Sarah Palin getting divorced

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admittedly not the world's most respected media outlet, but...

Wonder if this contributed to her resignation?

Well, my point is I think you should examine your own rather combative style of debate. It can't be a coincidence that you get so many people's backs up. (Of course, as I'm a big nasty MAN, that makes it worse. I shouldn't even be here according to you...)

Anyway, no more real points to be made in this thread, so I'm sure it will die a death. Going away as asked. Ta-ta. And take a chill-pill

I've been thinking about your argument on the drive back from work dittany, why is it ok to slag off male politicians and yet if you do the same with female politicians it's misogyny? That's a geniune question, because plenty of people have torn say John Prescott apart because what? He's fat? He's northern? He didn't go to a public school. What's the difference between ridiculing John Prescott when he admitted he had an eating disorder and not ridiculing Sarah Palin because she was so obviously out of her depth?

I think if you give women different a different set of rules then women will never achieve equality.

Will try to later dittany (cooking dinner now), although I did want to discuss a bit beyond Sarah Palin, I meant more in the wider context.

Excellent post Headfairy.

I entirely agree that if you want equality, you won't achieve it by applying different rules to women and men.

I also totally disagree with the view that because sexual discrimination wasn't unlawful in yesteryear, then we need a few hundred years of swinging things the other way in a misguided attempt to 'redress the balance' - that won't achieve anything!

And it is totally unproductive to lay blame on the current generations of adult men, as if they personally are accountable for the wrongdoings of previous generations.

Most women, and men, I believe, want to play things fairly and squarely. They don't want to be judged on the basis of their gender - that's sexism. They want to be judged on their own merits.

Many people are against Palin's policies because they find them narrow, distasteful and downright dangerous. End of.

Thank you Violet.

you are right LG. Of course you are, and I didn't mean any malice by it at all. Just playfully on the edge, I hope.

UQD "There are dozens of people on here I have had really quite strong disagreements with. They all still seem to manage to be nice to me, with one exception. Odd, that."

Actually UQD I find you very irritating. What you are actually doing to Dittany is bullying her and you are encouraging others to join in.

I haven't seen UQD bullying anyone. I've seen Dittany defend Palin and slag Obama ad nauseum on this and other threads and imply that anyone who disagrees with her is in some way

deluded

too stupid to understand her points

misogynist

a self-hating woman (if female)

And it's a self-fulfilling argument, it doesn't seem to matter what you come out with, it boils down to the fact that she's right and you're WRONG (apols for caps, am typing in semi darkness whilst DH watches Top Gear on Sky+ and can't find my shift/number keys to italicise).

Which to me seems like bullying behaviour. It certainly puts me off posting on threads that she's on.

It's an interesting point though why Sarah Palin has resigned as Governor. The widely held assumption was that she was going to launch a presidential campaign, but now that I think about it, Clinton was still Governor when he was elected.

Oh fgs swedes, UD is not bullying anyone, he's merely willing to stand up and challenge some of the more extremist stuff certain posters come out with

imo uqd's line about winding dittany up was goading and uncalled-for, as was pan's about lenin being the thread police. a bit of muscle-flexing, imo.

that said, dittany, you were being a bit of a bloomin' bore. sometimes people just want to have a laugh, y'know. can't even begin to read the 'article' you linked to, the sub-deck is padly punctuated.

lol, badly punctuated.

I'm quite happy to giggle at the personal lives and peccadillos of politicians, tbh. Of whatever stripe. But it's particularly amusing when it's a family values down-home Republican apparently caught with their pants down. (OK, I take Dittany's point that this is gossip not fact.)

Ooh, this thread exploded!

UQD, to answer your question from yesterday morning - I was alerted to this by a few Tweets. Alaska Daily News hasn't yet made it on to my daily media round and I don't scour the web daily for unpleasant things about Sarah Paling

I do think she's a dreadful individual though.

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UQD is great.
I love him being here.
You're only in a flap because he refuses to play neutered Tampax buying fleece wearing drip.

I think it's what Dittany is saying is true.

I don't like Sarah Palin either but there are double standards everywhere in the reporting of politician's 'misdemeanours'. (I think John Prescott is equally badly treated btw).

As a reasonably intelligent adult, however, I think I am not particularly fooled by the press reporting so that doesn't matter. What does matter is that some people probably do believe what they read and vote accordingly.

hey moonie! I buy tampax when needed. AND I have a fleece-lined Levi jacket. Do I qualify for suitable castigation as wuzztastic??