Brangelina twins were from IVF????

[WendyWeber]

Not the most reliable of sources mind you

oh come on

oh OK then but its very dull

oh i get taxis to stop franca.
you dont have to be Career Woman In Chanel to do that, just blonde

I haven't adopted but I have cousins who are adopted. I am just genuinely interested Kew. Could you not educate me? I am always keen to learn to see another point of view. Not trying to out-opinion anybody!

yes yes, spit it out woman

The speed of the adoption would be an issue in teh UK but not considered so in the US - I have known people adopt then go right back out when paperwork was completed and adopt again which would jsut not be possible in UK. However you could argue that she has plenty of domestic help so may not be such a problem.

But she also adopted out of birth order, ie the last adoption was a boy who is older than some of the esiting childrne in the family. In UK (for good reason) it is rare to get approval to adopt a child who isn't younger than your existing youngest.

my mother (butchy, scary feminist lesbian bird you wouldnt want to meet donw an alley at night) taught me that you'll go far in life with a smile. and boy was she right.

oh and in response to the "they should go to people who want them" type comment - but they don;t.. people don't want 3/4 year old asian boys they are virtually unadoptable. Waiting lists for girls in virtually all countries and for causcasian boys under 2 but asian boys are virtually an instantaneous referral and still people would rather wait for a year or more to get a girl.

ahhh, i see.

i think the rules are ever so tight here (from what i can glean, not that i know f all about it in reality). my instinct is to say that if someone is offering a loving home, they should be able to adopt. childrens homes are not exactly painted as the ideal way to grow up are they?

asian boys in Russai are considered a special needs adoption

rules are tight here because few young childrne to adopt and many prospective parents. Its like the bog licking its bollocks, they are fussy because they can be.

really?? girls are more wanted? that surprises me.

if i were to adopt (something ive always wanted to do) i would take someone from least adopted age/gender group. for me, the point of adoption is to give a home to a child who needs one... no??

there are good reasons why its often not a good idea to adopt out of birth order though.

Yes Kewcumber, that is a very good point. It is easy for a baby or very young child to merge into a family I think, but that is so natural, and the desire to nurture and love very young children is so instinctive. But to bring in a child that is older than one of the existing children........ yeah, could be problematic.

about 85% of adopters request a girl initally (though China obviously skews that as there are only about 5% boys available).

I personally know people (more than one) who were considering turning down a referral for a healthy boy under 1yr becasue they wanted a girl (neither did thankfully).

Best reason to adopt (IMVHO) is becasue you desparately want a child.

i dont get that either; that there are kids anywhere in the world needing parents who arent adopted because of borders? i dont really 'get' borders tho tbh... im a bit of a hippy at heart i guess, but i do see us as the human race. i dont get why we cant all live anywhere we like, as individuals. i dont get why nationality is even a factor, other than some bullshit ownership/population control thing... and why the people who declare wars never actually fight in them... and all that shit.

Rules are really tight in Italy too, I heard about not adopting out of both order. somehow, don't know why, it doesn't surprise me that girls are more wanted.

(i'll never be taken seriously now ive said that will i??? )

birth

i desperately want to open my heart and home and give all of my love (i have a big heart) to any and all childrten who need it. hell, id adopt them all if i could.

(credibility slips still further - but its true!!)

actually Ruffle - teh Hague convention agrees with you - it says idelly every child will grow up with birth family, if thats not possible next best thing is adoption in own culture/country, if thats not possible/practical then adoption anywhere is better than institutional or temporary care. It says every child has the right to a family life.

There are challenges to raising a child of a different race in a country of (predominantly) a difernt race with a good slef image and self esteem but anyone who has spent anytime in an orphanage would know that it is still a better solution than an institution.

then the hague convention and i agree

cannot imagine how anyone could resist my DS