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Assisted conception after recurrent miscarriage part 6

997 replies

Arianrhod · 09/04/2014 13:04

Part 5 here : www.mumsnet.com/Talk/infertility/a1852840-Assisted-conception-after-recurrent-miscarriage-part-5

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Mel3062 · 14/05/2014 18:46

Interesting mine was 1.17 on 50mg
Sorry I ment the migraine medication! X

VillageMum · 15/05/2014 08:54

nanny thanks for asking. Tested Tuesday and again today and it's a BFN. But not giving up... have to look forwards, not back! Roll on next SO cycle!

swlondonnanny · 15/05/2014 09:42

Sorry Village Sad

Mel3062 · 15/05/2014 18:42

Sorry village x

VillageMum · 16/05/2014 09:11

Thanks nanny, mel - it's just one of those things. Have to keep trying!

Hope everyone else is doing ok.

duggs1976 · 20/05/2014 07:15

How is everyone? Thanks belly D and pebbles when are your next trips? Sue hope u r ok and mel too...nanny what about you.. ?

Pebbles73 · 20/05/2014 14:20

Hey Duggs has gone v quite on here! I am waiting for af so I can them book next hysto (dreading it so wasn't it over and done with!) should be due in a couple of weeks. Thought best not to book though on case it comes late.

How is everything with you? Must have a nice bump now?!

Waves to everyone.

Arianrhod · 20/05/2014 16:18

I'm still in lurk mode mostly, but was also wondering how everyone is doing! pebbles how long do you anticipate for your AF to show her head? Is DH going back out to Athens with you when you go, and will you then be going straight into an IVF cycle the month following your hysto?

bellyd Did your clinic come up with any answers/plans for you, what have you decided to do next?

/waves to everyone

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BellyD · 21/05/2014 17:10

Village sorry for the bfn. Roll on next month.

Pebbles totally understand that you want to get the Hysto out of the way and when it is you can get going again, knowing that you have a much stronger chance of success.

Thanks for asking after me Duggs and Ari. The clinic eventually came back and didn't really have any answers as to what went wrong or what to do differently next time and said that the protocol worked as I got pregnant!!! As we all know that is only the first hurdle crossed. Anyway I felt dreadful (bad headaches) tapering off the pred and my boobs are still massive (for me!) and sore, so it is taking a while to feel normal. The clinic said that it takes 45 days from the start of your cycle to transfer, which if we counted from when I started taking the pill would be the middle of June (DH nearly fainted - don't think he can bear the thought of going through it again and of me on all the drugs quite so soon). I am definitely not ready for that, but the cycle after would mean towards the end of July which I think is a bit more realistic. I am pretty convinced that part of the problem is the blood flow to my uterus, and I am going to look in to this a bit more. My womb lining is always so thin, my periods are now much lighter than they used to be and then I don't seem to implant properly even with the clexane and aspirin. I am sure that is a huge part of my problem. If anyone has any ideas, I'd really welcome them. The clinic said I don't need any further tests or a hysteroscopy, but I really want to be as sure as possible going in to the next cycle that we are giving ourselves the best chance. Sorry to ramble on..

Hope everyone else is doing ok and looking forward to the long weekend..

swlondonnanny · 21/05/2014 17:14

Hello everyone Smile
CD 10, DH away for next 2 weeks so no TTC this month. Feels weird.
Have my smear test booked for Friday instead
Gives me plenty of time to sort out my thoughts and make plan A and plan B and plan C ... Like to have plans
Started pregnacare conception ( used to take pregnacare original) so I feel like I am doing something...
Pebbles are you feeling 'back to normal' after your hysteroscopy?

duggs1976 · 21/05/2014 18:14

Belly I'm no expert but from what I know lots of D&C's, low estrogen, infections, fibroids and scar tissue are key causes of reduced uterine lining. Ari probably knows more... It does sound like it could be your issue if seemingly good embryos are not implanting properly ? What can u do though ? Is if worth just having a phone consult with penny just to get her professional opinion.. It doesn't cost anything ?

Mel3062 · 21/05/2014 19:05

Hi ladies
Boo to a smear nanny!
Duggs hope you're doing ok. Pebbles good luck for hysteo. Belly hope your ok also.
As for me with all my opks, I think they may be quite accurate as ff said I ovulated day 10! I'm day 13 now. Don't know what's making it so early!! Better earlier than later I guess. My new monitor is still saying high though!!
Waves to all

suemays · 22/05/2014 08:34

belly I have Pmd you!

swlondonnanny · 22/05/2014 08:45

Belly how disappointing for you! I agree with Duggs re infections, low estrogen etc. Did you ever have Athens infection test done? Also think contacting Serum for second opinion can't do you any harm. It must ne very hard to think about going through the IVF again if you can't trust the clinic ( and they were really rubish with not being with touch and saying that their protocol worked as you got pregnant is horrible!!!)
Mel is the new monitor checking something what the other OPK don't test? If it is still high? It happened to me once that FF moved ovulation date by 3 days... Maybe worth to carry on with DTD until the new monitor decides that you ovulated?
Duggs could I ask what medication/vitamins you were on with this pregnancy? Did you not say ages ago that when you had your NKcells retested it came back normal?

duggs1976 · 22/05/2014 15:49

Oh nanny - it was high/v hight after a mc in 2011 then I had another mc on treatment with IVF chromosome tested embryos so got tested in 2012 by dr g and they were normal ( was 3 mths after the mc) then had 2 more mc on treatment and when I had last mc last sept I got retested by NLC and they came back v high. But then dr s said waste of time testing so close to a mc ? ( 300 wasted Hmm) and was trisomy 16 anyway. Hence my mis trust of nk cells being my solution !

duggs1976 · 22/05/2014 15:51

Nanny I was on pregnacare and omega3 x

Mel3062 · 22/05/2014 19:52

Nanny-The Clearblue Advanced Fertility Monitor is the only monitor that tracks and stores fertility and pregnancy information. It accurately tracks the levels of 2 key fertility hormones (estrogen and luteinising hormone) and identifies your fertility window each cycle when your chances of conception are highest (the few days before and when you are ovulating.basically similar to the digital version which is why I would of thought they'd of been peak at a similar time :/
However day 14 and yes still high so going to Dtd every other day now as hubby has done long hours. It's just annoying when I have to take cyclogest and neopegen after ovulation! Think I'll wait a few more days..

swlondonnanny · 23/05/2014 16:07

Mel that is annoying but if all other tests and FF are saying you ovulated I would just start with the cyclogest/neopegen. I was doing that CB digital with dual hormone thingy and only had flashy ones (9 of those!!!!) and no peak.
Actually I figured that one out - the clear blue's sensitivity for LH surge is 40 and internet cheap tests is 20. Looks like my LH surge is below 40 so CB digital didn't register that.
Will stick with internet tests from now on.
Duggs thank you. Looks like NKcells can go up and down then... Do you have any autoimmune problems which could triger it?

swlondonnanny · 23/05/2014 16:19

Oops, sorry posted too early.
My boss is 18 weeks pregnant - feels weird but I am surprised at how genuinelly happy I am for her . It reminds me every day though that in the time we've been TTC they had a child who is 18mnths and another due in October.

suemays · 23/05/2014 23:12

I could never get on with cb fertility monitor. I used it for 2 years and it never came up with a peak even though I got preg 5 times! I phoned their helpline and they said some womens surges are too short for the monitor to pick up! Waste of money for me!!!

Mel3062 · 24/05/2014 06:40

Interesting sue I used the old one for a few years too and I did get peak on it. Day 16 today or 6dpo according to ff. monitor was high again, ovia said ovulation is day 15 so I'm going to take cyclogest and neupogen tonight.

duggs1976 · 26/05/2014 15:25

Hey nanny no auto immune issues for me not even hay fever ! I wonder if my nk readings were high bc I was miscarrying? How is everyone?

Davidtennantmistress · 27/05/2014 07:40

Hi all, I'm hoping for a bit of advice, I'm 32 two ds's and apparently my fsh is 14.2. My hormones are all over the place and I can't stop crying. I'm cd 5, apparently I am not ovulating. Bt I have spikes of really high hormones which I can tell with my moods bit like melt downs, it used to be when I ovulated (or thought I did) now it's cd 3/5. I have regular periods every 27/28 days.

I have one ovary as I had a growth on my patierty gland as a child an early puberty (7) I'm over weight which I know won't help and trying my hardest to loose something, I've taken up exercise again.

We had another mmc last September which was d/c this was my second at 8 weeks, but I've also had several chemical pgs as well.

I just feel the boat is/has sailed and I'll never be pg again. I don't expect hubs or anyone else to understand but right now I fell failed by everyone/my faith that it would all work out.

I take wheat grass/royal jelly/ Angus cactus iron and a multi vitamin daily. Have done for two months but so far nada, still feels the same, my persona monitor says I am ovulating, I'm yet to try cb digitalis (this months!) along with tempting. We've had some major stresses at home which haven't helped.

The doctor so far isn't so good, and being fobbed off left right and centre, the blood clinic checked me for thrombosis a month ago, no results apparently, likewise the receptionist at the dockers is apparently too busy to type the referral letter (which blood doctor sent her) out which my doctor gave her on the 16 th of this month! Blood doctor was very surprised id not been reffered to gyne same time as him, this all started in February. I think I will need clomid but not sure I will get it, as bmI is currently 34.8 (per slimming world). Anyhow is there hope for just one last mini person? I'm loosing faith.

Davidtennantmistress · 27/05/2014 07:51

Oh also had a early m.c earlier this year, so must of ovulated since my d/c, just don't know why it's stopped now. :(

VillageMum · 28/05/2014 12:30

Dtmistress welcome. Don't lose faith. Your cycles are regular. You are young, and you have time. It may be a good idea to get specialist help. Lots of the ladies on this thread have been to The Miscarriage Clinic run by Mr H Shehata in London and Epsom. The website is:www.miscarriageclinic.co.uk/
He does comprehensive tests. I'm sure other ladies will pop in soon with other recommendations - but this could be a start!
Best of luck to you.