The sad case of Meredith Kercher

[FreeGeorgeJackson]

I feel for her parents. The trial seems to have gone on for ages doenst it?
I cant see ( form what i read) how kNox will get off.

I don't know if they're guilty or not but I'd like to think that where there is no political impetus behind getting a guilty verdict (which there clearly was in the Birmingham 6 case so it is not relevant), that people who are convicted of murder are generally guilty. I don't trawl the internet finding bizarre sites that seek to undermine due legal process.

The way Amanda Knox has been portrayed in the media has been vile in the UK. I don't know if that was the same in Italy - many posters seem to say not. But that is a separate issue from questioning whether a verdict was right or wrong. And without all the facts, I can't see how anyone else possibly can either.

i bet people were convinced of the guildford 4's guilt and the birmingham 6, from what they read and heard and it seemed pretty convincing at the time

turned out they were innocent, and gasp! fitted up by the police

which of course, has never happened before or since

I don't think anything salacious has been dissected here though, spicemonster- nobody is posting about the sex life of Knox etc, like some of the media have. All I see is people quite understandably trying to make sense of a high-profile case in which a young woman needlessly lost her life. Surely it is natural to have an opinion and discuss it? I think the tone here has been quite respectful, not at all hysterical or sensationalist. The only comment on the thread which I found in crashingly poor taste was the one gushing about Amanda Knox's looks.

DJ- you will be banging on about this for years, because there's almost certaibnly going to be two more appeal trials. that's the extent of guarantees that the italian judicial system gives to everyone involved in a trial.

i find it quite shocking that people on here think they know better than judges and a jury who have examined the evidence for 2 years. i am very glad Bucharest (who, I can assure you, is one of the most lucid critics of all things italian you'll ever come across) has explained things so well, and i hope no one is harbouring residual suspicions that italian justice is less just than british one.

i have no personal opinion on the guilt of knox and sollecito, but i trust that the jury has found the correct judgement. i have to, because that is the basis on which our society is founded.

it is a horrific case. a young beautiful woman lost her life in horrendous circumstances. and yes i do feel some compassion if not for knox and sollecito then certainly for their families- i keep imagining being the mother who gets a call in the middle of the ngiht to be told- your daughter is dead/your daughter is a murderer. i don't know, honestly, which is worse.

i am sure the media in the us are having a field day accusing italian justice of being a travesty. but then we are still waiting for justice for acts of devastation and murder committed by american soldiers posted in italy which were never tried (for example about 20 years ago an american military plane cut through the wires of a ski cabin lift thingie, and killed tens of people)...

I'm not sure it is natural to have an opinion about any case where you haven't been privvy to all the evidence BitofFun. I agree with the Westsidemasseuse - it's a sorry state of affairs if people are saying that our legal process is inherently flawed. And if people are saying the Italian legal system is flawed whereas the British one isn't, I hope you have a bloody sound foundation for saying that. From what I can see here, most of the posters who believe there has been a miscarriage of justice are basing that opinion on things written on the internet by the defendents friends and families. Hardly a sound basis for any kind of conclusion to be reached I'd have thought.

I certainly don't think that the Italian justice system is flawed, spicemonster- that is not my opinion at all.

DF you are over-emoting over this case, really you are.

They've been found guilty, which seems to me to be a reasonable conclusion from the press reports.

What more is there to say?

"I'm not sure it is natural to have an opinion about any case where you haven't been privvy to all the evidence BitofFun. "

really?

Plenty of people do though. I think it's perfectly natural to have an opinion. I just think it's wrong to have an opinion based upon either no knowledge or incorrect knowledge.

People shuld educate themselves about these things before making sweeping statements about guilt or innocence. same too before making statements about the Italian Legal system.

"What more is there to say?"

honestly, I feel there is a lot to say particularly when people make such incorrect statements about the case.

Seriously DF you've gone utterly loopy over this. Go and play with your children, go out, get drunk and DO NOT WRITE ANOTHER WORD about this case. I'm worried about you now.

DF, you should really ask for permission to post this link....boh!

A defense fund for someone convicted of slaughtering a young woman to death.

I've heard it all now.

FFS.

I hope no one in Miss Kercher's family is reading this.

I do not have any children.

I have been vocal about this yes, I do have a bee in my bonnet about this, yes.

Please do not worry about me, your worry is certainly misplaced. Go and play with YOUR children and try not to get worked in your worry about me, there really is no need.

I am quite happy to pootle about of an evening and dip back into this thread while waiting for my curry to arrive. If you are not then why are you posting here?

"DF, you should really ask for permission to post this link....boh!"

my apologies. I will report it myself and ask for it to be removed.

Should we also remove the links to the two sites set up for Meredith and Amanda?

Have reported it. Apologies again.

I admire your passion, DF. I'm still not sure what I think myself. I have vacillated somewhat. Obviously my strongest feelings are of sympathy for Meredith's family.

I am child-free too today, but sufficiently vapid to slope off to the Xfactor thread for now though

I am of course very sympathetic towards the Kerchers. I can't imagine what it must be like for them. Am sure the uncertainty in the case can't be helpful for them. They have shown so much dignity.

It is possible for me to feel this sympathy while still believing there has been a miscarriage of justice and I will continue to post about this.

Not right now though...

My curry has arrived.

There are plenty of people who still DO think the Birmingham Six and the Guildford Four are guilty.

Really?

Actually I have my suspicions about the B6 and the G4. There is IMO a gulf of difference between "innocence" and "inadmissible evidence".

Being found "not guilty" in a court of law does not in itself prove innocence - I thought this was the very basis of our (English) law! Innocent until proven guilty et al.

Some people on this thread have mentioned Joanna Lees and Peter Falconio case. I've just finished reading the book she wrote and it makes fascinating reading of what was going on behind what was portrayed by the police and media. Well worth a read.

I've always meant to read that- I must look it up.