Assisted conception after recurrent miscarriage part 6

[Arianrhod]

Part 5 here : www.mumsnet.com/Talk/infertility/a1852840-Assisted-conception-after-recurrent-miscarriage-part-5

[Mel3062]

Belly I've been on the look out all day. A positive on a frer sounds very positive to me ( whispers congrats) after all 10dpo is still early so prob too early to show on the clearblue yet x

[Mel3062]

I love prawns ;) just don't eat them again! It wouldn't of hurt to have a bit of what you fancy people drink alcohol and all sorts not realising they're pregnant!

[duggs1976]

Agree FRER are v reliable so a faint positive is great. A clear blue digital won't show anything at this stage so I would say be cautiously optimistic

[suemays]

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[suemays]

Been lurking too for news of belly. I agree its too early for a clear blue plus a line will only be faint at 10dpo on FRER and you didn't use FMU! Sounds good to me!
I am at ZW on wed from 10am so let me know if you are around!

[VillageMum]

Belly, agree with mel and duggs and sue. The FRER measures 12.5 miu of hcg, the Clearblue Digi that gives you the number of weeks you are, 25miu. I'd test again on a FRER tomorrow and see if that line gets darker, and leave the digi till Wednesday at least! It sounds good!!

[swlondonnanny]

Good luck today

[swlondonnanny]

Sorry my phone is playing up!
Good luck today Belly

[BellyD]

Slightly darker line this morning ladies......cautiously optimistic. Going to book a blood test for tomorrow and ivig for asap. Sue will let you know if I am going to be at ZW in the am.

[Arianrhod]

Morning ladies ... Sorry for the silence, I've rather dropped off the radar a bit with everything that's going on with OH's Dad. He's failing fast, sadly, and each day brings a new challenge. We're trying to get him out of the hospital he's in (surrounded by seriously sick people which is really not helping his mental state) where he's totally confined to his bed as he can't move under his own steam any more and the nursing staff just mostly leave him to himself. Makes my blood boil, I know they're badly understaffed but he's a terminally ill - and very scared - 85 year old man and because they can't do anything for him to help his cancer it seems they're just abandoning him. We want to get him into a hospice where at least he can have more pleasant surroundings to end his days in a bit of peace, but I'm not sure he's going to last long enough for that since it appears nothing moves fast these days, even for terminally ill elderly people.

Sorry, rant off!

Tried to catch up with everyone's news but apologies if I've missed things. village so sorry to hear about your early miscarriage (the 'chemical' term doesn't sit well with me - it's still a miscarriage). Both of my SuperOv pregnancies ended this way. It's hard to know why these things happen, but fingers crossed that's the last one of those you'll have to deal with.

belly I'd agree with the girls - I think you'll find it's too early to have a reliable result from e Clearblue digi. I always use FRER and find them to be the best indicator. 10dp4dt is early yet (remember we don't test until 12dp5dt at Serum) and a faint line on a FRER sounds very hopeful! And I wouldn't worry about those prawns - I'm absolutely certain the ladies from fish-eating nations all over the world munch happily on shellfish throughout their pregnancies without any problems! :)

Nothing much doing from me, other than grappling with almost constant nausea and bloating, plus thanks to the steroid weight-gain I look like a small elephant anyway. No idea what's going on 'inside' and not worrying about it either. Have happily stopped the neupogen injections (but what on earth do I do with an unused new syringe of neupogen that I didn't need?!), started cutting down on the estrogen tabs and can't wait until I can get off the bl**dy steroids. I know lots of ladies worry about coming off the meds (as in, worrying they were the only thing keeping the pregnancy going) but for me, I can't wait, I'm hating all these medications and the effect they're having on my body. OH still not commented at all about twins, but again I suspect he's so emotionally tied up in knots over his poor Dad, I really can't blame him. His Dad (and his Mum) and the priority now, anything else can wait.

/waves to everyone, hope you're all doing really well and had a fantastic Easter!

[Arianrhod]

are* the priority, not and. Finger fatigue!!

And fab news belly, we crossed posts. Can't wait to see the blood test results! :)

[Arianrhod]

village Just working my way through the Pred thread, and I see you asked about Genova Diagnostics for DHEA testing. That's the company I use for my adrenal and DHEA testing, always, and they're very good.

[BellyD]

Ari sorry to hear things are so bad with you OH's dad, sounds awful. I really hope that you can manage to get him moved to a hospice. Thinking of you all.

[Pebbles73]

Nanny not sure about the hidden infection testing if I am honest but at this stage I am willing to try most things. Let's hope our samples get there!!

Village have you managed to speak to anyone yet about carrying on with super ov? We are off to Athens Sat and have a consultation and Aquascan booked for Monday. If Penny thinks it's necessary to investigate further she will then book me in for a hysteroscopy the next day. Could do without that expense but I know in *Ari's case they found scarring that had been completely missed in the uk. I am keen to see what they recommend although our plans are for donor egg ivf. Have had four rounds of ivf with own eggs and just can't justify keep paying out for something that isn't working so keen to try a different avenue. Anyway hope you are ok.

Belly whispered congrats and here's to that line getting stronger. Good luck for the blood test and keep us posted.

Ari so sorry to hear what your fil is going through and I know how frustrating it can be. With my Dad it took a while to get him into a home and they tried to put him in a couple that just weren't suitable for his dementia and he ended up back in hospital. Make sure you look after yourself too!!

Am off work today as have nasty bout of cystitis, not had it since my twenties and had forgotten how horrible it is!

[VillageMum]

Belly a cautious BUT optimistic yay!! You have good reason to feel positive.

Pebbles Serum sound so thorough, and as if they have real integrity too. I'm sure you'll get the best advice there. And if they do recommend DE, then you'll know (a) that it really is necessary and (b) that your chances of success there will be excellent. Sounds like win-win to me.

Mr S/Cheryl got straight back to me this morning, bless them. I've been advised to go straight into SO cycle 6, so that's what I'm doing. I've booked a SO scan already for CD10... here we go again.

Ari great to hear from you. I'm so glad your pregnancy is going strong, despite bloating and nausea! And really sorry to hear about the stress at home, and your poor FIL's experience in hospital. I hope you manage to find a hospice place... Thanks for the feedback on Genova - I noticed on the site that they need you to enter a 'medical practitioner number', ie get your GP involved in relaying the results, and as getting an appointment with my GP is like getting an audience with the Queen, I went with Verisana. Which will probably take ages anyway. Not sure if taking a low-level dose of DHEA (say 25mg rather than 75mg) without being tested first is too much of a risk or not, feel time is running out... all the usual fears, which are even more acute as I'm going straight into another SO cycle and want to do anything I can to give myself the best chance. Knowing that both you and Sue had two chemicals/early miscarriages each while on SO scares me a bit, I must admit. Better to know that this risk is there than not, though. x

Waves to everyone.

[Arianrhod]

Ah yes village - because I am hypothyroid I used the Thyroid UK as my referrer (TUK tell you to do this) so I avoided the GP thing. The problem with DHEA is, the older you get the lower your levels, but that may not mean anything to do with fertility. I took it and had very uncomfortable side effects, but as it turns out my DHEA levels are low (tested much later after I'd stopped taking it). For me personally, I wouldn't trust the quality of my own eggs now - it's not unheard of at 46 (as I am now) for there to be a 'good egg' in there somewhere, but I personally wasn't prepared to go through several more miscarriages to find it. I am still p*d off that the genetic problems between me and OH weren't discovered during the initial round of testing with Mr S (because he didn't test for it) because I was 42 then and had a much better chance of having good eggs of my own. But it is what it is, and grumbling won't change anything! Fingers crossed SO does the trick for you and brings out your own good egg(s) :)

belly and pebbles Thanks for the good wishes, it's just a cr@ppy situation all round.

pebbles Oh nasty, cystitis, I know it well - you have my deepest sympathies, it's horrid! I take it you already have your tried-and-trusted remedies on hand? I used to get it so darned often, I make sure I have the only thing that works for me in my first aid cupboard at all times even though I haven't had it for a few years now.

Exciting that you're off to Serum on Saturday, are you looking forward to the trip (if not the bodily invasions!)?? Remember what I say about Serum being in a really grotty-looking back street .. the clinic itself is lovely, but the surrounds leave a bit to be desired! When you get up to the clinic front door you have to wait for them to buzz the door open before you push it .. it's opaque glass from the outside so you can't see in, but they will see you. :) Confused the life out of me the first time I went there as I was pushing the door, nothing was happening, and I was wondering if I got the wrong place! Where did you decide to stay in the end?

[VillageMum]

Ari thanks. I'm so very sorry you had to go through so much stress and heartache. But on the up side, you now have what looks like a viable twin pregnancy on board and once those babies arrive (as they will!) you won't wish that anything had been otherwise. I've heard mothers of DE or DD conceived babies say that they wouldn't exchange them now for an OE pregnancy even if they could, and I can completely believe that - once that child is there you just love it with all your heart. I am so glad and excited for you!

[Arianrhod]

Oh I have no concerns about the donor side of things - to me, if it's growing in me, then it's 100% mine, I've never had the struggle that I know many ladies do over donor eggs (and I do completely understand their struggle to come to terms with using donor eggs; I just don't feel it myself). As to whether this works or not - well it may seem crackers, but I'm still completely detached from it all and thinking if it does, it does, and if it doesn't then I'm actually ok with it right now. Feels weird when I think how hard I pushed to get this far, but that's how I feel right now.

[VillageMum]

Ari I dread trying again with my own eggs, to be perfectly honest. Reason tells me that the odds are not good now. I think if I had a DE conceived baby on board I'd breathe more easily (and I'd feel exactly the same as you do about it being 100 per cent mine.) I really admire your sang froid!

[Mel3062]

Belly great news.
Pebbles how exciting, that's come around fast! Sorry about the cystitis that's horrid :(
Village good luck for this cycle.
I'm on day 10 and had 2 days of flashing opk here we go ;)
Hubby still off with his back.
Ari so sorry to hear about your dad in law. Have you been told to stop the neupogen now?? I'd hand it in or save it for me incase asda stop stocking it for me :)
My thyroid is back at 1.17 so I think that's ok? It says (0.2-4.0) so think the thyroxine is doing ok. It says serum TSH is that correct?
Waves to all x

[duggs1976]

Oh wow belly d so exciting!
Ari good for you beans are growing just take care of yourself
Pebbles so glad the appointment has come around. Can anyone tell me the high nk cells protocol for dr S? I only have very high but I had high result so just want to check when to stop hydroxy. I'm 14 wks on Thursday and am actually quite relaxed about it all. Normal person now apparently so I may as well act normal and enjoy. Good luck Mel... Sue hope u r ok and nanny x

[Mel3062]

Thanks duggs, wow 14 weeks yey!!
I'm on high too but saw him a year ago so not sure if it's changed. Please can someone send me password and username I've lost my leaflet :/

[VillageMum]

duggs and mel I've PM'd the password and username to you both.

[duggs1976]

Many thanks village. Hope you are doing ok x

[BellyD]

Sue just popping in to say not at ZW this am as went up v early to tdl for blood test so back home now.

Pebbles sorry to hear about the cystitis, so painful. Really excited for your trip to Serum though. Looking forward to hearing all about it and what Penny recommends. Best of luck with it all.

Duggs 14 weeks seems to have flown by (am sure it hasn't for you) but glad to hear you are a normal person now!

Will pop back later with result, ivig mentalling etc....!