to be so careful with food! Can’t understand what it was though! I’ll blame DH cooking!

Hi @Elly1685 I don't think food poisoning will affect your chances. The embie isn't getting anything directly from your blood stream yet and having diarrhoea shouldn't disrupt your uterine lining. If you had cramps they will be in a different place.

Sorry you're sick but I think you are still in with the same chance. Fingers crossed. Not long now until your test day.

Xxx