UK paedophile probed over Madeleine

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Thanks Rhub, I'll go and have a look.

Oh I've seen that article, think it would be interesting to watch, does anyone have a quick link to the documentary? I'm sure I can find it if not.

Insulting and presumptious

I have seen that documentary it is v interesting.

It was very interesting to watch as it was the line of work I was studying to become at Uni.

I'm not sure, but can't you watch it again using iplayer.

Noddy, it is always hurtful when you are accused of something isn't it? If someone accuses you of playing amateur detectives, of being bored, of being sick, it hurts. How much more so would it hurt if someone accused you of murdering your own child based on what they'd read in the media? Imagine it was you, your child, and the whisperings said you did it, I wonder how that would feel? You had thrown your life into finding your child, meeting other parents etc and yet those rumours persisted that you did it. I can't imagine how it would feel, nor how I would be able to cope with it.

I don't think anyone mentioned they murdered her I certainly didn't.You post was patronising but I am not hurt by it.But it was your good self who bandied around the idea that forum members are real people etc etc so direct insults are a bit rich but highly illuminating too.

I don't recall any direct insults either Noddy since this is the first time I've mentioned your name.

And if you are not saying they murdered her, what are you saying? That they sold her? What?

You addressed your rant to 'my dear friend'singular and then proceeded to back pedal and say you were addressing all. It directly followed my post but seriously no worries this topic is always contentious.But you are extremely good at dishing it out for someone who doesn't like to take it.And I have accused them of nothing.I had doubts about the original timeline as nothing matched but you can't accuse everyone with an interest in a news story as bored or in need of a job unless you know them.

Oh Noddy, if you want to take it personally that's your prerogative. If it makes you feel better, then I'll pretend that my dear friend rant was personally addressed to you. Is that better?

And what is an insult? Telling people to fuck off is an insult, but debating with people is not. Seems to me that you are taking my 'no personal insult' policy and twisting it to use against me. Again, if that makes you feel better, you go ahead.

If you feel personally insulted then click on the red exclamation and see if MNHQ agree with you.

But this 'you can dish it out but can't take it' line is very tiresome. After all, you've been on this thread for a very long time and although I haven't read your posts, I take it by your defensive strategy that you've been doing a fair bit of dishing against the McCanns. But that doesn't count does it?

Well summarised Rhubarb at 09:36:33 . Let's just bash away although we aren't certain and although we could be hurting victims. Cos we have a right to ask. Cos we are doing this for the little girl's sake. Sick!

You have your own definition.I don't feel bad so no need to try and make me feel better.It is just a web forum it is all virtual how could it possibly be hurtful

"how could it possibly be hurtful."

Because you are speculating about a terrible crime that involves real people. A real mother, a real father. She also has siblings, those little twins. These are not virtual people on an internet forum, these are people who have suffered a great loss. And they've already talked openly about how much it hurts them to have this speculation going on. That it detracts from the ongoing search.

It detracts from the ongoing search and also the right to be 'presumed innocent until proven guilty' in a court of law.

Would it matter if they just had one relative who is a MNer? This is real and we could be compounding real grief. THis is probably happening in other chat rooms but I had hoped for better on MN.

I am dead serious when i said that I will entertain the idea of repaying (with proof) the above MNers who contributed to the fund and want their money back.

TD - you should have been here just months after it happened. What was written about them then was really really sick. People saying social services should take away their remaining children, speculating as to where they could have hidden the body, etc etc.

Anyway, I'm off to take my kids out now. It's far too sunny to stay on here reading these posts. Perhaps other contributors might think of doing the same, instead of knocking these parents, why don't you spend some time with your kids? Take them to the park, do something nice with them.

Peace.

I wasn't talking about them I was talking about your post.You are very quick to stick the knife in to posters but couldn't hack it when you experienced it yourself.Whether it was addressed to me or not is irrelevant.

Thing is Rhubarb, it is more important for some people to have the opportunity to 'idle gossip' than to do something constructive, or be mindful of hurting others who at this time should be considered innocent of any crime.

'Okay, well here is the question; are you all happy for the family's lawyers to see everything that you have written on this thread??? This isn't so difficult to test.'

You know, I hope their 'team' does see this, because they need to do some firing and hiring.

If people like you are working for them, no wonder their credibility is going down the pan.

It never does to try to dictate to people what opinions they can and can't express.

'You post was patronising but I am not hurt by it.But it was your good self who bandied around the idea that forum members are real people etc etc so direct insults are a bit rich but highly illuminating too.'

Amen!

Couldn't be bothered to click on your 'hepful' links earlier IF. Now realise that you were trying to compare comments on celebrity culture/lifestyle with comments on this thread.

Firstly the Mccanns and their friends are not celebrities, they are presumed innocent ordinary people who are currently embroiled in looking for their missing daughter. They are involved in the media for this reason.

Trying to link the two seems indicative of a lack of ability to differentiate between 'gossip' about real life tragedy and 'gossip' about celebrity hubris. Your attempt to do this is rather distasteful, in my opinion, and says far more about you than I would care to know.

It is also considered bad form to cross reference threads in an attempt at one upmanship.

By IF I mean NationalFlight

"or be mindful of hurting others who at this time should be considered innocent of any crime"

Shame their 'team' choose to ignore this wonderful piece of advice.

Expatinscotland- i am merely pointing out that this is likely to be offensive to the extended McC family and that it is rude, insensitive and some of it is quite low and unfounded. But you can say what you want. I don't wish to be rude but the we can't stop the BNP from saying offensive stuff but we can point out how offensive it is. I think it is right that we keep pointing this out in the hope that posters will be more considerate as this affects real people who might only be one step away.

Izy, this is pointless, you're talking bullshit and I haven't time to further try and persuade you of anything. It's just a waste of effort. Think what you like.