Secondary infertility support group here!

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Ladies-I hope we all find each other here from the original thread! I didn't realise we had ran out of room on the other thread! Shout if you are there!

Interesting hearing all the supplements people are taking, nice I'm not the only one rattling around with loads.

It starts with an egg says really promising things about DHEA, but kinda worried about the side effects (I don't want my hair to fall out ), but who knows maybe I'll end up doing it.

Do all of you have really good, healthy diets? I'm good for a few days then my resolve breaks, too much chocolate and crap over Easter.

Welcome @lostworkerbee, good luck with your ivf this month. If this month's fertility drugs don't work for us this month we'll be doing that next.

Enjoy the holiday @harry78,it really is a holiday without the stick pee game!

@Annabellaboo I hope the symptoms ease off soon, I know how it feels last time to be very grateful to be pregnant but at the same time hating every minute.

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Hi girls hope everyone is good!well I had my review after my blood and my progesterone has went from 0.1 to 10 so she doesn't want to say I'm not ovulating but anything under 20 means you didn't but she feels Day 21 isn't the right day for me but said to go back over on day 21 and had my scan but itl take a week for results but they were getting shown how to use the new ultrasound so felt she was more messing about with that than looking but we will see.as for supplements iv tried them all lol I don't get any emcm and epo made no difference and I was taking 1500 milligrams plus b12 b6 vit d royal jelly and baby asprin but have stopped them and started maca as I read this helps all stages rather than just progesterone or estrogen or Ewcm so far iv been taking it for nearly 2 cycles and well my progesterone has went up and my god the ewcm is in abundance I mean litrely millions off it and today I got a nearly positive opk so I'm praying I'm ovulating iv not tried Angus cactus as I have pretty regular cycles so don't want to mess that up.i think you should take what u think will help and if you don't see any change after 3 months try something else but if you type in any supplement you will get pros and cons so take what u feel good on also kiwi fruit is supposed to be good for ewcm I saw a bit when I ate 3 a day so just give it a go if you think it would help xx

Tara I don't know if this is any help but in terms of day 21 tests my doctor told me it's more important that it is 7 days before af is due. My cycle is regular but used to be longer at 33 days so I tried day 26 and bingo, got better results.

Thanks lostworker I'm going to just wing it in when I feel I'm ovulating my cycles are anywhere between 28 and 32 so there's no way I'm going over on day 21 iv done it 7 times now it's just wasting time I feel xx

Hi @tara04,

Why oh why do GPs fanny around doing the initial blood tests - they always get it bloody wrong! They don't know what they are doing. I had to have my progesterone done 3 times! Why can't the fertility clinic just do all this because they will want to repeat it anyway if the gp has messed it up! It just wastes time, and time is not something us aging ttcers want to waste!

Did you have your oestradiol measured yet? You mention you previously had no ewcm which is linked to estrogen.

Sounds like macca is working well for you, I've not heard of this one.

Well I'm in the fertile window and literally can't be bothered at all. Might do it once and hope for the best. Every other day has not worked for us so far and neither has every day. I hope my apathy continues through the TWW, it's a much easier emotion than hopeful.

Hi aura
No not been tested for that never even heard of it lol!i get like that aswel sex is just the last thing on your mind even tho you know you have too especially with not getting positive opk I just don't know how people have the energy for every day or every other day unless your in the first flow of a relationship or a 17 year old.yea it really loads and iv tried that much that's not made a difference although it's suppose to make you energetic and horny and it's the natural clomid iv had none of that just the ewcm.i think I'm now in my 2ww if I did ovulate didn't get a positive but had pain and ewcm but I'm not to bothered the now hoping I stay that way too xx

Hi ladies how is everyone doing?

I managed to perform slightly better than expected in the fertile window despite the initial cba attitude. I explained to DH all the tests I will potentially go through etc and pointed out that all he needs to do is have a wank! How unfair is that! It spurred him on and we managed 4 nights on the trot which is a good achievement for us. Only problem is I ovulated later than I thought and so last night, the critical night, he was literally snoring before I got into bed and I couldn't wake him up! So I think we have mistimed it this month, fingers (legs) crossed the swimmers have survived a day or two.

And so begins the TWW once more......

I'm in need of dire advice.
This process is getting me down. We've been trying for two years now, my husband and I however no luck.
I've had a set of bloods and everything has come by fine, apart from yesterday's 21 day blood cycle.

My progesterone levels are low, it is at a 1. The doctor said they've taken the correct measure and this is the end of the tests at the GP. He will refer me on to a specialist in regards to low level however I did not meet requirement at I am two points over the BMI and they might not refer me on however he will ask for advice for low progesterone.

I am at a standstill, I'm so down about this news. Not sure on what to do, I'm in the process of eating healthy; and working out. I need advice and support as I am clueless

Hi aura that's great you got some action in fingers crossed they hung around xx
User14 hi sorry you are hear I know it's hard but try not to stress! Easier said than done.have they done a few day 21 tests to confirm that number my progesterone was 0.1 then last test was 10 still not great but they think that I'm not the norm day 21 so there missing the 7 days after ovulation of they've only done it once I would not accept that as a fact!do you use opk or temp to confirm ovulation yourself?as for bmi my ail was a bit overweight when she got referred she was still seen and told she would need to loose weight before they started ivf but they did not say they would not see her because of it.as o said my level was 0.1 and I felt so low but iv picked myself up and trying new things to help it's the only way to keep me going is to know I'm trying as best I can xx

Hi user,

Agree with tara, it took me 3 times to get the right day for progesterone test. Can you ask for a repeat? I had it done 2 days in a row and it went up loads in 24 hours!

That's awful about not referring you due to BMI, I think BMI is a ridiculous measurement, it's always on the news about school children getting labelled fat who look absolutely perfect. However, I've seen the gp guidelines online and they are not allowed to refer if BMI is over, I suppose they have to draw the line somewhere and their reckoning is being over weight interferes with hormones and the infertility may be down to that. Same if you are under weight. In your case 2 over is nothing is it? I really feel for you it must be so depressing. Can funds allow any private testing? Medichecks do progesterone for £39, I was considering doing it a few days in a row myself if the gp kept getting it wrong.

I'd ask for a second opinion. Good luck x

Oh Harry, we all know that feeling, time after bloody time again.

Try and stay positive, I know it's awful when you're body drags it out and you want af to just show properly. You have your first appointment very soon don't you? I also just received my first appointment much sooner than I thought (GP did good for once!). I'm finding it much easier this TWW because I honestly think I can't get pregnant without help so have no hope this month.

We're here for you x

Oh no Harry as Aurora said, the spotting is worse than just getting your period, as you know is 99% likely but there's always that tiny bit of hope. I usually get really upset with the spotting but I'm over it by the time my period comes.

Yes there's a lot of hidden costs of fertility treatment. I think it's better to worry about money got mat leave when you get pregnant, there's no point in worry about one until the other happens but good you're planning ahead.

I'm a few days into 2ww for 2nd ovulation induction cycle... Period would be due next Sundayish. If this doesn't work debating (arguing) with dh on whether to go straight into ivf next cycle or wait til after we move. Dunno, just want to crack on now but timing not great...

Harry how did your appointment go today?

I try not to think about money just one problem at a time.

I didn't realise you were going private, will the NHS not do some investigations?

I totally understand your apprehension, it's all such a gamble with potentially a hell of a lot to lose! If I could just find out what the problem is I think it would help me come to terms with the fact and move on, it's the not knowing which is the worst...

Have you considered going abroad for investigations?

Clueless we are at similar places in cycle. I'm really calm this month, think it's cause I know it's hopeless lol.

I understand your desire to crack on. I'd be the same.

Ok ladies you will understand.

DD 2.5 yo is going through a "fck sleeping I want to spend all my time that I should be in bed downstairs with mummy and daddy on the sofa" and wakes up like 5-6 times a night. She's been a great sleeper up to a fortnight ago. Now it's literally breaking me.

Today work was a little bit stressful but after work I had to just sit in my car and have a little cry! I'm emotionally in a much better place this last few weeks about ttc taking longer than expected but this lack of sleep has me turned into a blubbering mess. Today is ov day and let's face it, no one wants to DTD with a crying wife.im trying to get perspective. I think I need a nap. I'm realising from writing this I really need a nap.
Tired makes me crazy!!

I marvel time and again that any couples manage to conceive when they have other kids stealing their sleep and generally killing any passion !!

harry sorry to hear you didn't get much at your appointment but at least things are moving forward maybe youl be one of the lucky ones who fall just before they start fertility treatment as aura said have you looked abroad I know on the old thread there were two ladies who highly recommended serium in Athens and even with flights etc it was much cheaper
Cola you sound like you really need a rest is there no one who can take your little one over night for a break?hope you feel better soon and manage to fit in dtd if not tho try not to stress we all have cycles that just don't work out because of life in general and it really sucks cause you convince your self that would have been the month!
Well I'm cycle day 1 again 😡 And it started off brown again so I'm assuming I still didn't ovulate and no results back from the scan.to make matters worse I had a faint line at 11 dpo even dp could see it but must have been a bad test as the other 4 were negative 😪 Iv been really good at not testing early aswell just felt an impulse to do it but think il stick to af from now on nothing worse than false hope xx