The hut of gl/doom: ttc against the odds

[PhoenixFromTheFlames]

This is a safe haven for those ttc with difficult, with ?sub-fertility or sub-fertility labels. Where like minded people offer encouragement at times and commiserations at others.
I've decided the theme is Cocktail style: Flanagans. With a pink neon sign: Cocktails and dreams. Blinkity blink.
Newbies are welcome. Come share your tales of woe

If only there was carrie !! Can I make my magic pill chocolate flavour please??!

As long as we're making orders mines a cookies and cream

I can't decide between fish food or half baked. Did I also tell you that this magic pill makes you lose a few pounds and you glow all the way through your pregnancy.
Its still suprises me that with all the technology and medical advances we have that when it come to the miracle of babymaking and why it doesn't work for some people the doctors are still using a lot of guess work

Well I couldn't wait and got a FRPT and BFN. It says you can test up to 6 days early and I am not due for four days (although have been shorter since HSG) so its safe to say I am not. Also now have cramps so AF is due. Clomid didn't work and not sure I can handle another month of O pain like that. Its bad enough my AF cripples me I can't have another 4 days out the month were i have to quietly die at work.

Out last night with friends - one a smug preggers. Felt slightly jealous - but watching her gaze longingly at the alcohol made me feel slightly better.

Starting to get a little bit more unpacking done, so much so we might have to do a tip run with some of the cardboard boxes later.

carrie :( for your BFN Clomid didn't agree with me either - and part of me blames it for my rubbish egg reserve now.

We are still of to our consultant appointment on Wednesday, not expecting much though.

I ovulate fine so still a bit hmm about being on it and having no monitoring. I am going to give it another go but also call clinic and ask for an appointment to monitor.
I am jealous you have a new place lol I hate where I live and its not big enough for us to adopt but at the moment a move is financially unavailable hmfff.
I don't really drink but I think its about time I started lol

Hello, please can I join you?

We have been trying to conceive DC2 for 3 years. Over the last year I have started 5 IVF cycles, which have either been unsuccessful or been cancelled due to failure to respond to the drugs. The latest one was cancelled this morning. I seem to have womb lining issues, for some reason it doesn't thicken up beyond 6mm maximum.

Today a very kind doctor said she thought my chances of getting pregnant were very small and gently suggested we don't continue with IVF but that we should think about surrogacy if that's at all an option for us.

I have no idea what to do. Get a second opinion? Look into surrogacy? Carry on dtd in the hope we will have a miracle? (highly unlikely) Give up on the whole idea? (devastating).

To top it all, the girl I sit next to at work is pregnant with her second and some close friends of ours are expecting their fourth baby this summer. Obviously, along with millions of other friends of mine who are also pregnant.

Would really appreciate any advice and support on this thread and if I can support any of you ladies I would be happy to

Welcome Danni it seems like you have been through the mill.
What do you think about it all?

Well had a lovely chilled weekend at my mums then with the in laws their brood of 4 dogs is now 5

Nasal spray is a nightmare! Tastes vile and found nothing yet (been 5 days) that gets rid of the taste. To top it off I have started spotting after 10 days of provera and have booked a leg wax on my birthday (Thursday) maybe birthday cake will get rid if the taste of the Synarel with any luck!

Hope everyone else had a lovely weekend

Hi danny I'm in a similar position - expecting to be told tomorrow that IVF is a non starter. It really does suck.

I have eaten industrial quantities of wine and chocolate this weekend, not the most healthy thing to do, but it has made me feel a bit better.

I hope everyone had a good long weekend, I too was on the industrial quantities of wine and chocolate (or rather cake. Jolly good it was too).

delilah Good luck with the appointment today. What did the consultant say about IVF? How do you feel about adoption?

carrie I think you need to insist on monitoring - even if it means being a bit of an arsehole at the doctor's.

Welcome to danny. Just wondering whether you had any difficulties conceiving DC1 and how long ago that was? I suppose that might impact on your decision on whether to stop with IVF or not? How do you feel about surrogacy or indeed adoption?

Another vote here for a cookies&cream pregnancy pill. On that note, did anyone see the documentary Google Baby? Basically - a man in Israel has set up a business which pretty much makes babies for people. You either provide sperm & egg or use donors, his doctors in Israel create the frozen embryos and they then get shipped to India where they are carried and delivered by surrogate mothers.

As much as I wish modern science had figured out a way for all women who wish to have a child to be able to do so, that docu really made me feel a bit nauseous. The worst bit was when they started talking about selective abortions (in the case of unwanted multiples)

Thanks everyone for your messages. I did randomly take Clomid to conceive DS but that was over 5 years ago, and ovulating doesn't seem to be a problem now .

DH and I have been discussing both surrogacy and adoption, and I think we would potentially consider either. But before we do I think I have to come to terms with not being able to carry another baby. Obviously it makes us all the more grateful for DS (goes without saying)

So sorry to hear you are in a similar position Delilah I hope your appointment today went better than you we expecting.

summer wow that documentary does sound quite scary, although sadly I think women can understandably get quite desperate

It's my bday tomorrow so just been to see American reunion was v good

How was your appointment Delilah hope all went well...

I tried clomid too for 8 cycles but never worked for me not even to ovulate so at least clomid gave u ds

Still on the Synarel appointment for a day 0 scan on Tuesday! Fingers crossed were all go for the injections

Happy birthday Pink. Hope all went well Delilah.
Still no sign of AF but I know its only a matter if time. Had massive hot flushes and night sweats last night. No cover and I was soaked through

Happy birthday pink! Hope it goes well on Tuesday.
Thinking of you Delilah.
Welcome to danny, I think you'll fit in well here.
I've just been busy unpacking since I'm finally home :) its a bit weird but it's nice to be back.

Hey all, and thanks for the thoughts.

Appointment yesterday was OK. I must admit I have lost all hope, which is strangely freeing.
The consultant was reasonably positive - given I am still young it is likely to be a quantity rather than quality issue, and they would be happy to offer me treatment - if my FSH drops. I have to test at the start of each cycle for the next couple of months. Maybe because the last blood test was done in the middle of moving house and after Ofsted at work, it was artificially high due to stress.
So - more blood tests, I will see if my GP can do them, or it will be a case of making my way to London sometime next week. I don't actually think my FSH will come down, but might as well give it a go.

Faith glad to hear you are settling in. We still have loads of boxes to unpack.
pink Happy Birthday! Thinking of you as you go through all this IVF - I always hated the injections bit, and made DH do them, whilst I laid back with my eyes screwed up.
Danny I have considered adoption on and off - at the moment it's a probably not, as DH wants us to try a bit more treatment. I think I would prefer fostering older children - something I want to do even if we eventually have a DC of our own.
summer I missed that documentary. I know before I discovered I was infertile, I was even slightly against IVF (when I thought about it) - but then I discovered my problems and just wanted a solution. I can certainly understand some women's desperation to be a mother.
carrie AF never arrives when you want her, does she? Maybe heading out in some white trousers without a change of clothes will bring her on... :)

Lol good thought Delilah but I'm a little gothy so I don't own anything white not even a pair of pants. Massive hot flush at my desk, I work with a lot of middle aged women so while they were sympathetic they also laughed a lot lol. My fringe ended up everywhere but I have a fan now. That was this morning and had no more issues since then thank god

Happy birthday pink. I hope you have a lovely day. I really enjoyed American Reunion too - made me feel like I was 15 again :)

delilah I'm glad to hear the consultant was positive, even if it doesn't seem like you wound up particularly feeling that way...? Fingers crossed that your last bloods were indeed altered by stress and that your FSH levels come down to a level that your consultant is happy with.

danny I think you're absolutely right re coming to terms with not having another birth child before going down the surrogacy/adoption route. There are some very positive stories on the adoption board here. Sometimes I feel as though however we end up having our children we will love them and not wish anything had been different or they would have been different - if that makes any sense at all.

just popping in to let you know that my surgery seemed to do the trick and I got a BFP yesterday morning. Not getting excited just yet after what happened at the beginning of the year, but i feel different this time and think this might be a sticky bean.

Oh queen that is wonderful, wonderful news. My fingers are very tightly crossed for you that this pregnancy is a long (well, 9 months long) and healthy one for both you and the little person currently growing inside you. Hugest congratulations x

Oh my goodness queen congratulations!

Fingers crossed for you we're all going through the struggle and some good news was due soon! Woohoo I understand you being anxious ive decided that's the best way to be when your in our position!!!

So happy for you what's next in terms
Of doctors and things... U going to phone Monday?

Congrats queen that's awesome news :)

Congrats queen that's fab!

pink i'm unsure what to do so may have to double whammy. My cons said to get in touch if I got diffed because I am at increased risk of ectopic and will need early scan. My surgeon said I needed to go straight to my GP if I got diffed for the same reason.
So i'm not sure on the best approach. I think I will make a GP appt and also e-mail my Cons secretary to see what she says.

Def double whammy queen, the more care you get at this point the better surely?

Sounds silly but I was over the moon today to receive a questionnaire from the fertility clinic. Once they get it back we'll get an appointment.

Some of the questions were a bit weird; they asked for both of us whether we'd been involved in any previous pregnancies (makes sense) and whether we'd had any previous 'live in' relationships (is that really relevant? and surely negated by the previous pregnancies question?) Anyway...