Why aren't we discussing the kids running riot in London and Birmingham off the back of a TikTok trend? [title edited by MNHQ at user's request]

[EvangelicalAboutButteredToast]

If there’s already a thread I couldn’t see it.

Perhaps the police should review the youths’ Twitter accounts? I’m sure at least one of them will have used some hurty words and some point, meaning that the police can at least arrest and imprison them for something?

Funny how the wests version of Tik Tok is not the same as Chinas?

This reminds me of the national moral panic over mods and rockers fighting in seaside towns back in the 1950s/60s - they would all be in their 80s now, and no doubt tutting over the youth of today. In the 1970s and 80s it was skinheads and football hooligans.
Tiktok does spread stupid stuff, but gangs of teenagers causing trouble is not exactly a new phenomenon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mods_and_rockers

Social media like tik tok needs to be banned.

Youth cults of the past concetrated on each other generally ,I was a Mod 79 revival and then Northern soul niters.
I don't recall the general public being pulled in to our Mod v Biker rucksack.

“Fix (narrow) the doors and man the tills”
I like it @rosycheex

Well, yes, of course

My life was similar before lockdown. It wasn't something you saw every time you were out. I would've left London much faster if it was!

someone mentioned areas where teens can go wild. I wouldn't see that as a positive - but the current crop like populated areas to cause trouble. And of course, if there's a dare of shoplifting because they know there's no consequences for that... they're going to congregate near shops.

I don't know what other countries are having these problems. I would be interested to know what happens in other countries.

In the example you've given, the Parents were out looting!

My cousin actually overheard that conversation on a train from Croydon where she unfortunately had to work.

Literally a mother talking about what she had managed to nick and her son had managed to nick.

In general, I think their parents are probably just smoking weed at home or generally being useless.

They shouldn't be pointless court cases. People shouldn't be getting away with lower level crimes.

I think it's a terrible idea.

And yet people, during the Covid lockdown, found it unbearable to be confined in their own comfortable homes.

Maybe if they were able to get Saturday jobs in the shops they wouldn't trash them? Sense of ownership/pride.

i was thinking that I was busy working when I was a teen but of course laws prevent that now.

You surely meant to say TikTok? 😉

I think the internet feeds the narrative that everything is fucked and it’s a race to the bottom. Once you start believing that nothing is salvageable you just get on with destroying it instead. Statues thrown into the rivers, constant protests no respect for authority…

"..Gone to fight the next-door school
E'vry term, that is the rule..."

@EvangelicalAboutButteredToast it's obviously very personal but I would've thought that the people who defend throwing statues into rivers are exactly the same people who think behaviour this is nothing to worry about. Or they would accuse us of just looking at social media instead of having actual experience.

Which of course we'd have to phrase them as "please don't deny my lived experience" because that's the kind of phrase they understand.

Time for the government to step in and threaten TikTok with an outright ban in the UK if their platform is used to stir up dumb shit like this.

A few weeks ago it was the red Vs blue school team fighting and now this.

This IS kids being kids, though.

All this talk of 'societal breakdown' and 'chaos' is pure hyperbole.

Exactly the kind of thing touted on GB News.

Do not kid yourselves that this country will be a crime free haven of joy under a Reform government. Their entire manifesto is about cutting public services even further.

@JustSawJohnny they'll just use Discord etc

any platform can be used for stuff like this
Snapchat etc

And yet it hasn't.

It's always TikTok.

Whatever platform, there should be sanctions.

Time for parents to start removing apps, too!

Where are the parents? Where’s the discipline in the home? Parents need to start being charged with joint enterprise if their feral offspring are caught doing this sort of thing.

I agree, there's no parenting going on for these types

But you'll literally be banning every means of communication, which is just not possible

As posters have mentioned, the school fights were going on in the 80s and 90s

The main difference seems to be that this lot actually want it to cause maximum disruption to the public and to be filmed - hence what weve got going on on buses etc

When I were a lass, it was normally arranged for some obscure hiding place

I really don't care if they kick the shit out of each other

There should be a nice holding pen for the police to put them in overnight

But yes, banning all means of communication for everybody doesn't seem like a solution

Government and the judiciary need a top down solution with actual punishments but I think we've gone too far with being a society that allows this

It's going to take someone to do something really shocking to get it under control

No.

England and Wales don't make the mistake of free bus travel for under 22 that we've got in Scotland.
The little bastards go on tour causing mayhem and abuse passengers and staff alike till they reach their destination and indulge in anti social behaviour.
A bus driver in Elgin depot died after being punched by a 15 year old.

Where are the parents?

Why do these kids have smart phones, why do these kids have tik tok, why are these kids out roaming the streets.

Why aren’t the parents parenting their children?