TTC 18 months or more -moving on to IUI/IVF/ICSI part 3

[bluebird3]

We have relocated from the conception board where we were previously chatting under the thread 'ttc for 10 months or more'. A lot of us are now long term ttc-ers and are going through infertility treatment or looking to take steps in this direction so we feel this might be a more suitable home for us!

Feel free to stop by and say hi and hopefully we can share the journey together and make it a little easier along the way!

lizzy I'm so sorry to hear this. Many of us have had mcs and when it's after fertility treatment it can feel a very cruel part of all this. Sending hugs.

Thank you for saying that bluebird. I was very low yesterday, but I'm trying to count my blessings and stay a little bit positive for the future. I'm rationalising it a little bit by thinking that perhaps the body knows best and if it wasn't a viable bunch of cells now perhaps it's best to not draw it out - it'd probably be worse if I lost it at a later date.
One rather additional frustrating part of it is that we can't do IUI again this month now - they think a pause is best to help hormone levels return to normal.
I think one of the worst bits is sort of blaming myself - like what if I'd been less stressed at work/ not eaten all that carb/ been less excited and energetic etc. Perhaps there is a reason for things though, and if I do get a positive result again then maybe I'll be more calm and collected.
How is everyone else getting on? x

Aw Lizzy I'm so sorry to hear this. Please dont blame yourself. You did nothing wrong. Rest and allow yourself time to grieve.

I've had a week from hell at work with a lot of stress but that's the holidays are here now. It's still a waiting game for me just now. I was speaking to 2 kids in my class as they were leaving and explaining that they had a letter for parents to tell them that I will no longer be their teacher next year as the HT decided to change the classes last minute. This meant me moving furniture and setting up classroom twice as I had already been moved. They asked if it was good news and I said it was good and bad news and one of them got really excited and said 'you are pregnant, aren't you?'. I said not yet and they said they thought I was because I go to a lot of appointments and I would be a lovely mum. I've never told the children about any appointments. I think it's amazing that they notice these things.

Hang in there Lizzy! X

I’m really sorry to hear that Lizzy. I have had three of those situations it’s awful, that’s why I am so negative now I just can’t let myself believe it until I have a baby one day.
Hang in there and keep strong, we are all still going after horrific times too so do not give up but take this time to relax have a glass of wine as you have To have a break.inwent straight from my IUI MC to ivf and this pregnancy and it’s been a bit draining! I know it’s hard to have a month out though as I always feel like
I need to be doing something but if doc says you have to then nothing you can do.

Big hugs and you chochaw and everyone. We got this! X

Ummm had written long post, but seem to have lost it

@lizzy I'm so sorry, live can be so cruel

@ttc sorry to hear your news, but still keeping everything crossed for you.

@choc yay for holidays!!!

@blue sorry you didn't get on better with the acupuncture. Dh admitted to me this week that he really didn't like the few sessions he went to. Different stokes for different folks I guess. Here's the link to the nutritionist video m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1754647247963652&id=124541190974274

AF started this morning, really short cycle this time round (23 days) But I'd already suspected that I hadn't oved this month, so that explains it I guess.

Hi everyone, back from holiday now and catching up.

@Lizzysmi so sorry to hear that - it really sucks

@ttc1london so sorry to hear of the loss of your twin. Still hoping for your remaining one - keeping my fingers crossed for you

@Chochaw that's so sweet of your pupils. Must be hard hearing the question though

@bluebird3 - ha I couldn't stop thinking of the same scene when I went to acupuncture too! I know it really helps some people but I decided ultimately it wasn't really for me

@angelazul sorry for AF - it's even worse when she's unpredictable!

Hi to everyone else

I had an ultrasound yesterday and they confirmed my lining is now thick enough to do FET next week. They are defrosting our embryo on Wed and doing the transfer on Thursday. Have just started on the progesterone pessaries this morning. Eek. Excited but nervous. This is the furthest we have got towards actually transferring an embryo!

Oh and also: I'm changing jobs and need medical clearance for my new one. Have an interview on Tuesday with a nurse. Really worried about straying too much into discussion of IVF - I had to disclose it since they want to know about any hospital appointments and procedures. Think I am going to try to stick with the facts and ask them if they really need to know anything about future plans. It's a desk job after all so it seems a little excessive!

Thanks for the link angel. I'll check it out.

That's exciting orangefolly! It always feels a bit exciting and a bit terrifying to get going again.

I've had a surprise this morning. Every month I think I have implantation bleeding and then it carries on till my period and I know it's just my messed up period. But this time it stopped after a day and my boobs have felt really weird. And this happened...

Oh my goodness bluebird - those look like really wonderful lines! Whoopie! Congratulations! :-)

Thanks lizzy. It's very early days but I'm trying to be hopeful.

Holy smoke @blue what a beautiful sight to wake up to a Sunday morning, congratulations! Have you ever had a bfp without treatment before? Best get those thyroid levels checked again asap.

Amazing news @bluebird !! I know like me you’re mega negative (understandably!) but this could be it!! 🤞🏻🤞🏻

I had another bleed yesterday eurgh another internal clot. Still a heartbeat but sac wasn’t looking great so I may lose this one too. Feel like if it’s not working out I want it to be over so I can move on! X

angel We've been trying for 39 months and I've never had a natural bfp before. I still don't quite believe it. Af isn't due till Thursday.

I have day 3, 21 bloods booked and a scan that I need to cancel now. I need to ring about my thyroid as well.

ttc it's so hard isn't it? It feels extremely scary to have to wait and see if it's a viable pregnancy. I really wish we could jump forward and know if it's going to work or not. Hang in there.

Keeping things firmly crossed for you guys.

I've had a weird morning - had a call from fertility hospital to say that the hcg they took as routine to check it's gone down from 17 back to normal went up to 27 yesterday. Not viable pregnancy level but does make me a little worried about ectopic. Overthinking every abdominal twinge I get. Got to have more blood taken this week. It's never simple is it!

I'm sorry lizzy that's really annoying. I had a possible ectopic and it's so unfair when after a mc you just want it to be over. Try to relax until you go back. Even with the hcg numbers rising at that low number it's unlikely to burst and cause complications. Good to keep an eye on it though. I think I had 12 blood tests with my mc. It's no fun!
For me it cleared up on its own so hoping the same for you.

Thank you bluebird - that's reassuring. 12 blood tests sounds miserable - poor you. I'm so hoping your positives are the start of something wonderful for you now. Random question: has anyone tried progesterone (crinone) vaginal cream? I didn't get on with it very well this month (first go - prescribed by fertility hospital) and now I'm wondering if my misuse might have been a contributing factor to sudden end of pregnancy. Just a thought. Hope everyone is having a nice Sunday evening.

Lizzy I tried the cream but I honestly don’t think it’s strong enough, it’s 20mg and the pessaries I take are 400mg and sometimes I am on 3 a day so 1200! Maybe ask to her your progesterone checked next time and if below 100 ask for the pessaries? Normal pregnancies look for around 40+ but my clinic likes 150, mine seems to be 1300 oddly this time, normally it’s low!

Congrats and good luck @bluebird. Gives me hope.

Our follow up appointment to find out my re-done blood test results and his second SA result isn't until the end of September! Apparently if they still think ICSI is the right thing then, they will send us directly to start that treatment on my next cycle. But this 3 month wait feels so long I am considering going private. It's already taken 3 months to get to this point on the NHS, with blood tests being done on the wrong day, re-done etc.

They told us to keep phoning them to see if there are any cancellations so we can get an appointment sooner. Seems a ridiculous process to have to do that every day just in case.

Feeling frustrated.

@thund4rcat I still haven’t heard back oknmy NHS referral from
March! Since gone private. So slow :-(

Afm, so had another bleed this weekend, had a scan this morning and basically the disappearing twin has reappeared with s fetal pole but no heartbeat (7 Weeks now and it’s only 3mm should be 7) and be one with the heartbeat still has a heartbeat but has no grown in 5 days, measuring at 4.5mm still, should be 7mm. He told me there’s 99% I’m miscarrying but odd that the heartbeat is still going for now. I always knew this would end badly, it must be chromosomal so I think I need to get my Frosties PGS tested. I am wishing you all better luck. Dreading Thursday when they confirm it’s the end and I have to decide between natural or D&C, any advice on this ladies? X

Sorry my English is terrible in that message I was walking! X

Fantastic @bluebird1 - what a wonderful surprise!

@Thund4rcat the waiting is a nightmare isn't it. It took so long to get through the tests in my area and then they told me it was a year's wait on NHS! Went private, feel much better for having some control over the timing

@ttc1london - oh no I'm so sorry - must be incredibly stressful not knowing.

@lizzysmi I hope they get to the bottom of it soon for you.

My hcg went from 15000 to 24000 it’s all very odd!

@blue congratulations!

@ttc It must be so horrible having to wait and find out. When I had MC at around 6 weeks I wasn't offered D&C as they said it was early enough to pass naturally and everything went fine. My sister in law had a D&C after MC as she ended up with infection when trying to pass naturally. She wishes she had it earlier.

For me I am still waiting for AF to arrive or not after IUI1. Every time I go to the bathroom it's like a wee bit of hope when it's not there.

@chochaw so funny isn’t it, when I came off the pill I was desperate to get my period every day I was hoping and now we’re all like noooooo. FX it comes soon! How long have you been waiting?

I think because I’m now 7 weeks and there are two and I have that huge clot in worried about passing it naturally but hopenit just happens however with my hcg rising I’m not sure it will 🙈 progesterone has dropped a bit though so maybe that will bring it on. Got another scan on Thursday I think to see what the non grower and disappearing/ reappearing grower are up to! X

I think AF is due sometime between tomorrow and Friday. I have had cramping since Sunday so I keep thinking it's coming. I have hospital on Friday if it's not here.x