The hut of gl/doom: ttc against the odds

[PhoenixFromTheFlames]

This is a safe haven for those ttc with difficult, with ?sub-fertility or sub-fertility labels. Where like minded people offer encouragement at times and commiserations at others.
I've decided the theme is Cocktail style: Flanagans. With a pink neon sign: Cocktails and dreams. Blinkity blink.
Newbies are welcome. Come share your tales of woe

Hi faith, im not sure of my bmi but im 5"8 and 17st2, i am visibly overweight I'm aware of that but i was a stone heavier when i conceived DS which is why I don't think doctors should be persecuting me for it. Apparently its not a gp issue its the consultants choice! I could fight it i know i could but at the moment i just don't have that fight in me!
Pco/s is suspected, my left ovary appeared for want of a better word shrivelled on an ultrasound, however the related hormone blood test was negative so the GP would bot confirm the diagnosis? I just feel so as the GP didnt seem to be willing to do anything else. I can make another appointment etc and fight and push (I'm gradually loosing weight) but part of me feels like why should it be this hard??
I think with clomid or metformin i'd conceive easily as it is just cycle length / not knowing when I ov/ if i ov! I say metformin as i had GD with ds so i wonder if my issues are insulin related?
I was just at the beginning of having tests (under consultant) when I fell pg with DS, so logically being lighter I should be able to at least have those done? It just all feels so bloody foreign. For example I don't know what the process would be to get from Consultant to a prescription? Or even if GP could prescribe either?

Sorry this is more of a mind dump, im just so sick of it all, i feel like im barely holding everything together

I would go back to your GP - show that you've been losing the weight and kept up your side of the bargain. Yes if it is PCOS with insulin resistance then the irony is that that will in fact make it more difficult to lose weight!
Afaik, the GP can't prescribe clomid, it would have to be consultant based on diagnosis. I went to see gynae/endo consultant and first appt they talked through history, arranged more bloods and a Hsg and pelvic ultrasound. I think if they'd found anything significant I'd have been called back sooner to offer treatment options. Since my tests all came back a-ok and it was obvious it was male factor, I wasn't actually expecting another appointment. Of course, my follow up has just come through. Doubt they'll offer me anything this time though because everyone seems to think I'm likely to get diffed soon now DH's issues have resolved. In fact I'm about 7dpo with a rather nice looking chart, so who knows?

Well fingers crossed faith! I think i will have to go back to the doctors as this has gone on long enough!

Just a v quick one here...

After a meal out and long discussion with DH we are doing another IVF cycle this summer. I always said never again, and have been looking forward to adoption - but he said that he didn't feel we have tried enough, and that we are both still young (I'm 32) so we should really give it another go.

So, appointment with GP to get loads of blood tests done again and to tell him what we are doing tomorrow, and I am sending my registration form off the ARGC with copies of all our previous notes at some point soon.

Hopefully cycling over the summer holidays when work stress doesn't get in the way.

faith got fingers crossed for you - hopefully this will be your month.

BB Nothing to say except go back to your GP - hopefully you can get things clarified.

Delilah hope it works for you!

Anyone know how much / easy it would be to get clomid prescribed privately? I really am feeling I would rather pay than try and get treatment from the NHS! I may look up the guidelines and go in all guns blazing!

Very stressed and very tired and totally fed up. Sick of insesnitive friends and their tales of woe regarding contraception

pink all the best for today! Let us know how you get on.
delilah I'm glad your DH still has a positive attitude like let's give it another shot I'll be praying this one is successful!
queen how are you feeling? It'll all be over soon.
BB I'd be inclined to go back to your GP first before you go private. I don't know about costs etc for that I'm afraid
Carrie sounds like you're making the right decision for you then. I hope the break de-stresses you.
I'm cd19 now, 8dpo. Still got a neat looking chart so I'll just keep admiring it and wait and see_

didn't sleep too well last night, but I expected that. I'll be the same tonight probably, and have to get up at 5.30 for my morning cuppa - I really need to keep on top of my anxiety. Was a grumpy, shouty person yesterday and then at DS bedtime I came over all shaky and my heart felt like it was coming out of my chest.
I really, really hope I'm high up the surgery list. I feel for DH too who has had the day off work and essentially will drop me at the hospital and then come home and wait for a phone call to come and pick me up again. He'll be sat here worrying about me.
I just hope with all my heart that when they get in there it's a straightforward fix. If he finds loads of adhesions and wants to operate again I'm not sure I can go through all of this.

Can't your DH stay at the hospital. Mine always did and I wasn't down too long. Its nice to have someone there to hold yor hand until you go down and my hospital was really good with it and never said no.

Bless you. Nothing I can really say to help other than we're here for you. Hoping and praying it is straightforward. Have they said how likely it is that they will find adhesions based on your previous scans?
I've rung and rearranged my gynae appt. Am rather pissed off that because I DNA'd they had automatically discharged me! So the secretary removed my DNA and got me another appointment for Friday this week. Only downside is I doubt DH will be able to come. I'm not even sure what they'll say/offer? Probably just that I'm likely to get diffed soon, maybe just offer DH a repeat SA to check his swimmers are ok I guess.

carrie to adhere to their 'same sex ward policy' and because of 'limited space' no-one is allowed to stay with me while I wait to go down to surgery.

faith as you know my Cons is rubbish. he basically told me that my HSG showed the blocked left tube and hydro, and that he would either be opening it and flushing it or clipping it during this surgery. He never mentioned adhesions at all, or that there could be other problems. I only know this because it was written at the top of the pre-op paperwork on Friday. One sentence across the top - exploratory to see level of adhesions. The pre-op nurse asked me if I knew what was happening during surgery and when I told her she said yes, he's looking to see how patent your womb is as well as the tubes. Then she went quiet.
So I'm really hoping it's straightforward. To be honest before Christmas when I was waiting for this surgery I felt very positive about it, and not really quite so scared of having it done. I wish I could get that positivity back....

To be honest, I don't think any of the hutters are brimming with positivity at the moment! I think the hardships of life have ground is down lately. Like I want to go home
If he's put the adhesions stuff in as a possible option, he's not necessarily expecting them to need anything but is preparing to have a look at them/sort them if they are there. I think all you can do is keep taking deep breaths and try to keep yourself calm. It could well be straightforward.

Awww woohoo for another shot at ivf

I've had my apt today and we are beginning our 1st round of ivf on the 25th may very excited as our chances are quite high they said but not getting too excited as we hav already seen that its keeping a bubba that appears to be the issue now

Hope everyone is feeling a bit better today

my DH has returned from work via Waitrose and has brought me smoked salmon and cake for dinner

That sounds really encouraging pink! Not too long to wait then? What do you have to do to prepare?
queen hope you enjoyed the dinner :)
I'm still in quite a lot of pain :( not sure if it's.worth.going back to my GP, what else will they offer me?!

I have been back to my gp and still blood in urine 3 weeks later! I have been signed off work for a week and feel so guilty. Now waiting on kidney ultrasound. Gp could see stones in my sample. I thought everyone had bits in their sample whoops because I have had that for the last year whenever I have collected for pregnancy tests and I've done a lot of them.
Feeling very fed up and been sick yet again tonight, trying to look at positives so at least I am losing weight lol.
Clinic on thursday to see what they are suggesting for next step and to let them know about two month break. I can't see them doing or giving us anything while I am unwell.
Good luck Queen, Its stupid when they put things on paperwork and don't explain. I was told after my ultrasound that it all looked fine but paperwork said cyst and had measurements on it!. Adhesions aren't too bad I have them from my appendix but that was over ten years ago

Nothing at the mo faith only folic acid supplements then I start the progesterone to induce a bleed (as I don't have them) along with the nasal spray so it looks like its all go this end

morning all.

ugh. didn't sleep well, but then I was expecting that. I was lying in bed thinking 'my alarm will probably go off soon'....then when I gave in and looked it was 3.15 so I counted to keep my brain busy and did get back off, but I was deep asleep at 5.30 when the alarm did go. I've had my morning cuppa (black with a smidge of sugar), and just about to jump in the shower. I can't stop bloody yawning, I am sooooo knackered.
Couldn't get a movie onto the iPod (nothing in the right format downloaded), the notebook computer decided to have a hissy fit (typical) so I have sorted a playlist of relaxing music to listen to instead and have a book with me. Mind you if i still feel like this when I get to the ward I'll be nodding off!!
Wish me luck girls. I just want it over with, nerves starting to get really bad now. Have a feeling I'll be a gibbering wreck by the time they take me down to theatre.

Good luck queen, I'm sure you'll be ok, it'll soon be over! So try to keep yourself calm. Here's hoping you're high up the list.

Thinking of you queen, hopefully you had a really nice sleep under GA and are recovering right now.

Faith hoping you are in a bit less pain, and the GP did some good.

pink Good luck for your IVF cycle! I have asked for our initial consultation to be in June, so will be way behind you. I'm sure the time will go very quickly though.

carrie Enjoy (if that's possible) being signed off and relaxing at home. If you are ill you need to relax and recover.

House update first - we finally got our mortgage offer through, so fingers crossed will get Exchange and Completion dates confirmed soon, as everything else has been done. I think that means I need to get on with packing.

Secondly, talking supplements... has anyone heard of DHEA? My last consultant recommended it if we ever chose to cycle again, but I wonder if anyone others to recommend. I shall be buying/taking so many I rattle!

Oh, and I've had an email from ARGC to say they have received all my paperwork already, and an appointment will be in the post soon.

I'm really pleased to hear your mortgage offer came through Delilah. I chose to stay in today to wait for my new phone :) writing on it now! Still getting used to it! I was hoping I'd feel better but my pain flared up again so I will be going tomorrow, can't carry on like this, I'm going backwards!
queen I'm hoping you're all done now lovely and on the road to recovery. Let us know how you are when you can.

home, woozy. it was fine and i will update properly when I feel like I am back on this planet.

Well done queen hope your relaxing at home

Congrats on the mortgage offer Delilah and if you do find out about those supplements let me know every little helps as they say

Hello to everyone else and faith hope your feeling better??

queen I'm glad it's done and went ok. Rest up, hope to hear from you when you've slept a bit!
Unfortunately I'm going in the wrong direction I think, pain has got much worse, started on Friday but really bad today so I'm off to the docs tomorrow.