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The sad case of Meredith Kercher

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FreeGeorgeJackson · 03/12/2009 18:11

I feel for her parents. The trial seems to have gone on for ages doenst it?
I cant see ( form what i read) how kNox will get off.

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LeninGrad · 08/12/2009 13:10

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DuelingFanjo · 08/12/2009 13:14

As poppity has said there are lots of places to find more information about some of the myths which have spring up.

freinds of Amanda is one.

Also this video of the bathroom at the crime scene which is what Amanda would have seen if her story about arriving home and taking a shower is to be belived. Very different to the pictures of the bathroom which have been in the press recently.

DuelingFanjo · 08/12/2009 13:17

"I'm surprised one or all of them haven't just pointed the finger squarely at each other yet. Maybe they will on appeal or maybe all three did do it."

Guede has. he has pointed the finger at both the others. AK and RS have never pointed the finger at eachother, RS did at one point say he wasn't sure if AK had spent the whole night at his house on the night of the murder.

Poppity · 08/12/2009 13:22

Lenin, I know what you mean, they have stopped short of printing the evidence that Meredith's family asked to be presented behind closed doors (although, I think I remember them asking for the whole case to be private?).

I think those posters on here who are in Italy probably have the truest view of things, apart from those who were in the courtroom obviously.

It is interesting and sad how things can be manipulated in such opposite directions by the UK/US media

DuelingFanjo · 08/12/2009 13:28

The Info on the link to truejustice says

"?But perhaps more damning even than the knife was Stefanoni?s testimony that a mix of Knox?s DNA and Kercher?s blood was found on the floor in the bedroom of a third roommate, Filomena Romanelli."

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"That is FOUR different blood samples with mixed Knox-Kercher DNA. Yes, it does seem that the investigative methods were sloppy and not all samples may be reliable "

What you have to take into account is that as the two girls lived together and shared the one bathroom it is not unusual that traces of meredith's blood would have Knox's DNA mixed in with it.

Did this blood have any traces of Guede's DNA in it I wonder?

Also in that same article the writer switches from talking about Meredith's blood being mixed with Amanda's DNA to

"But I have yet to read even one article where a reputable DNA expert can explain why sloppy police procedures would result in four separate mixed blood samples...

why her blood was in the bedroom of Filomena Romanelli (another of her roommates) or why her blood was found mixed with Meredith?s - or why her blood would be recoverable from an area that had been cleaned after the murder to eliminate evidence. "

which seems to suggest that Knox's blood was found mixed in with Meredith's. This is certainly not the case. DNA does not = Blood.

Also - when writing about the evidence from a 'witness' who heard screams and running from the scene the Truejustice site says

" The neighbor was 69 and could not remember exactly the date she heard the screaming, but she was firm that it was the night before Meredith?s murder was discovered."

which seems rather contradictory. She couldn't remember the date but could remember the day? All of this 'evidence' is circumstantial and can't be verified as being anything to do with the murder really. It is weak 'evidence'.

It seems to me that whoever has written those articles on the true justice site is theorising as much as anyone else is about what might have happened.

Again - I would have thought, having got a guilty verdict, they would be better to stick to the facts presented at court.

DuelingFanjo · 08/12/2009 13:31

I mean come on!

"If Amanda were innocent and truthful, wouldn?t her hair three hours later look like it had been washed and blow dried that day? Look again at the photo posted above. It was taken about three hours after the alleged washing and blow drying. Is that the hair of a woman who washed and blow dried her hair three hours earlier? "

^this sort of thing is just silly!

pofacedandproud · 08/12/2009 13:34

If Knox is not guilty, I don't understand why she would lie repeatedly. If she was under duress during her first interview, ok, but she has never made a statement about where she was that makes any sense at all, has she?

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Kathyis12feethighandbites · 08/12/2009 13:38

Yes DF, I looked at that TrueJustice site and found it a bit Miss Marple too - I was expecting it to have hard evidence that the papers have missed but it was all very much opinion.

DuelingFanjo · 08/12/2009 13:43

"but she has never made a statement about where she was that makes any sense at all, has she?"

yes she has. She made a statement to say she was with Sollecito at his flat. I believe that after she retracted the statement where she implicated PL she always stuck to this story. Didn't she?

DuelingFanjo · 08/12/2009 13:46

"Was MK's family satisfied with the trial outcomes"

one of the first questions they were asked at the live press conference was did they think all three people who were convicted were guilty. They answered saying that they had to trust the verdict and the evidence which led to that verdict. They did not let people draw a 'we think they are guilty' statement from them.

They also said that there would certainly be an appeal and they knew that so I think were reluctant to get into discussing any opinions they might have.

To e fair, I think that was all they should be expected to do. It was the courts trying the defendants, not the kerchers.

LeninGrad · 08/12/2009 13:53

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pofacedandproud · 08/12/2009 13:54

But Sollecito couldn't say whether she'd been there or not the whole night. And computer records suggested he was not on his computer when he said he was. though his defense said his computer had been tampered with. It seems incredulous to think the police would actually fix the evidence that much to 'frame' them, doesn't it?
I can believe that she implicated PL under presure. I can't believe that she would say she was in the flat at the time of the murder and put her hands over her ears to drown out the screams, if she had been at Sollecito's flat the whole time. That seems very unlikely.

Sorry, I don't wish to speculate in bad taste, just find those issues very hard to deal with, in light of poor hard evidence.

skihorse · 08/12/2009 13:57

pofaced As I pointed out earlier in this thread - his computer hardware is irrelevant. The ISP (internet company) would've known whether he was online downloading cartoons as he claimed to be. Or not.

Fanjo I think MK's family handled those questions beautifully.

LeninGrad · 08/12/2009 13:58

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pofacedandproud · 08/12/2009 13:59

So he wasn't on his computer then?

I agree MK's family have behaved incredibly graciously throughout.

LeninGrad · 08/12/2009 14:02

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Kathyis12feethighandbites · 08/12/2009 14:04

The Kerchers have behaved admirably and it is a shame that any appeal will mean them being put through the mill again.

LeninGrad · 08/12/2009 14:04

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pofacedandproud · 08/12/2009 14:07

It must be so hard on families where the perpetrators [or those found guilty at least] never tell the truth, not even after conviction.

DuelingFanjo · 08/12/2009 14:10

Personally - I don't think it's unlikely that they fixed teh evidence. Maybe not a popular view but I think they may have.

"But Sollecito couldn't say whether she'd been there or not the whole night"

He made this statement at the same time that Amanda Knox was implicating PL and as far as I recall they both went back to their original statements made before 5th Dec 2007.

RS says he certainly did go to bed with Amanda and wake up with her there in his flat.

"I can't believe that she would say she was in the flat at the time of the murder and put her hands over her ears to drown out the screams"

IIRC the Defence said that Knox was asked to imagine what she might have done had she been there. She retracted this statement pretty sharpish.

after that long night of questioning she made this statement.

"Same concerns here po. But why not just say D and S did it and she foolishly helped cover up? Why aren't S and AK blaming each other? "

because they are innocent?

LeninGrad · 08/12/2009 14:16

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mrsruffallo · 08/12/2009 14:20

Please stop this speculation.
It must be heartbreaking for Meredith's family.
I am sure there is evidence that we are not aware of and the case has been tried fairly in a court of law.
This is in bad taste