The sad case of Meredith Kercher

[FreeGeorgeJackson]

I feel for her parents. The trial seems to have gone on for ages doenst it?
I cant see ( form what i read) how kNox will get off.

Guede was not a stranger to the house. He had been there to visit the men who lived downstairs.

He was a stranger to Sollecito and a relative stranger to Amanda Knox and Meredith Kercher.

"The police's arrival at the house is recorded with great accuracy"

at least one inacurrate recording of police movements was made.

"The first event definitely preceded the second"

not definitely. There is CCTV footage of the Police vehicle in a certain place at a certain time but nothing other than human testimony to verify the time they arrived at the house. Human error happens.

ps - it's not just me who is 'seriously deluded' other posters have the same opinion RE the evidence and I am pretty sure none of us have any kind of special relationship to the case.

It seems impossible to extricate what is hearsay from what is real witness observation.

it does

I still can't find anything which shows a statement was made in court about Knox holding the mop. Not been able to find anything to say that the clothes in the washing machine had been cleaned with Bleach either.

well, whether he had visited the men downstairs or not still doesn't mean that on visiting meredith upstairs alone and killing her he would then hang about cleaning.

He would not have known the comings and goings of the other residents of the house and it must have been clear to him that Meredith didn't live there alone, so why risk being caught at the scene.

She did mention using the mop in her statement though. I wonder why she did that if it were not for the fact she needed a reason to explain the mop. Conjecture of course.

Dunno - why would anyone risk being caught at the scene? It applies to any suspect in this case, no?

"She did mention using the mop in her statement though"

which statement?

DF has backed up absolutely every single argument with a link, and don't think it's kind to suggest she is deluded.

And she isn't alone in having reservations about some of the physical evidence. The New Scientist cites the problem with the process of amplification of small amounts of DNA and how prone it can be to picking up and copying other cell replication.

What about other trace evidence? DNA doesn't exist in isolation.

this statement?

I don't see that as her having to explain using the mop. Maybe they did ask her to explain using the mop or maybe she was just going through what she did that morning. Whatever the reason it's hardly incriminating as none of the Victim's DNA was found on the Mop anyway. If it had been used to mop up blood there would have been DNA on it.

"However, it was under this pressure and after many hours of confusion that my mind came up with these answers...But I've said this many times so as to make myself clear: these things seem unreal to me, like a dream, and I am unsure if they are real things that happened or are just dreams my head has made to try to answer the questions in my head and the questions I am being asked."

still doesn't sound like any kind of confession to me.

"Amanda's DNA mixed with Meredith's blood on the other hand is explained away by her defense as her living there."

Slightly off-topic...

weirdly - parts of the TrueJustice site are still claiming that Amanda's blood was found mixed with Meredith's.

Am sure they don't mean to mislead but it's a little odd to state this as fact.

She mentions the mop in that link you provided about where she was. She also mentions it in her statement I think.

yes it should have had dna on it. Unless it had been incredibly thoroughly washed.

it would be very hard to get rid of AK and RS's fingerprints from the scene of the crime and leave Guede's intact, wouldn't it?

"Even if the mop had been doused in bleach, for example?"

I think that it is generally accepted that it's really very hard to wash DNA evidence off things. The knife they claim is the murder weapon, they (the prosecution) also claim was washed in bleach and still supposedly has Meredith and Amanda's DNA on it!

apologies, I mean it still doesn't sound like a statement of guilt or that she was in anyway confident about her previous statments given while under duress.

another slightly off topic point I thought a bit odd was that they both switched their phones back on at 6am.

What students are up at 6am unless they've been up all night?

Up all night cleaning perhaps? You know they would have been cleaning for a good few hours before the police showed up the next morning. Enough to give the place a good couple of goings over and then to clean the cleaning apperatus leaving it clean of blood and dna.

"DF - do you think in another life you would have liked to be a detective?"

oh yes. I wanted to be a Lawyer when I was a child until a lawyer friend of my dad's told me how many years I would have to study for
essentially I am too lazy.

No, that would be fairly normal.
Remember the night before is a hoooge public holiday in Italy, so a late night would be the norm. Many night spots close as it's getting light. Also, even after a hard night bleaching apartments carousing Italians are notoriously early risers. 6am is a lie in.

What I said about 25 pages ago that I found odd, although not in itself incriminating, is that any Italian young person (the most mobile obsessed people on the planet) would ever have a mobile switched off in the first place.