Number 10 petition to criminalise men who buy sex

[policywonk]

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i just can't get past the fact that legalisation of brothels = saying to all men, regardless of proclivity or purse, that women are available to be bought for sex. is that the message we should be sending to young men and women today?

criminalisation of men likely won't destroy prostitution but at least it says that as a society we feel that the person who is doing the penetrating is the one who is responsible for the act.

and this isn't my area but i am close with someone who works with prostituted women and i know that she feels that the women with whom she is in contact will be more protected by this change than by working in legal brothels.

no

Ah, TheSheikingHarpy, I was under the misunderstanding that in this discussion we cared about the prostitute. I really couldn't give a damn about the john. In my mind the john is a despicable person who should be punished, not provided for.

I think there is a counterargument to the all prostitution is bad approach that can be made that people have the right to do what they like with their own bodies, which I personally don't agree with either philosophically or given the impact in the real world, but why anyone should feel the need to advocate for the right to buy sex without repercussion I find very difficult to understand.

Can I just ask why is there such a big growth in the underground/organised crime scene in places where prositution has been legalised?

Sorry for my ignorance, but I would have thought it would be the opposite, that there would be no need for it to go underground.

Also, is it correct that at the moment the sex worker is criminalised for selling sex?

Hope you don't mind me asking but I've just read the thread with a lot of interest and it's given me a lot of thought, but there are a few things I don't really understand.
Thanks.

dittany look at the post immediately following op.

its a no

count the other no's and you will see we dont all concur

so please refrain from histrionics and personalising this because i said no

i don't think she's trying to be impartial, is she? she's fully on the side of the women in the piece, but i'm nevertheless interested in your response to it.

having watched a few of these fun, jazzy 'isn't nevada a laff?' shows on bbc3 (bearing in mind dennis hoffs or whatever his name is was pleased with them), i thought it was very clear that the women were very damaged indeed. also louis theroux went out and spent time in one of them, possibly the moonlight bunny ranch i think, did you see that show? he really did not find empowered women there, he found women who had been through terrible, terrible experiences. and bear in mind that the filming in each case was sanctioned, so you'd have to think that they were all on best behaviour.

i don't understand your response to stayfrosty, her point was that the most vulnerable will fall through the regulated cracks as well, so there's no point in advocating regulated brothels as they won't be in a position to accept under-age and drug-addicted women. anyway, who do you imagine will run these brothels?