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This story about the Plymouth nursery is worrying

308 replies

crumpet · 09/06/2009 12:21

I hope it's not as serious as it sounds
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8090790.stm

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potplant · 10/06/2009 15:57

Have just read this story and it has sent a chill down my spine - I can't imagine how parents with children at that nursery must be feeling.

The pic on the BBC website looks like most of the girls who work at the nursery my DTs went from.

disillusionedmum · 10/06/2009 16:06

just watched the press conference and would you believe that some of the indecent phone camera pics were "alledgedly" taken at the nursery..i feel sick now and they only gave minimal information! Maybe nursery staff should never be left alone with babies or toddlers again after this.

JeanPoole · 10/06/2009 16:07

photo of her here

Vanessa George, a 39 year old mother of two, was charged with a total of seven offences including two of sexual assault by penetration, two of sexual assault by touching, and one count each of making, possessing and distributing indecent images of children.

Some of the photographs in his possession are believed to have been taken at the nursery in Plymouth.

abraid · 10/06/2009 16:15

I read that too. My blood turned cold. Poor children. Poor parents.

sfxmum · 10/06/2009 16:18

It just makes you wonder if the CRB checks don't just leave you with a sense of false security, a lot can get through

and is no replacement for proper training management and supervision

poor families I expect this sort of people will always be around

MerlinsBeard · 10/06/2009 16:26

As if her possessing the images wasn't enough, she distributed them AND made them Those poor children I hope that they never ever remember this x

jellybeans · 10/06/2009 16:33

This is so sick Poor kids. Sick people will always try to find a way to be around their victims. I am glad that I don't have to leave my kids with anyone until they can talk/school age. Also worrying that she has kids.

tiredemma · 10/06/2009 16:41

Horrifying.

Im actually speechless

MerlinsBeard · 10/06/2009 16:42

Children who can talk do still get abused you know, and some by their own families. In fact, some children get abused so often that they think it's 'normal'

Hulababy · 10/06/2009 16:46

This story is horrid, a parent's nightmare.

However, I think we do have to rememeber though that this is mercifully rare and that for the majority of children they are safe in their childcare setting be that in a nursery, preschool, childminder, babysitter, etc. We can't let stories like this put a jaundiced view on childcare and mums going out to work.

Hulababy · 10/06/2009 16:48

Also remember that sadly more children are affected by this kind of thing within their own home than within a childcare setting.

CrushWithEyeliner · 10/06/2009 16:55

Good God how was she able to take images of abuse at the nursery. I actually feel physically sick.

The poor poor parents and children. can you just imagine finding this out about someone you pass your baby over to day after day

scottishmummy · 10/06/2009 17:28

i cried when i read this story,really harrowing.what an abuse of trust

please god don't anyone use this abhorrent story to put the boot into working parents and say "oh well if you will use nursery missing precious moments to leave dc with strangers". so please before any one starts an anti-nursery theme remember some of us have to take our lo there tomorrow and day after.lets take in the enormity of this vile story without mud slinging

i know there have been well documented paedophile cases in schools/care settings/church etc.but really this is stomach churning

donnymouse · 10/06/2009 17:40

Without booting working parents. You are leaving your children, and very young children at that. Its a risk you take, its never risk free.

poopscoop · 10/06/2009 17:41

I have watched the news unfold on this over the past 24 hours and feel physically sick. She had been working there for quite a while. God knows what those families are going through, wondering, did she do anything to my child.

It is truly vile.

I know she has not been found guilty and we are speaking about all this as if she has, but she will have to come up with some mighty big excuses for so many allegations.

abraid · 10/06/2009 17:44

Still worth remembering that most children are abused by people in their family. The mother's boyfriend, often.

shootfromthehip · 10/06/2009 17:47

I cried too when I heard about this. I actually thought I might be sick. I can't believe that someone in a position of trust has abused it in this way.

You are obviously taking a risk whenever you leave your children but that then means that you should think loong and hard before you send them to school . It's horrible. Just horrible.

littlelamb · 10/06/2009 17:47

fgs
'never risk free'
wtf is that meant to mean? I had to put my dd in nursery at 8 weeks so I could finish my degree. I never thought I was putting her at risk This story is very very sad but honestly, it is not representative of nurseries as a whole. We are talking about one individual who is alledged to have done something terrible. To say working parents are taking that risk by putting their dc in nursery is just ludicrous and insulting

sarah293 · 10/06/2009 17:48

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scottishmummy · 10/06/2009 17:51

donny could you give it a rest.ease upon cheap shots

try grasp the enormity and pain this causes

to specifically put boot in on the back of vile story is being opportunistic and mean just for sake of it

but tbh not unexpected that some raver would rock up and bleat on about working parents and "risk"

btw,the majority of child abuse is perpetrated in home environment by known individuals specifically parents/step parents/family.

that does not mean i infer home,is unsafe.
it isn't

it just means unfortunarley some predatory and vile people have access to children

unfortunately,there is no such thing as risk free childcare or school

mammyknowsbest · 10/06/2009 17:52

OMG have also seen it on the news. Totally shocked for it is a woman/a mother of 2 and some photos were taken at the nursey I actually feel as if I want to throw up.
Donnymouse "without booting working parents...." I think you have just put the boot in !!!!

poopscoop · 10/06/2009 17:52

yes I have an enhanced CRB but really it is only worth it on the day it was checked. So can mean jack shit.

ArcticLemming · 10/06/2009 17:56

As most children who are abused are abused by relatives / family friend I really don't think this working parent-bashing is particular sensible. Yes this case is horrible, but every time there's a family abuse case we don't say children should never be left with grandparents, uncles, step-fathers etc.

edam · 10/06/2009 18:01

scottishmummy

I knew this story would be used by people who want to bash working parents... It's sick to try to exploit this tragedy in order to air one's prejudices.

Don't think anyone would give the time of day to a poster who said 'most children are abused by family members, therefore families are bad and you people who live in one have brought it on yourselves if anything goes wrong'.

Greensleeves · 10/06/2009 18:03

Christ. I work in nurseries in Exeter, everyone will be reeling about this when I go into work tomorrow

I just don't understand it. I have had brushes with child protection issues (nothing like this!) via my job and it's hair-raisingly awful every time - the children are so vulnerable, so trusting and such beautiful little creatures. I can't think of anything more intelligible to say