bodies of mum and daughter found

[mrstimlovejoy]

in a lake at back of their house.just been on sky news.
no other details given,very sad.

Oh! that is so sad.

Is that the mum and daughter that are from Glouchestershire (sp?) who have been on the Missing program?

That poor Dad.

That is just heartbreaking

that is very sad.

I think I used to work with the dad. but I can't be sure. I know I worked with someone by that name who was from that area about 14 years ago, but haven't seen a clip of the appeal so don't know if it's the same person.

It's so horrible. And I can't help but wonder whether it's a case of another parent of a disabled child reaching breaking point due to lack of support. Obviously no-one has said anything but there has definitely been suggestion that the mum was vulnerable and possibly depressed.

Oh no. So sad. I had an awful feeling it would end this way

I know it's wrong to speculate, but her ex said that she was possibly having marital troubles...one of the awful things about having suicidal thoughts during a depression is the guilt at leaving your children, even more so when they have special needs and really rely on you. It can make some people wonder if it wouldn't be kinder to take them with you...horribly distorted thinking, I know, but I have been there myself but luckily got help.

I did a thread about this yeaterday.
poor daughter.
eaht an evil woman

2shoes, I don't think she is necessarily evil at all...I thought I had tried to explain? I know most people never get so low they could contemplate this, but i does happen. It's not quite the same as the men called "famiy annihilators" in the States, who are narcissists and want to punish their wives forever by taking the kids with them. I think it is despair, not evil, when a previously loving mother sinks to this.

killing your child not evil!!
what if it had been a father who had done this.
of course the dd's cp will be used to excuse the woman.

Sorry I am with 2shoes on this one, how can everyone say that men are evil who kill their children but women aren't. in my mind they are still depriving the living parent of their child.

Of course taking her daughter's life is the most deeply wrong thing ever. But can you see how the distorted thinking of deep depression might make you want to take your darling with you if they couldn't understand or cope with you being dead? Or might be left to be sexually abused in an institution, or any number of crazy things you might think in the depths of despair? Her despair may well have had nothing to do with her dd's disability - the only clue we have was marital trouble.

The stories of men doing this appear quite different, with many of them taunting or threatening their wives/exes with "never seeing the children again" etc. Warped, and not the same motivaion at all.

Oh that's so sad.

There is a link here to the differences between men and women who kill their families which doctors and forensic psychologists have researched.

I don't know much about this case, but I often feel pity for those parents who end their life and that of their children out of mental illness, isolation, depression.

fio as you say your BIL hasn't killed anyone.
I just hate these stories where a mum kills her self and her child and everyone makes excuses(and uses the cp) for them. the same thing doesn't happen on here for men.

Who has used the cp? I am only saying what I understand from my own experience (and no, I wasn't depressed about my dd's disability) that a mother might feel little option but to take a very dependant child with her. I can't see why you think that is evil.

That article "The Family Annihilator" is absolutely chilling.

2shoes if you read the article BoF linked to, it shows that there are frequently very different "reasons" why a mother kills her children and a father. The father is usually motivated by revenge, jealousy, bitterness and a desire to hurt the mother. The mother who kills is usually motivated by fear for the future, that her child will not be able to cope without her, or as a means to see an end to a disabled child's suffering.

It is wrong to kill your child, of course it is, but one scenario provokes a gut reaction of revulsion and anger, and the other of sympathy and pity. Surely you would agree about that? No one is suggesting it is "OK" to kill a disabled child.

I linked to this on the other thread and cp is mentioned
(just posted this on wron thread.
fio of course I worry, what has that got to do with it?