Why aren't we discussing the kids running riot in London and Birmingham off the back of a TikTok trend? [title edited by MNHQ at user's request]

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If there’s already a thread I couldn’t see it.

Yep agree @HardyEustace

They were abusing other shop keepers and shop workers and terrorising passersby as there were so many of them...hundreds. Some had zombie knives...it is scary. If they can attack the police and emergency workers attacking a passerby is nothing to them...

Separate incident in my local Primark a gang of girls were shop lifting and knocking stuff over, staff didn't approach them they had been told not to touch them as they were females. They believe that they are above the law and are owed a living...they come, they see, they want, they take and anyone who gets in their way will be attacked...

They were quick enough to identify, prosecute and jail the Southport rioters.
Let's see how they fare identifying these kids.
I wont be holding my breath.....

I don't think it has anything to do with Covid or COL. Those are just excuses. There have always been vile teenagers with crap parents, it's just now they're all able to spur each other on to more and more extremes and join up together thanks to mobile phones and SM.

Kids are constantly seeing influencers showing everything they have and they think they should be able to have it all too.

I think banning SM and smart phones for under 18's would be amazing, starting for current 10 year olds. . Yes of course the rules would sometimes be broken one way or another but it would make it so much easier for parents, especially those who find it hard just to say no.

I think we should also be fining parents for their kids behaviour. They might start to make a bit more effort then.

We should also though be providing activities, youth clubs, skate parks, sport clubs and art clubs that are free, stuff for teens to do other than hang round town and cause trouble.

I was going to say this, there are estates in Clapham, streets where it’s basically council housing but in private houses and homeless people sometimes. Generally when I go there there are no issues, but if you go further into eg Stockwell, Brixton, Wandsworth Road/vauxhall etc, then you get the rougher estates and kids will travel to places like Clapham for rich pickings.

There will be a bit of hand-wringing and talk of more resources for “communities”.

But these kids are all well-dressed and stealing expensive goods. As pps have said, it’s easy - and fun - when there are zero consequences.

My granny lived in an inner-city council flat. She faced in her latter years a constant onslaught of crime perpetrated by young kids. The criminals/their parents were never admonished - the council nailed her windows shut and then fixed bars on the windows. She was the prisoner!

This

This. My grandmother was teaching in the 80s at Ensham, the girls' school that later amalgamated to become Graveney. Girls from Garratt Green would hang about in gangs to fight the Ensham girls.

Exactly

Wasn't a lot of the red vs blue school fighting hyperbole?

How much fighting was actually going on though? It seems to have been mainly running around shouting and filming. Though looting did occur which is disgusting.

Gangs of teens fighting isn't dystopian. What is especially disturbing is the fact it was this huge crowd, facilitated by TikTok.

Isn't the free travel a Scottish thing?

Anyone who stole, assaulted or threatened needs to be arrested but the mass gathering and filming was not illegal in itself.

The Guardian has reported on it, so have BBC and Independent.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/02/sadiq-khan-warns-of-zero-tolerance-approach-towards-any-repeat-of-clapham-disorder?utm_source=chatgpt.com

You can bet if anyone put hurty words on social media they would be in court faster than they could walk. Time for the parents of these hooligans to be held responsible & both parents & child locked up, create parents & child jails where the parents are forced to do parenting courses & the kids have to attend lessons with super strict teachers, parents & kids have to share a cell, no privileges & are only released when they have proved they can behave, any repeat offences & the sentence is doubled. Create lots of jobs for ex military & social workers for when they are released. Give the parents regular drug & alcohol tests on release & put the kids on tag with a curfew.

The Telegraph sums it up - "Sadiq Khan should stop spending money on ‘nice to haves’ and start concentrating his enormous budget on keeping Londoners safe.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/london-latest-crime-statistics-knife-murder-shoplifting-sadiq-khan-ons-b1239843.html

"Stop and Search" needs to be rolled out seriously.

It's not happening in Australia that I've seen. On the news, we do seem to get regular gang violence/shootings in specific areas, and the odd horrible religious nutter (the Bondi shooting).

But I've not heard of gangs of teenagers rioting. They all seem well behaved when I encounter them.

I also haven't seen any shoplifting like I read on here, but I have noticed that the large supermarkets have secure exits which are new in the past few years. So maybe shoplifting has increased here due to COL.

It’s because certain groups in society think they can do what they want. Khan pandas to them. There’s no police. Stop and search isn’t allowed as certain groups think they have a right to commit crimes yet it’s against their human rights to be searched (oh, it that a knife in your packet?). See then for what they are- losers, waste is space, criminals, thugs. ,

Were the teens swarming Clapham mostly black or Asian? I looked at pics and saw a mix of ethnicities.

The PP said "certain groups"but did not mention ethnicities.

As far as I could see they were all of a similar age group.

It's not happening in NZ either, and I also haven't heard about shoplifting on the scale I read about on MN. Now and again there are ramraids but I haven't heard anything about that either for a while.

i see it as dystopian

Going the Aussie way and banning social media for u 16's might help.
I was in Leeds city centre yesterday evening, and there was a LOT of 13-16 yr olds shouting, swearing, fighting. I saw get in the face of a bouncer outside a bar, and another group egging on a security man at the bus station. What I especially noticed was there seems to be an equal of girls out getting rowdy and involved.

I would say 90% were black.

Yes, the people arrested for assault in Clapham were girls, 2 were only 13.