The sad case of Meredith Kercher

[FreeGeorgeJackson]

I feel for her parents. The trial seems to have gone on for ages doenst it?
I cant see ( form what i read) how kNox will get off.

Yes Dittany. I get it. She testified on the stand that she had met him. She also testified on the stand that they did not have a relationship and she did not know him well enough to have remembered his name.

Fair enough.

that was the non point I was making

This is the kind of reporting which makes me

"RANDY Amanda Knox told an Italian court she brought a string of men back to the house she shared with murdered Brit Meredith Kercher.

Yesterday Knox, 21, nicknamed Foxy Knoxy, admitted she had only met Sollecito six days before the murder.

She told the court: "I slept with Sollecito the first time I met him."

The pair also had a love of drugs, with Knox adding: "Sometimes we smoked marijuana together."

She said she had brought two male friends to the house - one called Juba who took her home from work and another called Spiros who wanted to listen to her play the guitar.

Knox also revealed she had a "one-night stand" with a man named only as Daniele."

why on earth would any of that be relevant?

The details i.e "randy amanda Knox, nicknamed Foxy Knoxy" are just sensationalist, in the same way as the media might report on someone's profession or the value of their house.

But the rest pains a picture, builds a profile of the character. e.g. that she slept around and regularly took strangers back to the flat, that they regularly did drugs shows lack of judgement on her part and perhaps even a tendency to live dangerously..

"But the rest pains a picture, builds a profile of the character. e.g. that she slept around and regularly took strangers back to the flat, that they regularly did drugs shows lack of judgement on her part and perhaps even a tendency to live dangerously"

I guess so. This is what they did in court. I think it's quite awful to think if I were in court for something I might have my sexual history used against me

her testimony she first met Guede through the guys who lived below.

I think she was involved however all the media hype, her sexual personality etc was very much bought up before the trial and, in contrast, very little on the two men involved. There is no way the jury wouldn't have heard of her pre trial and then possibly influenced - they are human.

I think there was an element of sexism in this case but I think that in this instance the verdict was correct.

Here's how it was reported from teh court appearance in other news outlets

"Ms Knox replied: ``I heard she had her throat slit, and from what I saw on CSI, these things are not quick or pleasant, so I said, `Gosh ... bleargh ... this brutality, this death ... bleargh' ... it really did shock me,'' Ms Knox replied.

``It was a disgusting death. I imagined it was a slow death, a death that was shocking, yucky, disgusting"

and

""I heard that her throat had been slit and from what I have seen on CSI, it is not something fast or easy. Blegh," she said, making a gagging motion. "Blegh. It is disgusting. The brutality, to die that way."

I am guessing the report you have linked to have interpreted the 'blergh' part of her statement to be an imitation of the sound.

plus - she was not "Speculating on Kercher's slow death" she was answering questions in court.

thing is, even if you didn't know someone at all, most people would be traumatised by a murder in their house, no? Even if you couldn't feel anything for the victim because you didn't know them, would you not feel horror at the act itself? shocked that there but for the grace of God, it could have been you?

yes wannabe - I totally agree - you'd be thinking you could have been the victim instead. You'd be horrified to think this had happened to your flat mate, somebody you knew, in the bedroom next to yours.

I wouldn't want to be on camera as I'd be so upset if that had happened in my life.

I don't want to speculate on those matters as I feel it is disrespectful to MK's family. However it does seem as if AK has had a complete compassion bypass, for whatever reason. However women are often judged because they don't act with the compassion or emotion expected. My gut reaction is to distrust AK completely but that is probably irrelevant.

I don't see why it's wrong to have a complete distrust of her. She is a convicted murderer after all.

I haven't been following the case as closely as others here so I apologise if this has already been dealt with, - but one thing I don't understand is why did Rudy Guede do all this cleaning up if the attack was a random chance event?

Burglers high on drugs who murder in a frenzy when they encounter somebody in the house they are breaking into would normally flee the scene immediately.

He didn't know if someone was going to walk through the front door at any minute?

He wouldn't have known where all their cleaning products were and where to put them back. I'm not saying he couldn't have guessed they would be in the kitchen - but if you're in an agitated state and alone in a strange house..?

Had he ever met Meredith? Meaning did he plan to break in and rape and kill her? (which might explain the cleaning up) If not, then was it purely burglary that went wrong? (which in my mind would make him cleaning up seem unlikely)

From what I have read there was no evidence that ANYONE cleaned anything up. Well other than someone cleaning themselves up in the bathroom - hence the footprint. Evidence of a clean up was not presented in court. There was NO DNA evidence that put AK in Meredith's room, but there was plenty of Guede's. The ONLY DNA evidence that put S in the room was the bit on the bra catch which had been knocking round on the floor for weeks.

PS my point about Colin Stagg earlier was the press had decided already that he was guilty. Even though in fact he wasn't. There was dodgy circumstancial case built against him by the police/psychologists.....

though David Canter who was involved in the honeytrap operation - and was convinced that Colin Stagg was a strong suspect (obviously not always right - but he has had other successes) has this to say:

Knox seemed to lack many of the typical hallmarks of sexually motivated murderers and as such she presented an unlikely offender profile.

?Most bizarre murders, particularly those with a lot of sexual activity and if there are drugs involved, come out of a lifestyle that?s pretty dysfunctional in which there?s some sort of build-up. So it?s unusual for apparently capable and functioning youngsters to get caught up in all this,? he said.

Now I am not speculating at all on motive or on AKs demeanor, but I still don't think the evidence presented is sufficient to warrant a guilty verdict.

I saw the photo of the bath mat - and photos of G and S's footprints - the partial print on the mat was a closer match to G's foot than S's. I don't know how it got there, but there was NO EVIDENCE of a clean up. Hence to say IF anyone did, and who that person might be is purely speculation.

Who discovered the body, and was it behind a locked door?