Re this recent child abuse case, can we have just *ONE* thread for competitive sadding please?

[solidgoldbrass]

Yes it's awful
Etc.
But we don't need a McCann-esque thread frenzy all saying the same thing.

I'm so late to this, ahving avoided these threads til now, realising that their omnipresence in active convos meant trouble!

I would just like to add my tuppence though.

The posters who started or participated in these threads have been labelled as attention seekers, mawkish, ghoulish, rubberneckers and worse - the inference always there that they are taking some pleasure in this awful case and the opportunity to pour out their fake-grief/horror.

But what strikes me about the posters doing the majority of this mud slinging is that they seem to be using this whole thing as a posturing excercise - kind of what they are accusing others of.

Its very easy to ignore these threads, very easy. but those saying they hate them are right here in the midst of it all, just to let us all know how truly awful and horrific they find the people who find the case awful and horrific.

To me its all two sides to the same coin. A need to very publically have their views heard. Though I would say that the anti-grievers are coming from a far more cynical, self-serving place.

fgs

anyone who has tried to discuss the actual issue has been ignored. Anyone who posts is deemed to be on one side or another.People are talking about an old poster ( and that is relevent how?) And about who is the most childish/cliquey etc etc.

Seriously
Just grow up.

I am going to go and get my son and get him to read this thread. He is 15 and i have been explaining to him that to debate is positive whilst to bitch and mud sling is purile.

I think some of you have made my point brilliantly.

The only thing is I think that after I have had him read this thread his question will be " and you go on mumsnet for smart, interesting, amusing discussion?"

Actually I think I will print it and give it to him to take to English as they are discussing debate/discussion/arguemnet in that class.

Don't all old ladies say it was better in the good old days? Please MNHQ give them their own old lady thread, equipped with stainless-steel grab handles and a warden for when they think the young male chiropodist is interfering with them.

The point of this thread was not to start a debate though.

The point of this thread was to make snide and mocking comments whilst implying intellectual superiority. It can't be any suprise that debate wasn't forthcoming when you use a term such as 'competitive sadding' in the title.

This is MN policing nothing more.

ACtually, self-policing is actually what MNHQ like - rather than deletion, as then you often get the arguments within a thread, and the thread makes sense. So nothing wrong with that at all.

I do think MN was built on the foundations of the oldies - it's what set the 'tone' of MN and made it 'not netmums or babyworld', it's why it's quoted ad infinitum as being the 'intellectual' parenting site. And that's because of the style it had from the beginning.

Having said that, I'm not sure it can still claim that position - as it has grown it has become very much like other sites.

Going back to the OP, I think one thread probably would be a good idea for this very sad story - it worked with the McCann threads, as MNHQ took the 1000 posts limit off it, and it stopped it dominating AC.

This is a quote from a reply from MNHQ from literally years ago when there was a particular thread that was complained about;

"While we agree that some of this stuff is not useful nor ideal we can't stop folks from posting, and ideally just need to let the threads be policed by Mumsnet members, ideally without folks getting too personal on either side. "

Sounds good to me.

Yes but 'self-policing' may well be a positive thing in instances of trolling, shit-stirring etc.
Self policing really shouldn't apply in this case, its all about personal preference and you shouldn't try to shame posters off the boards with the kind of language and accusations that have been used here because you dont want them to discuss something thast you personally dont want to discuss.
Thats not self policing. It's getting far too big for ones boots.

It's always the same group of people though doing the policing. This seems to be the latest topic that this group is focusing energy on.

I don't for a second believe it's actually really about only having one thread on a story that's in the news.

That was specifically about the Madeleine McCann threads.

Somebody nominate Twiglett for Pseuds Corner in Private Eye...that comment about bequeathing MN was a classic.

And eventually the MN decision was to have one thread. And it was fine. Everyone who wanted to discuss it had a place to do so, and everyone who didn't want it all over their screen every time they logged on was catered for as well.

same thing happened with the 'for sale' topics

because they were deemed to be full of people using text speak and other such things thought to be 'netmmmery' and other nonsense - they were witchunted off active convos by this 'policing'

same snobbery and hounding happening here again - being dressed up as a debate.

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'It's always the same group of people though doing the policing'

Is it possible that it's always the same group of people posting on the tragic news story threads?

And why not give people the ability to hide sale threads? The sellers constantly bumped their own threads, which was why they were taken of active conversations.

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you can. Cant you?