Cycled/cycling with Victoria Wing Nuffield Woking for IVF - come join us!

[geeup]

Hello. Looking for other ladies (or men!) who are IVF cycling with the Victoria Wing at Nuffield Woking either privately or NHS to share what happens, how it's going, any tips (what's the car parking like?!), to support one another and success stories of course. My stats:
Geeup
Aged 34
Ttc #1 for 22 cycles so far (4 with Clomid)
OH has low morphology MFI (but it's varied)
NHS cycle - first appt 31st Jan with Dr Riddle
One question to get us going, anyone know what the policy is about having 2 embryos put in on first cycle? Thanks!

Congratulations 8um8le8ee that's brilliant news. When is your viability scan? I had mine on Tuesday this week and being able to see something with the flicker of a heartbeat made it all seem so much more real! I'm still nervous that something will go wrong though (I think I'm a born worrier)!

So sorry about your BFN Geeup, I really thought this was your time. Sounds like you've already got a great attitude about it though, you're so strong. Are you going to go again straight away or give yourself a little break? Can you do FET this time if you decide to go again as you have at least a couple in the freezer now don't you?

MrsDarcy it's great that you are your partner have come to an agreement on doner sperm, and that it will help give you options whatever happens when the November tests come around. Sadly I don't know anything about the egg donation programme (I didn't ever think I'd be able to do it based on my AMH as I think you have to have a certain number of eggs) but I think it's a lovely thing to do, plus it makes your treatment much more affordable/free which is an added bonus.

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend. (Enjoy that glass of wine Geeup..you can have mine too!)

Thank you mrsdarcy!

I know what you mean geeup but it's so difficult as it's just worry all the way through. The roller coaster is never ending. It would be great for you to have a glass of wine for me too!

Thank you flamingo. The viability scan is on 8th August. I am quite worried too as it brings back all the memories of my previous pregnancy. I hope this rainbow baby is healthy and strong!

Congrats on seeing the heartbeat flamingo!

Major headfuck. Just checked my official test from the clinic which I chucked in the bin this morning after it was a BFN (I didn't time but only prob waited 2 mins as was expecting a negative after the neg on the CB digital on Fri). Turns out there's a faint line. Spoke to the clinic and they confirmed it would have been a chemical. It's just the last bit of hcg remaining. I feel better knowing that it wasn't the trigger and something did try to implant at least.

Thanks Geeup.

Sorry that you had such a rollercoaster this cycle with a chemical...but I suppose in some ways that's a little bit of progress from the last cycle....so hopefully next time it will be your turn!

Gosh geeup you have really been through a tough time the last week. You must be exhausted. Do whatever it need to do this weekend, cry, eat, drink, sleep, whatever you need.

Wow geeup it's awful what you have been through but you have such a positive outlook.

Morning. After a BFP do I need to let my GP know or does VW do it?

Morning 8um8le8ee, I guess you can let your GP know now if you want to? However I waited until after my viability scan. At this point VW discharged me and gave me a letter to take to my GP.

Thank you flamingo. I will wait until the viability scan too.

I feel really nervous everytime I think about the scan and even more so that I don't have any symptoms apart from tiredness.

It is another nerve wracking wait! Tiredness was my only symptom too. My sickness and aversions to most foods have only come on in the last few days and I'll be 8 weeks on Wednesday. I think it's quite normal to not feel much until at least 6 weeks or so. Hang on in there! Once the symptoms come you'll be wishing for that time without them to be back!

Hi all

Do you mind if I join? This will be my first ever post on here I'm not quite sure how to use it properly yet so please bear with me.

Congratulations on those that have got your BFP, it really does bring me great hope.

Sorry Gee to hear of your Bfn hope you get your sticky one soon, and MrsDarcy I'm really sorry to hear of your recent struggles but it sounds like you have a plan of action and that's always a great thing to focus on and I wish you luck with all of that

I have been at VW now since Nov and had my 1stfresh cycle in January which was a freeze all due to OHSS, in April I had a fet which was sadly a Bfn and i've just had my 2nd FET which has again resulted in a BFN. Was absolutely devastated this morning but as I am one day before my OTD the nurse at the clinic has told me to test again tomorrow morning although it's unlikely this is going to change. I'm really hoping they let me go ahead with another frozen straight away and I don't have to wait for my next period to start, i'm so fed up of all the waiting that is involved especially when there's nothing to show for it at the end.
We are fortunate to be having this funded by the NHS and as we have one frozen cycle left and 3-4 embryos frozen they want us to use up this cycle first before using my last fresh cycle we have. This time I'm going to push for them to transfer 2 embryos now that I have had two failed transfers. I'm now 37 so I think it's more than reasonable that they let me do this and the nurse today didn't seem to think that that would be a major issue, altho I did have a Blighted ovum last February with a twin pregnancy conceived using clomid, so she said that might be a concern.

What are your thoughts on transferring 2? And do you think I should asked for the scratch? We are more than happy to pay for any extras if they feel that that might work and help these to stick.

I'm so pleased to see there is a thread for the same clinic as me, that's why I felt the need to post something as I feel you will truly understand where I'm coming from knowing where I'm having my treatment as everywhere seems to have different protocols meds and lingo.

Sorry for such a long post, hope I haven't sent you to sleep! lol

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Welcome hopeful. I'm really pleased you posted. It's so helpful to talk to others in a similar state and at the same clinic so you understand the conversations that are happening.
I'm really sorry your second FET failed. It's incredibly hard when it takes so long to get to this stage. As you've seen I also have two (albeit fresh) transfers - one BFN, one chemical and an desperate to go again (just waiting for next period then I'll go again).
I definitely would ask for the scratch. I've read a lot about it and can't think of a reason not to. It's only about £150 with VW I think and worth a try. If you have a third failed FET I'd ask for embryogen for your fresh. I wasn't allowed it as hadn't had enough failures (!) but research is promising that it helps implantation.
Re having two transferred, VW seem adamantly against it due to risk of multiples. More so than other clinics. I asked for 2 last time and they said as my embryos were good quality they wouldn't. I really want it for my third transfer as I feel that if it's a chromosomal problem, a second embryo would up my chances of a normal one. I know single transfer is safer but other clinics friends have used have been much more open to personal requests. I'll be interested to see what you are able to do. I wonder if they are really trying to be the clinic with the lowest multiple rate or something and want to protect their stats?
Anyway welcome aboard.

Thanks for your reply, how do you address a comment to someone? I'm using iPhone and can't figure it out.

So far they have been adamant they won't transfer 2, they told me if I have 2 failed transfers they will consider so fingers crossed they will let me do that. Nurse on the phone today said she can't see why it would be a problem now altho as mentioned I have had twin missed miscarriage before so might not let me. I'm also hoping they will be more open to me trying other extras now as well, again before they said not recommended as I'd only had 1 failed transfer but as I have 2 and not even a hint of bfp surely they need to consider changing the treatment plan some how?! I can't keep going through the highs and lows of these cycles to be crushed again!

Thanks again for the tip, I never thought of embrogen too, I'll make a note of that for my fresh

When will you be due to start again? Will this time be a fet? Let's hope it's 3rd time lucky for us both!

I'm in such an awful mood tonight and poor hubby doesn't know why yet, I can't bear to burst his pupo bubble just yet...wish I could just stop all the meds, I mean the likeliness of it being a bfp is minimal so seems pointless but nurse said I had to carry on until I next speak to them. Grrrr!

To address a comment you can do @then their name which will send them a notification or you can just write asterix - then their name - then asterix to make it bold so they see it.

But yes it'll be my third transfer too and it'll be my first FET (I did two fresh back to back as only had one in the freezer).

Thanks @geeup for the info

Good luck with your fet, it's definitely a lot easier, not so many scan appointments or meds, still the awful buserelin jabs tho, it's a shame they have such a long treatment plan for each fet, that's why I want to make sure they allow me to go again straight away.

Tested this morning and as expected bfn, don't know why I'm still so upset by that when I knew yday. I dreamt last night it turned into a bfp, gosh our minds can be so cruel. Think I'll just call VW today and ask to stop meds so I can push ahead with the next round and get my period underway.

I find it helps to just crack on with the next thing too to get over the BFNs. Well done for being brave.

Welcome Hopeful Sorry to hear of your BFN this morning and your troubles so far. I was very lucky to get a BFP on my first fresh cycle (currently 8w2d so still a long way to go!) but I know if it hadn't worked I'd want to be onto the next try as soon as possible like you. You already feel like you've had a massive wait before you even begin any treatment!

This forum is great as it's nice to find people being treated for the same thing at the same place...and hopefully you and Geeup will be quite close for your next FET cycles.

Wishing you lots of luck! I'm sure it'll be 3rd time lucky!

Welcome hopeful. So sorry to hear about your ups and downs in your ivf journey so far. It's great you have joined this group, I found it so useful and the support from the girls really helps. Thanks ladies!

Like flamingo this was my first attempt and I have a bfp, I'm at 5 weeks. I did what I could to increase my chances, I have gave up high intensity exercises and replaced them with walking and fertility yoga, I was on a high protein and low carb diet anyway but I was just a lot stricter and didn't snack, I started acupuncture. Then after egg transfer I ate pineapple with the core (2 rings a day), a small avocado and walnuts everyday for 5 days they each have chemicals that help the lining for implantation apparently. I downloaded an app mindful ivf which helped me a great deal to keep stress levels down.

I'm not sure if any of these things contributed to the success but just thought I'd share. I think the main thing is be happy and positive and that in itself is very hard throughout the roller coaster journey.

Good luck and I hope you will have a sticky one on your next go.

Thanks @flamingo and @8um8le8ee for being so welcoming...

I'm a true believer in acupuncture and have been having regular sessions since my missed miscarriage last Feb. I too did everything I could to up my chances in the last transfer, I cut out caffeine, alcohol, processed foods etc, drank loads of water and as have 2 dogs so I have no choice but to walk regularly. I drank Pom juice, Brazil nuts, and pineapple as well as all the vitamins and keeping feet and tummy warm (before transfer), I think this is why I feel particularly let down this time around as I really did give it my all but still bfn. I also downloaded the Zita West visualtion for ivf which I listened to daily, sent me to sleep but my acupuncturist said that was a good thing. So far we have transferred our top embryos, both being day 5 starting to hatch 5AA so I can't help thinking maybe it's my fault...we have 4 left so praying they will let me transfer 2 next time.

I've spoken to my favourite nurse this morning, makes it so much easier doesn't it, she is putting forward my case to my consultant, Mr Brook, on Monday and said it's up to MrB and the embryologist to decide if we can have 2 put back. I've also asked for the scratch and she agreed this would be a good option to add a change to our previous cycles. So for now I've stopped my meds, waiting for af (never wanted it so bad) and keeping my fingers crossed I get the call to give me the go ahead!

I'll keep you posted!!

@flamingo you must have your scan soon? Wish you well x

It sounds like you're doing all you can @Hopeful4ivf ...but that's what makes this journey so frustrating, the fact that the end result is still out of our control. Hopefully the few changes you have planned will make he difference this time around.

I've already had my first scan (at 6w6d) which was amazing to see. Now I'm counting down to my 12 week one on 23rd August.

@8um8le8ee not too long left to wait for your viability scan.

hopeful it sounds like you have done all you can and now it's time to get more medical help. We are lucky in this day and age to have lots of options.

It still feels like ages away flamingo my viability scan is on 8th August, but I'm not waiting in anticipation like the 2ww. I'm just enjoying each day of being pregnant without the crazy symptoms. Well apart from giving in to sleeping coz I love sleep...lol. What symptoms do you have and how are you getting on?

@flamingo your 12 week scan will be here before you know it! Altho I remember waiting for my 8 wk scan and that took forever!
@8um8le8ee yours will soon arrive too and you've got a great attitude, enjoy every day instead of symptom spotting.

Let's hope these little 'extras' will make all the difference, we've never wanted anything so much. Hubby even got the test out of the bin later this morning just in case it changed. Bless him

Enjoy your weekends...we are now trying to plan a date night to our favourite restaurant for seafood and cocktails

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Seafood and cocktails sounds delicious @Hopeful4ivf ...have a cocktail for me!!

@8um8le8ee I know it's a tough wait but the 8th is only a week on Tuesday...so after the weekend it'll only be a week away! I did a test every 3/4 days before that first scan just to keep checking! I still don't have loads of symptoms really. I do feel quite sick whenever I get hungry (which seems to be every couple of hours!!) and there are some foods which I just can't stomach at the moment...the thought of them just seems disgusting...even things I used to really enjoy! I mainly seem to be eating/craving all the bad foods...lots of carbs and sugar! I hope it passes after 12 weeks so I can eat a little healthier again!