If the Tories come into power, tax credits could be axed :-O

[GlastonburyGoddess]

In the news today. Im appalled. Talking about how tax credits create a demotivation to earn more etc etc

Im disgusted, no mention of if it would be replaced with something else.

we both work, we get our wages at the end of the month and within 3 days its gone on bils, we then live day to day off the tax credits. we'd be f**d hope they dont end up in power....

no it isn't good, given how much money we save the state. But Tories are unlikely to help. DC was wealthy and had 2 nannies for his disabled child. Probably assumes we all have the same.
You acknowledging that some people are poor not through their own fault?

I had a quick look at the proposals. They want to up allowances for cohabiting couples, (at least it's not 'married' couples) this smacks of 'to the detriment of single parent households'.

Under the old married mans allowance the extra allowance was also given to single parents. The basic child tax credit replaced this, though I can remember one year during the changeover no-one got it.

I hope and pray that the tories don't get in before DD reaches 18 and really worry for other people bringing up children in less than perfect financial set-up's when they do.

yes riven, i am acknowledging that, and i'm sorry for coming across as arsy on here...(has been my problem from day1 on MN)

not sure how much you know about my previous posts..but i am not in favour of letting immigrants into this country, not because i'm racist, but because i'd rather the money was spent on people like you.

i wouldn't fund homosexual drop in centres or anything like that, total waste of tax payers money....and again, not because i'm homophobic, but i'd rather that money go to better causes.

do you see where i'm coming from.?...give money to the people who really need it.

lol
you do know how to wind people up.
so now you have finished with carers, you move on to other minorities.

2shoes...if i was your conservative MP and i knocked on your door promising to give you (a carer) an extra £1000pm because i was going to ban immigrants and cut funding on any "gay" issues...would you vote for me..?

lol, I'm sure the carers would love the next government to take the money off single parents and give it to them instead.

Fortunately most people don't have the 'I'm alright Jack' attitude that DP lives by.

x post, I can see sp's are OK atm.

no, as I wouldn't want to be a racist or a homophobe.
there are lots of other ways to save money without taking it from other needy people.
you do know that homosexuals can be carers to??

abouteve a lot of carers are single parents as well

homosexuals are not "needy" people 2shoes...being gay is not an illness...it's a life style choice...why should they get any money..?

I (sort of) agree with Ego on the finance for different community groups as well (not just homosexual one's but across the board) there are enough charities and funds available outside of government ( I work in local government and get the weekly lists)that can be called on for this purpose why does government have to keep throwing money at them? Vote winners perhaps?

Government are notorious for ring fences money for minority groups that can be accessed elsewhere and if you saw the lists of different groups for each area you would be amazed.

The government has spent billions in it's 12 years financing daft projects only for them to close down/ not be used and then they need a manger, undermanager plus overseers for each group. It is a waste.

I would take the money from people like ego, people who obviously don't need benefits, so take child benefit away from them and any othe benefits they get, i mean they are rich so they don't need it. then there would be more money in the pot, oh and make them pay more taxes.
cos being "rich" isn't an illness it is a life style choice.

since when do LG&B people get Govt money?
As for immigrants, people are not allowed to come here unless they work. Workers pay taxes.
Asylum seekers are not immigrants and may not work until their cases have been heard.
You sound like you are confusing immigrants and asylum seekers like the DM does.
I was an immigrant once. Went to the US for 3 years for better pay.

If you are thinking of schemes for drug addicts, surely that is only good? Help them stay healthy and help them come off drugs. A good use of taxpayers money I reckon.

Of course gay people get government money. Large amounts of it. It's been that way since the 80s, I think the Scarman report was the original source of the 'money for PC causes'.

Have a look at Stonewall's accounts:

www.charity-commission.gov.uk/registeredcharities/ScannedAccounts/Ends55/0001101 255ac20080930ec.pdf

Arts Council England 17,513 -
Big Lottery Fund 42,861 -
Comic Relief 30,000 45,789
Community Fund 13,819 -
Department of Trade & Industry - 303,641
Equality and Human Rights Commission 31,696 -
Esmee Fairbairn Foundation 10,417 -
Focus Group for Community Cohesion - 5,000
Home Office 26,900 -
John Lyon's Charity 20,000 -
JPMorgan Foundation 13,634 36,366
Lloyds TSB Foundation for England and Wales 33,979 21,764
Merthyr Tydfil County Borough Council 5,000 -
Russell Commission 31,944 -
Scottish Executive 157,550 253,845
The Britten-Pears Foundation - 1,000
The Equal Opportunities Commission - 9,000
The Paul Hamlyn Foundation 25,000 30,000
Tse Foundation 20,000 -
Wales Council for Voluntary Action 17,528 -
Welsh Assembly Government 79,273

The majority of that is public money.

not individual LG&B people though?
And not as much as bankers....

The banks generally contribute about £30 billion to taxes and 10% of UK GDP to the UK economy.

The economy was melting down and large amounts of money were spent saving it, but that's not quite the same thing as annual contributions to the 'bankers benevolent fund'.

2shoes, I don't get any benefits apart from c/b.....
I don't mean to sound patronizing here ....
but you haven't got a clue where tax payers money is going, and how much of it is wasted.

I know I am not going to popular when I say I was actually cheered up when Boris Johnson cut funding to the Gay pride march.

Not because I don't think they should have a march, not because I don't think they should be proud to be gay, if they are gay and proud and want to march about it good luck to them, I just don't see why anyone else should have to fund it.

I don't see why my tax money should be spent on anything other than the services this country needs ( infrastructure etc), I certainly wouldn't say it needed a gay pride march especially when we are in a recession.

Not just Boris Johnson, but also www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209841/ROBERT-HARDMAN-The-PC-supermayor-slashed-public-spending-ax ed-pointless-jobs-banned-word-diversity.html

i do aDMIT TO NOT GETTING GAY PRIDE,(sorry shitty keyboard) we have a gay pride say here, the whole of the town comes to a standstill and main roads are shut. yet the childrens parade is in the back streets.
I disagree that being gay is a life style choice, but don't get the pride stuff.

I think marches and carnivals fallunder 'cultural' stuff. Like museums and art galleries.

Lots of things fall under cultural stuff. I went to a 'cultural meeting' of my wife's countryfolk a few weeks ago, involving music and food and so on. No public money was spent. And why should it have been?

Gay people are likewise quite capable of funding their own jollies, AFAIK they tend to have above average per capita incomes.

The state is too big. One less thing to fund is a good thing.

should we close down boring museums then? The big free ones are in London. Why should taxpayers money be spent on Londoners museums?

We get a Govt grant for our disability drop in centre you know....

I'm not sure what disability drop in centres have to do with funding able-bodied affluent people to have street parties.

The musesums used to be charged for, and they are in pretty much every country in the world. It's not sacred to provide free museums, but at least on a matter of principle they are educating people, just as libraries are.

Street parties are an excuse to get drunk - something people can do with their own cash.

public money being spent on things you don't approve of.
Whether its gay marches, museums or disabled centres, someone somewhere will not want public money spent on them because of their personal opinions.