BBC apologise to Amanda Abbington

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https://news.sky.com/story/bbc-apologises-to-amanda-abbington-and-says-some-strictly-complaints-against-giovanni-pernice-upheld-13225126

She did no such thing. Your opinion of women and what they should be prepared to accept in a work environment is a bit fucked up,

On the surface, he seems like he's a hard taskmaster and she was simply too senstive to cope with it. They should never have been paired together.

This ongoing investigation has done neither of them any favours and the honest truth is that no one still knows what happened.

they're not ok

Neither of them look good. Yes of course she should have complained, absolutely, he shouldn't have spoken to her like that, but 'not ok' shouldn't translate into the absolutely unforgiving awful way she dragged him through the media and made out she'd been horribly abused by him.

There was an article in Woman a couple of weeks ago about the celebs who have turned down Strictly One of them was Emma Atkins (Charity in Emmerdale)
In an intimate chat (longer interview) with My Weekly magazine, Emma revealed: "My mum always says 'why don't you do that? You'd be great'. I love Strictly too but the pressure the contestants must be under for that is phenomenal. I don't know if I would want to do something that would test my mental health in that way."

Sensible choice

im not sure i beluve anyhing the bbc say anymore-not exactly mpartial are they

From memory the BBC were saying that the investigation results would be published many weeks ago and then she made further allegations of a sexual nature.
It just feels she was throwing everything possible at him and hoping that some would stick.
Not that I'm condolling bullying behaviour but I think that she took it too far

It's pretty obvious that this is a programme where you have to be prepared to work very hard and take both correction and criticism. It's not for the faint hearted and whilst there is no room for abusive behaviour it would be sensible not to take part if you find both of the above difficult.

i wonder what will happen when they look into graziano

I actually would take the second to heart much more. The first is so clearly unreasonable and the person saying it is being awful. The second is much more insidious and you might feel they had a point. But they are being horrible,

Neither of them have come out of this looking well.

He comes across as rude and downright mean.

She seems to have falsely accused him of much much worse than he is guilty of.

I'll happily never hear from either of them again.

its not a its not a court we dont know what really happened

She does come across as being overly sensitive to someone setting high and tough standards.

Sounds like it could've been resolved without all the drama.

Not to downplay, but I've been on the end of workplace bullying over a long time and it was of a scale way bigger than this.

I’m leaning towards the view that if she didn’t think there was a real case, why would she risk so much? She has been massively abused online and probably her career is now totally shot. I bet plenty of people abuse her on the street these days. The “forgiveness” that’s extended to the likes of Schofield and all his shady behaviour will not be extended to a woman who has dared to criticise not only a popular dancer, but also the (obviously fake) “strictly family”, as well as the BBC. She never stood a chance really.

I think he is exonerated and she looks like a difficult woman who couldn't take the pressure. 6/17 complaints upheld, they were the lesser ones only, she admits she can be "difficult", he meanwhile is doing the same job on the same type of show in Italy. And good on him, I'm pleased for him. Seems too easy to make accusations which hit the press so everyone knows before they are substianted. Then they don't hold and its wrong that an accusation can completely ruin their career and future.

Remember this is the BBC “investigating” their own flagship show, they’re a million miles from unbiased. If in any possible way they could have completely exonerated him they would have. What kind of evidence have they considered? I imagine 90% of it was verbal testimony from Abingdon and pernice. There are other celebs that have spoken out about inappropriate behaviour too so it’s not just her.

This makes it seem like they were a bad match of personalities who didn’t get on from the start.
Given a lot of the claims she made were not held up it this appears to be a personal view from her rather than reality of actual abuse, quite different from the Graziano footage where it was apparently clear he was actually abusive to Zara and therefore fired?

this is what im thinking its not unbias its their own review so id ont really take what they think as gospel

If he can’t train someone without swearing at them he shouldn’t be doing that job.

The thing is, the BBC are absolutely well practiced at sweeping things under the rug, covering them all the way up and pretending it never happened. Let's not forget it's them investigating themselves.

If they had to uphold part of the complaint id bet my house that it's not a case of AA just being unable to take fair but negative feedback. There's more to it. But the BBC, as ever, is protecting it's own dirty, sordid house.

They've allowed abuse to happen for years in a million different ways and done fuck all. now they've given a mealy mouthed attempt at an apology because they've been forced to.

AA (an older woman) stood up for herself and other women against a younger, good looking man with the full weight of the BBC behind him (and the whole of the gutter media stacked up against her too) and she's forced them to acknowledge there was wrong doing. That's huge.

If the BBC could have got away with sweeping it under the rug completely, they absolutely would. It's what they do. People hate her because they assume because she's older she should therefore only ever be grateful that she's on the telly in the first place.

It's the fucking patriarchy in action. He's good looking and charismatic and therefore can't be an abuser. She's making it up, she's hysterical, she's too sensitive, she's a snowflake. No wonder women don't report harassment and bullying.

Good for her. Brave woman.

How do you know? You don't know what happened to AA. none of us really do. The bbc are keeping tight hold of all of the evidence. If there's nothing to hide, why wouldn't they release it?

Just because you suffered what you think is worse, doesn't mean what another woman suffered isn't also bad. It's not the bullying olympics.

Great post!

“Difficult” “hysterical” “snowflake”

have we had “Karen” yet?

what a load of misogynistic comments on this thread, disgraceful

I wouldn’t trust the bbc to tell the truth about anything. I expect what she’s endured has been much worse than how they’ve spun it.

So even though 6 of her complaints were upheld, the poor guy gets a pass? So those 6 times were bad enough for a complaint to be upheld but poor old dancer. She complained because she had grounds to as is clear from the fact her complaints have been upheld. He therefore did do something wrong.

Yep. It takes guts to stand up to an institution like the BBC (which hires her) over workplace bullying- it’s definitely not ‘snowflake’ behaviour. She said she was doing it in part to protect future contestants, which is admirable I think.

And I thought she came across as reasonable and measured (if upset) in that Channel 4 interview she did. Not hysterical like she’s being portrayed in the press/online.

THIS!