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UK paedophile probed over Madeleine

576 replies

loopylou6 · 22/05/2009 08:22

here
thoughts?

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katiestar · 25/05/2009 20:20

AAAGH who has called the murderers ! (Bangs head on wall)

Quattrocento · 25/05/2009 20:29

This subject does get emotive, doesn't it?

noddyholder · 25/05/2009 20:31

When asked if she regretted leaving the kids alone KM said it was our holiday too.Thjat is a fact a statement and a truth not a judgement

Quattrocento · 25/05/2009 20:37

See, we've all done stupid things. I left my DD (aged 5, I think) and friends alone playing in a bedroom and the next thing they had done was sneak into the spare bedroom and climb out onto the roof of the garage - a pitched roof may I say. I was lucky. The McCanns were not.

But I do think it might have REALLY helped their cause if they'd said they were wrong. A bit of mea culpa never hurts.

MrsGuyOfGisbourne · 25/05/2009 20:38

It appears that some Mners desperately want this thread to be what it is not...(presumably so it gets pulled ) they must just hate the fact that no-one has said anything defamatory

NationalFlight · 25/05/2009 20:41

Yes, we all make mistakes and have near misses...I've had a few...and when I look at my face in photographs I actually look quite evil at times, and I can imagine what the papers or the public would say about me, were I in a position of potential suspicion.

Bottom line is, we don't know.

Fwiw I'd be utterly sympathetic to people in their position if I were certain the truth were being told. It's being (possibly) lied to that I find most distasteful.

Hard to know what opinion or reaction to have, really, when we're not allowed to come down on one side or the other.

ToughDaddy · 25/05/2009 20:49

NF- I return to say balanced post. I don't think you need to come down on a side. Maybe in your living room, or amongst your friends but I think that it risks being cruelly insensitive on a site that members of the McC family and friends could be reading. Very hurtful and unnecessary when there is so much doubt. I shall retire (again).

katiestar · 25/05/2009 20:50

Quattro - that is completely different.To have thought it was safe to leave the children alone I could accept was an error of judgment.No problem there.But when ,by Kate's own admission M had told her that her and her brother had woken up and cried for their parents the night before - they must have known what a cruel and selfish thing they were doing.
However for me it wouldn't have made any diffrerence if the McCann's had been parents of the year -the thing I can't get past is the sniffer dog evidence.If MM had hypothetically visited friends at an appartment and later M's blood was found there and in exactly the same spot as the scent of a cadaver , would you believe those friend had had nothing to do with her disappearance ?

katiestar · 25/05/2009 20:51

sorry the only bit of that post that was aimed at you Quattro was the first sentence ending with 'different'.

izyboy · 25/05/2009 23:16

MrsGG more presumption and assuption on your part re 'some MNers'...really you can try to read an 'agenda' in almost any discourse/ dialogue/printed statement if you have the time or inclination. Does not take away the fact that there are no plans to bring the Mccanns or their friends to trial, therefore this is all idle speculation.

izyboy · 25/05/2009 23:18

assumption

expatinscotland · 26/05/2009 09:30

'Maybe in your living room, or amongst your friends'

Oh, so now people can be dictated to about where they broadcast their opinions?

ToughDaddy, puh-leeze!

Oh, I see you've 'retired' from the thread.

Yeah, right.

MrsGuyOfGisbourne · 26/05/2009 10:27

EPIS - he wasn't actually adding anything to the debate anyway, just trying to stifle it. On a completely different subject, I notice in the Fund accounts that they spent £26,000 last year on 'media monitoring' - I wonder how that complies with the Fund stated objectives of trying to find M?

violethill · 26/05/2009 10:34

Why are you all so interested in the fund accounts?!!!

izyboy · 26/05/2009 10:58

'wondering' 'assuming'and 'presuming' that seems to be the sum total of this thread.

drlove8 · 26/05/2009 13:15

media monitoring - is that not to do with getting posters & adverts < find maddie > ? .its all just very very sad.... poor wee girl ... where ever she is i hope she's safe and looked after.

ToughDaddy · 26/05/2009 20:24

As to how the funds are spent is a matter for the trustees, the donors and the parents. So only those of us who contribute should really worry about the fund?

Quattrocento · 26/05/2009 22:56

Gosh you are a very retiring sort TD. I make it three times you've officially retired from this thread.

I'm not sure about the ethics of this fund - where the trustees are hardly disinterested and the funds are being used to meet living expenses while the parents go on chatshows.

The worry about ethics arises from whether or not people who donated knew that their donation was going to be used in the way that it has been used.

But I suppose that's a minor concern.

ToughDaddy · 26/05/2009 23:14

Quattrocentro- you needn't worry about how many times I pop up. Perhaps those who contributed to the fund are most entitled to comment on the appropriateness or otherwise of the application of the funds. I feel I can give you views of a sample of people who have done so . Hope that isn't inconvenient to the speculative and nasty discussion going on .

Quattrocento · 26/05/2009 23:20

OOH you old jack-in-the-box you.

I don't think you can say that only people who have contributed to the fund can comment - that's nonsense when they are making public appeals.

As it happens I did contribute and I regret doing so now. Simply because at the time I did contribute I had no idea that the funds would go to their living expenses, or that they'd recruit dodgy PIs who'd go around 'outing' every paedophile within a 100 mile radius.

expatinscotland · 26/05/2009 23:26

Aw, where's layman gone? Is he/she off to score? I rather miss the conspiracy theories and bizarre juxtapositions at this time of night.

Quattrocento · 26/05/2009 23:27

I think that he was the product of our imaginations Expat. Either that or the Vatican has silenced him.

expatinscotland · 26/05/2009 23:29

Maybe they forced him to attend literacy classes and write 'I will not misspell Medjugorje' 10,000 times.

ToughDaddy · 26/05/2009 23:55

Quattrocentro- yep, i am keeping an eye on you all. Depending on the amount, I might be happy to buy out your contribution to the fund. We can always ask the trustees to arrange this. Let me know and i will see if i can save up.

expatinscotland · 26/05/2009 23:57

Save your money, TD! Use it to fund your campaign to run for MP as a Labour party candidate.