can you BE any more selfish?!

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and surprise surprise they mentioned madeleine

love it bobbysmum

Totally agree Bobby, double standards all the way.
Think Brits will now have a terrible reputation in the Algarve.

I don't know where you got the impression that we're not supposed to be judgemental from - certainly not from me anyway

if they were out drinking, with their kids in tow, it might have been helpful if the bar staff could have stopped serving them too.

Drinking from 3pm onwards until you are found unconscious and incapable is hardly a "mistake" though, is it - if the Times report is accurate of course. A bit too much time spent being stupidly irresponsible IMO Bobbysmum.
But I still wonder if there is a chance their drinks were spiked, it all sounds a bit odd.
I just cannot imagine being drunk in charge of a buggy. It just sounds surreal, despite nametaken's upsetting anecdote .

Yep, you're dead right, it was completely irresponsible. Almost as irresponsible as leaving three toddlers to fend for themselves in an unlocked apartment next to a swimming pool and a busy road. But maybe not quite.

Now who'se being judgemental?

is anyone comparing this incident to any other news story? I'm not.

I never said I wasn't judgemental, nametaken.

I have seen shite parents doing just this every year i have been abroad

My friend when i was a wee girl used to go to a caravan palce in Spain and get rat arsed day and night. She was only 3 or 4 when thay started going on hols.

If we are out at night it's either DH having a drink or me not both. The non drinking parent will have a glass or 2 of wine but no more than that. You would think everyone would have the brains to do the same!!

A couple of years ago a young mum (and her childless friend) went to the beach with a six month old baby girl. Later the same evening, the two young women were stopped by the police outside a bar, one of them carrying a screaming, naked, sunburnt little girl, in a nappy she had worn the whole day. Several reports had come in during the day about these women on a drinking binge with the naked crying baby, the police eventually caught up with them. Both nappy change bag and buggy, had been lost early in the day.

Baby was taken into care as she was on the spot deemed an unfit mother, lost custody, and was herself put in custody.

bobbysmum. I am sure this was just a mistake, right?
Well, as a normal and possibly of more than average intelligence I do have the right to be judgmental of unfit parents. If people werent judgemental, NO childre would EVER be taken into care and given a chance of a decent upbringing.

Hurrah for Judgemental!

Stupid pair It happens sadly, as does parents dragging young children around dodgy bars and "entertainment" late into the night, young girls getting legless and vulnerable, lads picking fights .... It is the responsibility of the adults not the bars to limit their alcohol intake. It sounds as if they were lucky to have made it back so far. Likely as not they had not eaten properly either. After all you often don't when you travel especially with an early morning start or make sure the kids are ok but forget yourselves. Or maybe their drinks were spiked, we don't really know.

Oh QS thats awful poor little baby.

And it isnt helped by certain childcare experts whom should not be named saying that holiday for parents is holiday for nanny and since babies are so portable and you can easily take a buggy to a coctail bar, at least you have something to steady yourself on as you go home to the hotel..... you get the picture (True, I paid money to go on a talk, was shooooocked!)

I've saw people get pissed with their kids in tow in the UK loads of times in a pub I used to work in.

Bobbysmum

Personally, I have a rule. I dont get tipsy unless my dh (who doesnt drink) is there, b ut never so my kids see it. I dont get drunk. If dh is away, I never have more than one glass of wine. I think that is pretty sensible. What is it with people who put drink and getting drunk before their own little children??

bobbysmum07 i can be judgemental all i like

these are adults who are responsible for small children

dont get drunk

its easy - no one was hodling a gun to their head ffs

and no their drinks werent spiked

i can get wasted in 2 hrs - drink doubles and shots. its dead easy - esp abroad where there are no optics

i remember i hada t errible tummy bug one weekend - i ws sick in front of dds - they were really frightened

id never be drunk in front of dds

yes i drink but i know how much is enough ie 2 glasses or wahtever

That's more or less my rule as well QS. I have a drink if they're in bed or when I'm out without them. I worry about what would happen if they had an accident.

Yes they are stupid twats but they've probably realised that by now, what with the constant stream of british press making this frot-page news of the "Public Enemy Number 1" variety. No one in the world is going to justify their behaviour. Their kids were taken into care because they were feckless idiots. But let's not have 1000 posts waving pitchforks.

errrr. Why not?