can you BE any more selfish?!

[nailpolish]

here

and surprise surprise they mentioned madeleine

Well
I dont get your point you dont get mine
we will have to agree to disagree then

hi morningpaper. fine thanks. and yours? how is that towel?

no, really, I do think we should stab them in the head with breadknives. blunt ones for the mccanns.

oooh no naming names, bad girl

my towel is being washed

my orgasms are great thanks! must buy more batteries

This is more like it

What a depressing story. Reminds me of the time I was on holiday with my grandad and he got shitfaced on whiskey and passed out on the toilet. Think I was about 10.

it would seem we're allowed to judge as long as the children haven't come to any harm. Once the child comes to harm that apparently exemps the parent from judgement because they have to live with the consequences of their actions for ever. .

but they have come to harm

they have been in a portugese childrens home overnight after having to watch their mother vomit everywhere

It will be interesting to see if Social Services take these kids away from this couple.

Wouldn't surprise me if they did.

well, at the very least, they will need to do a thorough assessment of the family. talk to the children's schools, their neighbours and extended family to find out if this is a one-off or is in character for these parents.
Then a decision can be made about what is best for the children's future.

I happen to think that if the Mccanns had been a family on benefits on holiday in a b&b in Blackpool and left their children like they did the reaction in the press may have been different. But in either case the outcome is the same - parents who have to live with the results of their actions. I don't think there are many parents out there who deliberately do things to harm or endanger their children. But there are plenty of examples of parents who have done really stupid things that, in hind sight, it is very easy to judge them for. But imo living with the avoidable loss of a child must be judgement and punishment enough. Affluence doesn't equate with greater suffering. Cases like these involving children just make me very sad.

Not read the whole thread, agree with Janni that further assessment is needed to see if the children are in any danger.

Why weren't the children at school anyway?