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the teenager who sold her virginity to the highest bidder to fund her further education

439 replies

pottycock · 12/05/2009 21:36

I can't decide whether this is very sad or quite enterprising. A bit of both I think.

What did amaze me is that a medical professional endorsed her virginity at a press conference!

story here - warning, it's in the DM!

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Vittoria · 14/05/2009 18:55

Women hating now? More desperate hysteria

morningpaper · 14/05/2009 18:58
StewieGriffinsMom · 14/05/2009 19:00

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dittany · 14/05/2009 19:08

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LeninGrad · 14/05/2009 19:35

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Tortington · 14/05/2009 19:43

feminism is shit though

Pepa · 14/05/2009 19:50

Regardless the morals of prostitution - which btw this most definately was.

She had UNPROTECTED SEX with a stranger wtf....how stupid naive do you have to be. Your health is worth more than 8 grand.

izyboy · 14/05/2009 19:55

I know Pepa I mentioned this point a few pages ago, in that unprotected sex seems to be the most worrying aspect of this article.

Pepa · 14/05/2009 19:55

ooops didn't read the whole thread before posting

Vittoria · 14/05/2009 20:06

lol Custy.

MP I've made many points throughout the thread. I would say it is your own determination not to see or accept any dissenting view from the feminist status quo (oh, the irony!) that is stopping you from seening them. Its not my job to spoon feed mypoic old school feminists. The world moves on, with you or without you - and in feminisms case, it's the latter.

tattifer · 14/05/2009 20:07

Guess the GHF wasn't that appealing if you had to come back to spar with me for a little longer

Ha ha - don't flatter yourself! He had to put the dogs out so they wouldn't bark at the noise - gave a couple of more entertaining moments with you

tattifer · 14/05/2009 20:16

"There are many, mnay women in the sex industry who are exploited of course, but does that make the act of prosititution wrong in itself?
I'm not sure it does.
If a woman chooses to make money from her body and has proper choice, then why not? We can choose to make money from our intellect, our physicality, our voice, our imagination. Why not our sex?"

Agree totally litchick.

As for previous posters comment about why not advocate working in the sex industry for daughters etc if socities attitudes weren't so entrenched in condemnation then why not?!

morningpaper · 14/05/2009 20:19

well that's lovely tattifer

Let's hope that your daughter loses her virginity to a nice 45 year old willing to pay a year's university tuition in exchange for having high-risk sex with her. Great plan.

Vittoria · 14/05/2009 20:24

"You still didn't tell us if you were a chap or not."

Well you see it's liek this Dittany. I have been vertified XX genes, but in a terrible natural catastrophy my mothers womb flooded my embryo with androgens, which triggered the development of male physical charateriostics.

So where does that place me in your lexicon of hate and inhumanity - the polar opposite of your logic (sic) and humanity.

morningpaper · 14/05/2009 20:27

Well you'll have to tell us - do you live as a man or a woman? Because it makes an ENORMOUS difference.

tattifer · 14/05/2009 20:28

"Feminism is not one ideology. It is complicated, contingent and changing"

Thank the lord(ess) common sense summary at last...

As for wishing anything personally on my daughter, with all due respect - fuck off.

morningpaper · 14/05/2009 20:30

aha well perhaps the tension between the "Why not?" and the "fuck off" is perhaps revealing in some way?

Vittoria · 14/05/2009 20:30

MP, has your sense of humour completey deserted you?

tattifer · 14/05/2009 20:32

Because it makes an ENORMOUS difference.

Only to people like you.

Vittoria · 14/05/2009 20:33

"Feminism is not one ideology. It is complicated, contingent and changing"

I wish it were true, I really do. It might once have been true - maybe 20 years ago. I really don't mind that people disagree with me. I expect it. No body likes having thir comfort zones challenged. But thats the only way the world progresses.

morningpaper · 14/05/2009 20:37

it makes an enormous difference in the way you experience the world

I have several intersex friends but generally they are fearsome feminists

tattifer · 14/05/2009 20:43

MP I referred to daughters in general, also (involves challenging stretch of imagination here) did make reference to an alternative universe where societies attitudes weren't so entrenched in condemnation.

I didn't refer to my daughter in particular and wouldn't expect it of anyone else. The tension is not because, as I believe you are implying, duplicity or hypocrisy on my part. It's because my daughter, who is 11 and not a member of mumsnet so has no right of reply, has been brought in by you as cheap ammo.

dittany · 14/05/2009 20:46

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PaulaYatesBiggestFan · 14/05/2009 20:50

mp last night i commented that i thought Vittoriia was young

Vittoria · 14/05/2009 21:06

MP - So what is feminism? Or feminisms? Can one criticise Brownmiller and be a feminist? From the evidence on this thread, it seems not.

If that is so, is feminism beyond dissent? Or is all dissent backlash? Another circular argument. I think Dittany has comented before that a feminist is someone who espouses feminist principles. Apart from that being another example of a circular argument, do we define feminism as only what Dittany espouses as feminism or is there room for progression via dissent?

Dittany, there is a whole world of science that I imagine you haven't heard of. It's all just a google away.