'snatched' by social workers

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oh ffs

I know it's the Daily Mail but Social workers don't snatch children!

She looks good for 48 mind!

Let us understand the reality of what happens at times. I had a phone call today at about 5.30pm. This was from a mother whose two children have been taken into care mainly because her mother (the grandmother) called the social worker fat.

This is pure evil. The fact that the judiciary tolerate it and that parents' solicitors often roll over and play dead in order to pay their mortgages is fundamentally wrong.

johnhemming - are you seriously telling us you believe that children were taken into care because their grandmother called a social worker fat?

i really think you are fanning the flames here. I am all for admitting that sometimes ss get it wrong but there is no way that a child would be taken into care because a social worker was called names.

anyone see 'when satan came to town?' - some hideous footage of rl sw in action on the video interviews with young children 'snatched' from their beds by sw. yes, it happened 20 years ago but perhaps some of the sw on here could enlighten us on the career paths of those sw on there - cos I'd have thought they'd be sacked but apparently they were promoted. any truth in that? those interviews were appalling to watch - I would never automatically trust a sw to be well trained and professional after seeing that footage

oh yeah, just to add, it happened 20 years ago but they kept one of the kids in care for 10 years for no good reason - so it's not like things improved much in Rochdale social work circles for ten odd years

ceres "johnhemming - are you seriously telling us you believe that children were taken into care because their grandmother called a social worker fat?"

Yes. That may not be the reason used in the judgment, but it is quite clear that at times it is the people who are stroppy and rude to the social workers get their children removed. People like Baby P's mother who appear superfically cooperative and are pleasant and submissive to certain practitioners get left alone.

Yes but John, people who are rude to police officers get arrested, that's nothing new, surely ?

The differences is that the criminal courts release them whereas the family courts get their children adopted.

I think that what does happen a lot is that there is a percentage of social workers who took on the job because they are petty, inadequate, officious fuckwits who want to have power over 'the lower orders'. So they tell people that they must obey and grovel or their DC will be taken away (in fact they are threatening things they can't quite do, but an already distressed parent will give in out of fear of losing the DC). I have heard of one or two other incidents of people having terrible trouble with SS because they dared to disagree with a professional or weren't suitably humble and submissive.

Sadly the courts will accept "not cooperating with professionals" as a sufficient cause to remove a child and get the child adopted.

Why were SS even involved? 100s of children are seen by drs for poor weight gain. What is different about this case? They had already had the 2 weeks that he was an inpatient to 'assess how he was feeding'.

No no not at all, but it's hardly the smartest of moves being personally rude is it and if you said the same to a copper they'd arest you, people know that.

I think it's a bit harsh saying that SW's are power hungry, evil people, I truely believe my friend went into the job with the very best of intentions.

But just like being a fireman or a policeman I also believe that in those jobs the world gets a bit tainted and they start to look for the bad before the good.

Goodness me, how awful

My daughter is 2.4 years old and only weighs 23lbs there's absolutely nothing wrong with her and I would be equally as horrifed if foster care was suggested for her because of her eating habits?

if a police officer arrested anyone from my family cos they called him fat I'd be straight onto whatever their complaints dept is called, I can tell you, and I'd expect that officer to be disciplined. what kind of police state do you think we live in/should live in millymollymoo?

Being verbally abusive to a police officer is an arrestable offense, being verbally abusive to me would be an arrestable offense, what fluffy cloud do you live in if you think you can go around being rude to police and get away with it?

With respect dittany that will not be the reason at all, it might be what made the SW snap and think I've had enough of this shit and exercise her right to remove the children but it will not be "the reason"

Yeeeeees, but being rude to a social worker isn't punishabable by having your children removed, surely? At least not officially anyway

My understanding is that weight gain alone is not a child protection issue.

Look I canot believe it looks like I'm defending her actions because that was not what I intended to do at all, but being personally abusive to somebody who you know is in a position to take the kids is hardly granny's finest hour is it ?

Johnhemming, I just don't believe what you say. I'm not engaging with your nonsense any longer. Apologies to some reasonable people here who want to discuss things properly, I would have liked to have done this with you, but I just can't bear the rubbish that goes with any discussion of my profession.

Sure, lack of physical development could be classified as harm per the Children Act 1989, but in this case, my understanding is that the child was already being reviewed medically.

It's just a bit scary for parents who have underweight (or overweight) children and who are being investigated medically, to be scared that this reason alone is going to flag up social services, as in isolation, it shouldn't.