back to work 5 days after c-section

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She IS back at work today!

It was comfirmed in the French news this morning (RTL Radio) that she was indeed due back to work this afternoon.

Anyone thinking that it is not really serving the cause of women (asside from not being a very good idea medically) or am I out of order? I am not quite sure what she is trying to achieve as her reasons is not likely to be "because she needs the money" which I could probably undertand better, although it would still sadden me thad she'd have to.

Sorry coming too this late, but highly infuriating article in Saturday times about this, applauding her for setting such a good example and basically suggesting that as all employers are now family friendly and offer flexible working ( although this appears not to have trickled down to myself and most of my acquaintances in real life, clealry in planet journo companies are falling over themselves to get female workers back after birth) then we should all pull off our pinnies and rush back to the office.

Now I am all in favour of working after DC in fact I do it myself but to applaud someone who a) goes back after major surgery within 5 days and b) can afford an army of staff to look after the baby seems a tad fatuous and may mislead the currently childless into thinking that it is bloody easy to do have it all, which it isn't.

staying at home with a new baby and toddler, post c-section, falls short of hell on earth.

god i remember it all, baby screaming with colic, toddler climbing out of highchair with food spread all over her face, house a mess, me a mess in mismatched pyjamas and uncombed hair, regular showers and a good nights sleep a thing of the past.. unable to string a sentence together due to sheer exhaustion and stress of meeting fluctuating but ceaseless demands- changing filthy nappies, making up bottles, chasing big baby with potty whilst little baby is at the breast, waking up at 6 am every single morning to watch cartoons...just thinking about it gets me all nervous!

I'd much rather be back at work!

Surely this isn;t the story - the real story will be in 6 months or a years time, if she lasts that long without succoming to PND, which will be a risk - that and 18 years time when the child can have its say.

Perhaps Brtish women do look frumpy after having DCs. Whats Liz Jones excuse for permanently looking like a bulldog sucking a lemon? Once read an article by her (I don't know why I torture myself so) claiming that she looks good for a 50yr old. No, she looks like a witch.

Liz Jones never has a good word to say about mothers, no matter if they are SAHMs or WOHMs. She is a bitch.

I've just read the Guardian article which someone posted earlier. Am by this bit: "Every working mother will recognise the Catch-22, particularly anyone who has worked until just before the birth (some City women, it is claimed, continue to deal until it becomes physically impossible)". Don't we usually take pity on women in developing countries who have to work 'in the fields' (apols for the sterotype) right up until the point of giving birth? Yet here in the West we have apparently created the exact same pressures for working women.

This is as mad to me as the idea that people can become so greedy for money and power that they push and push for riskier and riskier deals until their companies end up going bust. Both of these are aspects of our crazy modern life which we are happy to justify for a term because they bring great returns (in the latter case the returns are primarily financial; in Dati's case some of the returns are job satisfaction, power, holding on to family life). But is this sustainable for those women concerned? Even Nicola Horlick (mother of 5, I think?) has said repeatedly that no job should claim so much of your life that you cannot leave the office by 6pm every day.

What an utterly bizarre and idiotic world we have created for ourselves, where despite our extraordinary wealth (globally speaking we're ALL in the top 10%) men are pressurised to work all the hours that God gives and more, and women are pressurised to match them, even when they're having babies.

Someone mentioned earlier on this thread that she herself had 'done a Dati', feeding her child at the office (unless I've misunderstood). Bfing in France is basically never done - it's a rare, brave French woman, even (such as a friend of mine ) who will BF. So since it's highly unlikely that Baby Dati will be bfed it's also highly unlikely that she'll be joining her mother on the political stage, non? It is a huge loss for the baby.

Dati sounds as "complicated" as her intriguing love life, and there may well be truth in the rumours of her control-freakish, publicity stunt-seeking character; or they may just be the classic rumours that hit most women in positions of power. It may also be true as some women on this thread have suggested that she's still on that post-birth high or even, God forbid, careening towards PND. But we have to really question the values, the intelligence and, frankly, the sanity of a society that basically forces wealthy women into making such mad decisions.

this is such bullshit-I think she has let women down across the world-We have had to fight so hard for maternity rights and this has been destroyed.

Women of any race,class and in any level of job should be able to bond with their baby and not be made to feel in adeqaute or that they will be penalised for it. Lots of women in the city have maternity leave.

what is she trying to prove? I could just about walk 4days after my section.

The dailymail and telegraph readers of the nation will be having a field day with this

oh i am cross

I agree with a lot of what you say. Except the 'force' bit. She may feel compelled, but she isn't forced. Her decision will impact on her and her child for better or worse. IT may be that if she just doesn't have very strong maternal feelings (as some women, a minority perhaps, but they do exist) theinfant may be better off with an 'allomother'. Women who choose to do this aren't the 'norm' though. Most women couldn't be dragged from their babies in the first few weeks.

But that's not to say she's wrong if this is her own decision based on her honest emotions. It's all goning to go tits up if it isn't that's for sure.

Nothing has been destroyed for this. Its very early days and we need to see how this plays itself out. I doubt the women reading the papers, tory or otherwise, will be able to 'get' this. They'll be even more up in arms about it I'd imagine.

Oh dear, how very insecure she must be. Not to mention a massive inferiority complex if she thinks she'd be so easily forgotten if she took the proper time off. I agree with the OP - women like that do the rest of us a huge disservice.

Liz Jones - correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't her column about her failure to have a realtionship? Wasn't she gutted not to have children?

Or am I confused?

OMG Have just read Liz Jones article on line. Yes you are right ilovelovemydog I'm sure she wrote a few months ago how devastated she was about that .

She is ghastly woman and the hideous thing that resonates so much when reading that article is she is prepared to say what I imagine most childless people, in fact probably most working fathers as well, secretly think.

Still I guess a career as a columnist for the Daily Mail where she is forced to parade her private life to all and what sad reading it makes, means she is already doing penance for her evil words.

Oh and I bet had she had children she would have been wetting herself to write about how bloody hard it was.