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Assisted conception after recurrent miscarriage part 5

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Mel3062 · 14/09/2013 19:37

Hope this is right ladies ...

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Arianrhod · 23/03/2014 15:30

8 days past 5 day transfer duggs. Well that's what I'm thinking, a 'normal' ovulation test date would be around now so had I been on Mr S's protocol, I would only just be upping to 40mg Pred from 25mg anyway. And I've been on the equivalent of 25mg Pred up to now. I just have to hope it's enough.

Anyway enough about me! How are you feeling duggs? So damn glad it all appears to be going well for you, it's about time your patience was rewarded! You can be the front runner heralding good news for the rest of us on here :)

duggs1976 · 23/03/2014 15:49

Ahh yes so that works out well then. Going up to higher dose. Is OTD Thursday did u say? So nerve racking Ari. You are such an inspirational pioneer and so deserve to get this baby.
Afm, I'm ok. Feeling nauseous still although dr a did say they give women steroids and pred when all else fails in hospital for severe sickness. I haven't thrown up just can't stop eating carbs. (Nothing new there). 9 wks now so just the harmony test a week tomorrow and the results 2 weeks later if I get that far.
How is sue doing ?

duggs1976 · 23/03/2014 15:49

Dr a = dr s

Arianrhod · 24/03/2014 08:51

Yes, OTD is Thu, but I tell you I'm seriously worried about this being an immune reaction. I'm not developing any signs of a cold, but I feel pretty rough with sore throat, swollen throat glands, last night I was absolutely freezing even though the house was warm, and my elbows have started itching (where I get my psoriasis). It's an absolutely classic sign for me that my immune system is on the rampage. P*s me off no end, I thought we had avoided all of this doing DD. If this does turn out to be my body killing off yet more embryos then there's really no point planning to go back for our frozen embies, as short of IVIG (which I can't afford) there is absolutely nothing else we can do to suppress my cr@ppy immune system.

I was so damn positive about this cycle, I really thought it was going to be the one. Now, well, I just wait for Thursday and hope.

Sorry for the me post, I'm just really fed up!

suemays · 24/03/2014 10:54

duggs great news on the scan. I have such a good feeling for you about this one. I was always convinced you didn't have a problem with killer cells and that you would get there. I think the acupuncture has helped too - I'm thinking of restarting again after Easter.

ari its only natural to feel fed up as so much rides on this one.

pebbles are you having de ivf?

I feel really fed up at the moment too. Feels like I will never get there plus its hard to even get pregnant for me now. Never used to be a problem but we've been trying for 5 months now with no luck. I used to conceive by month 2 or 3. DH went away on cd11 this month so sure I won't be lucky this month. Think I said on here before but I am going to try naturally until next spring when I am 43 and then go for de in Spain. I haven't spoken to DH about it as he originally said he would never do it. Any suggestions on how to broach the subject with him? He thinks I have given up trying and commented last week how nice it was that he didn't feel under pressure any more! Little does he know!

A friend of mine has just had her third in the time I have been trying, I really want to get closure now as tired of it all as I'm sure you all are.

brown I was told that men who have high levels of testosterone are normally bald but hairy on the body! I noticed the hairloss whilst on dhea, even by hair dresser commented on it and I started to get random black hairs on my face and arms which I never had before. I know dhea is a form of testosterone so I am guessing that is causing the hair loss. Since stopping it I have lots of new hair about 2 inches sprouting from my head and the black hairs have gone. I know steroids thin the hair too and make it brittle so it's no surprise you are losing your hair!!

Pebbles73 · 24/03/2014 14:02

Sent you back a pm Ari and have basically echoed Duggs that your immune system must be so supressed that you would be catching things. After having pred and hydroxy I had a really crisp virus. We are all routing for you and it's hard in our situations not to assume the worst but it isn't always the case.

Duggs strange thing to say but am pleased to hear you are still feeling nauseous. Smile

Sue it is really hard and of course gets you down sometimes. I really hope you get a bfp soon, do you think it's maybe just an age thing and might just take you a few more months than usual?

I worry about doing this while Serum thing that I am just wasting more money and should really call it a day and look into adoption.

BellyD · 24/03/2014 17:31

Ari I agree with the others, I think that your immune system is supressed which is why you feel under the weather. So try and stay positive and hold out until Thurs (much easier said than done, obvs)

Sue sorry you are feeling a bit low. It must be really frustrating for you. Really hope you get a natural bfp soon. I know someone (with a history like ours) who got pregnant pre day11 so you never know.

Just an interesting aside. I am currently hooked up to my IVIG and since my last one my asthma symptoms have all but disappeared, so I mentioned this to the nurse and he said it's not the first time he has heard this but they haven't done studies of enough people to prove it helps asthma. Incredible - I suppose that they need so many donors to make IVIG, plus it is mega expensive and there are probably millions of asthma sufferers, but I have relied heavily on inhalers for years and have now barely used mine in months.

duggs1976 · 24/03/2014 21:45

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duggs1976 · 25/03/2014 08:25

3rd attempt to post on this iPhone. Pebbles I hear you. If being totally honest I think Peny can give the chance of a full term baby through the use of young, proven egg donors. I'm not sure any treatment can do more than what has gone before? It really depends on how much more you can go through? Sue your plan sounds wise. If you can sow the seeds about the DNA crossing from mother to feotus over the coming months and hopefully share positive success stories from Ari and belly D and pebbles and anyone else going down that route then it will become more familiar at least. James acupuncturist said he was yet to meet a woman who regretted donor egg route and only thing they wished was they'd done it sooner .... It is there waiting for me if this doesn't work out - enough is enough!

Pebbles73 · 26/03/2014 12:07

How are you holding up Ari ?

Pebbles73 · 26/03/2014 12:08

How are you holding up Ari ?

duggs1976 · 26/03/2014 12:43

Yes Ari have been thinking about you...

Arianrhod · 26/03/2014 13:23

Ugh, truthfully I'm driving myself nuts. I'm trying not to, I do keep having stern talks with myself, telling myself there's absolutely no point in fretting over what my immune system is doing, but the next minute I find myself googling 'immune reaction to donor egg ivf' and suchlike. So I yo-yo between determined positivity and absolute depths of despair that my wretched immune system has done it again and we've just thrown away another £5800-odd. My throat is still hurting like heck, I do honestly believe it is an immune flare-up rather than a virus and even increasing the steroids has had absolutely no effect. I felt better yesterday (although my throat still hurt) but much worse again this morning.

I'm thinking I should get my immunes retested while this is going on, but that's another £371 I have to find, which I just don't have. I'll see what happens tomorrow - if I get another faint line (scream!) on the test or a strong line (please please please) I think I will get them tested, I need to know what's happening.

Honestly, I'm driving myself crazy.

Arianrhod · 26/03/2014 13:32

And of course I meant I'm googling 'immune reaction to double donor ivf' not donor egg, as that wouldn't help!

I honestly thought I wouldn't have an immune reaction with doing double donor, since my biggest problem was the DQa match with OH, but from talking to a lovely lady on the Yahoo Immunology board and from my googling, oh yes you can - you can get just as much of a reaction even if the embryo has no match with you at all.

I was so, so very positive about this cycle, but this sore throat malarky has really knocked me for six. And googling doesn't help with that either - almost everything I read from people with the exact same symptoms around the same time as me showed it was an immune response, and virtually all of them miscarried early.

Aaaarrrgggghhhhhh.

Mel3062 · 26/03/2014 13:34

Aw ari torture for you sending positive dust your way for tomorrow, think I'd of caved and tested by now :/

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Arianrhod · 26/03/2014 13:42

I can't Mel, I'm too scared to see another faint line :(

Pebbles73 · 26/03/2014 13:48

I really feel for you Ari it's such a torture and I would defo have caved in and tested! Still have everything crossed for you, big hugs.

Arianrhod · 26/03/2014 13:54

Thanks pebbles. I didn't realise I was such a chicken, I'd almost rather NOT test tomorrow and not have to face it! First time for me, I'm usually a serial tester :)

Pebbles73 · 26/03/2014 14:00

It's nice to love in ignorance for a while, my dh never wants me to test!!

Arianrhod · 26/03/2014 14:10

My OH doesn't even know tomorrow is test day. His Dad has just been diagnosed with a brain tumour as well as lung cancer, they've given him 6 months to a year to live. :( So he's completely tied up with that, I haven't got the heart to say anything much about this as well. I still don't even know whether he wants it to work or doesn't care less!

Arianrhod · 26/03/2014 14:15

I don't mean that heartlessly, by the way - I don't in any way think this IVF cycle is more important, OH's Dad is a wonderful man and I'm as devastated by the news as OH to be honest. I just meant much as I don't want to burden OH any more than he already is, I don't actually know whether he cares less whether this works anyway.

I'm sure you knew what I meant!

Mel3062 · 26/03/2014 14:54

Aw Hun so sorry to hear that. I know what you mean about the tests too :/
I've gone and bought yet more bogof frer at boots.
Just waiting to go into acupuncture. Hubby's been away last night when got pos opk (clearblue digi was mon so Dtd then) hoping to Dtd tonight but his dad's gone in for a spinal op so I don't want to be a nag but we really need to tonight, it's so difficult isn't it x

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Arianrhod · 26/03/2014 15:03

Oh lord yes, hope all goes well for your DH's Dad. You know that they're feeling the strain with worrying about their Dads, but at the same time you have the pressure of only one point in a month to grab that egg.

By the way, I don't know how much they are in Boots with their BOGOF but a twin pack of FRER is only £6 on Amazon at the moment.

Mel3062 · 26/03/2014 16:13

Normally get them boots is £10.50 for 4 saving £1.50all counts!

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Mel3062 · 26/03/2014 16:44

Mums nearly 80 just had hip op and not recovered and now needs a nodule off her lung before it goes nasty and all she wants is to see me get my dream. Pressures on :( ari I hope you'll have uplifting news tomorrow x

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