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Sunderland police station set on fire

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 02/08/2024 22:20

It appears that the rioters have set Sunderland police station on fire

news.sky.com/story/southport-violence-stabbings-attack-riot-london-hartlepool-misinformation-sky-news-blogs-13186819

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Demonhunter · 03/08/2024 02:14

Not even the Police Station, its the Citizens Advice office next door. The main station is not in the city centre so they locked up the centre office and the idiots just fire bombed the CAB office instead 🤦‍♀️

Even worse, a poor lass had parked up to pick up some food and came back to her car overturned and then set on fire!

PeapodRas · 03/08/2024 03:02

SloaneStreetVandal · 03/08/2024 00:23

I stay in a small coastal town in Scotland. Where I live isn't terribly multicultural, though diverse heritage isn't unusual - I've grown up with friends and neighbours whose parents/grandparents moved to Scotland from places like China and India.

I've always thought multiculturalism was one of the UK's strong suits - we're far more willing than much of Europe, and I think the friends and neighbours I have would say they feel very much part of the community.

I hear what people are saying about racism, and it absolutely IS an issue. Undoubtedly it motivates many of these protestors. Is there more to it though, ie are there valid concerns which the extremists exploit? As someone who doesn't live in a very diverse location, my question is not about race but about culture. I read and see a lot of assertion online that there is a sizeable instance of people from Islamic countries moving and living in the UK with no intention or effort to embrace local culture. Is this just a far right lie being peddled online, or is there truth to it?

When it comes to integration, there's certain things Muslims will not do. We won't drink and we might dress differently.
These things do not mean we don't integrate. We go to schools, universities, we work, we put into the system etc. We contribute more or less the same as your average person.
The racists will never be happy with our efforts.

Put it this way, my husband's grandparents lived in a small village and his grandma went to the church when she could. Other than that, they were absolutely not integrated into the community, they kept themselves to them themselves.
No one would say they weren't integrated.
My mother is part of her community - she attends the mosque and organises events for the local community there and she's well known locally with plenty of friends, but she'd 100% get accused of not integrating as her immediate community is mostly Asian/muslim because of where she lives.

Who is actually integrated in all parts of society? We all live pretty siloed lives in the UK yet the burden to prove themselves integrated is always on the 'foreign' looking ones

PeapodRas · 03/08/2024 03:09

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Well that's just a load of nonsense you've written there.

Gideon Falter is the man you refer to and he was purposefully trying to provoke protestors - there's footage of it and police statement.

The anti-Genocides have been by and large peaceful with very few arrests (impressive if you look at the numbers) and been anti-zionist is not being anti-semitic.

What's really run riot this last two decades is Islamophobic and anti immigration sentiment. Encouraged by the media, govt and racists like you.

PeapodRas · 03/08/2024 03:12

AvrielFinch · 03/08/2024 00:59

So can I, but some is true. The Jewish man was treated appallingly and the police later apologised to him. But this is what happens. Things that are not true are recited alongside things that are true.

That's not actually true either - his name is Gideon Falter, look up what actually happened when the police stopped him

Hagr1d · 03/08/2024 03:29

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Our cries pf condemnation are being drowned out by all the extremists- on both sides!!

BTW are you actually supporting the criminality and thuggery that's happening across our country right now?

Toomanylosthours · 03/08/2024 03:32

Chika89 · 02/08/2024 22:29

Genuine question - what are they rioting about? I know it’s been triggered by the recent stabbing a but what specifically? I’ve just watched BBC news and they’re very wishy washy with their coverage. They attribute it to the attack but otherwise give no context. What is going on??? Someone please explain to me, thanks

I believe the right wing and general thugs have jumped on this. What I believe to initially be a protest against violent crime committed by immigrants, this quickly got picked up by the right wing idiots, not helped by what is perceived as 2 tier policing (groups of protesters being treated differently).

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/08/2024 03:55

"Protests"Hmm are planned across my city at interface areas, calling for Orange and Green to unite against black people, brown people and Muslim people. And demanding that women and children be at the front of the "protests".Shock

I wonder what brave Knight dreamt that plan up? Whoever he is, he's a cowardly cunt and no woman should be so fucking thick that she brings her children to be photographed by the media as the face of racism NI. Those kids have to go back to school in September and face their wee classmates.Sad

The PSNI have said they will adopt a proportional response. The organisers of the march to the Islamic Centre have not submitted an application to the Parades Commision.

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/08/2024 04:03

Our cries pf condemnation are being drowned out by all the extremists- on both sides!!

Nonsense. There's only one side fucking things up here. The extremists rioting, looting, assaulting brown, black, Muslim people, wrecking our cities, terrorising our citizens and putting our emergency service workers in hospital are right wing extremists.AngryHmm

itsgettingweird · 03/08/2024 04:08

Chika89 · 02/08/2024 22:29

Genuine question - what are they rioting about? I know it’s been triggered by the recent stabbing a but what specifically? I’ve just watched BBC news and they’re very wishy washy with their coverage. They attribute it to the attack but otherwise give no context. What is going on??? Someone please explain to me, thanks

Apparently being a violent thug to protest about people coming into Britain and being violent.

Totally ignores the fact the person who committed the Southport stabbing was British.

And totally not seeing the irony in being a violent thug to apparently riot about upholding British values against violence.

These people are just violent thugs who use any excuse to be a violent thug.

Not. British value any normal British person upholds.

Rummly · 03/08/2024 05:22

Obnoxious, thick, violent racists.

You can tell how thick they are by the fact that they’re not waving Palestinian flags. If you do that you’re above the law and can be as racist as you like.

Thevelvelletes · 03/08/2024 06:19

NuffSaidSam · 02/08/2024 22:31

These people are thick and looking for an excuse to behave like animals.

There is no more to it than that.

Far right agitators will have waited decades for this,one of the primary aims has always been to try and start a race war.
And obviously I hope they fail in their objectives.

Simonjt · 03/08/2024 06:32

GoadyMcBigot · 02/08/2024 23:47

I was deleted for criticising an OP who had started a thread highlighting the foreign sounding name of the Southport child murdered.

I was emailed and told my account t would be suspended if I didn’t adhere to guidelines.

i had already (before commenting) reported thread to be racist and inciting hatred. When MN did nothing I called OP out on this and my comment deleted. The OP then went on to state that people born in Britain to immigrant parents were less British. That comment obviously deleted and then funnily enough MN decided to pull whole thread

yet I am threatened with suspension for trying to flag the goady racist OP in the first instance.

it’s insane. And I’ll probably be deleted for this and suspended.

That doesn’t surprise me, I had a comment deleted asking a poster not to call me a P*i I was then threatened with suspension. The comment calling me a P*i remained for over a week.

piscofrisco · 03/08/2024 06:36

At this point I think we should call in the army. These nasty individuals are not brave and will go home if faced with an armed man. And it's not fair on the police to have to desk with this really.

Simonjt · 03/08/2024 06:39

Lentilweaver · 03/08/2024 00:46

I saw that thread and commented on it. Appalled that you have been threatened with suspension! It was a dogwhistling thread started by a racist OP. I have been appalled by the open racism on here lately. Posters saying they want to live in only white areas,posters defending rioters, posters speculating that the Southport murderer was radicalised by Islamists..... its been absolutely horrific.

This is exactly why the Muslim and Black Mners often stick to their forums, so they can talk about their fears freely. Ghettos right here on MN. I am S Asian myself, but I don't want to only post in the S Asian forum.

Its frustrating isn’t it, I’m South Asian, I’m also Sikh, a racist mner made a thread about me on reddit taking the piss out of both my erhnicity and religion, they also found it appropriate to mock my childs browness and the fact that he often wears Sikh hairstyles. Other members on reddit were falling over themselves to post racist crap, apparently like all Asians I’m cruel to my pet cat and I brag about this on MN and pet threads are full of my deleted posts about animal cruelty, they also said I must hate my son as apparently I as a Pakistani went to India and bought him off someone, and as Pakistani people all hate Indians I hate my son. They were also saying as I’m Asian its almost guaranteed that I’m swindling people out of money merely by existing. I managed to find out who the OP was due to a racist PM they sent me.

Simonjt · 03/08/2024 06:43

piscofrisco · 03/08/2024 06:36

At this point I think we should call in the army. These nasty individuals are not brave and will go home if faced with an armed man. And it's not fair on the police to have to desk with this really.

The army is the home of a lot of the UKs right wing racist thugs.

Lilysgoneshopping · 03/08/2024 06:52

abignael · 03/08/2024 00:57

I can tell where someone gets their news.

Choosing to deny something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Rainbowsponge · 03/08/2024 06:58

Simonjt · 03/08/2024 06:43

The army is the home of a lot of the UKs right wing racist thugs.

I think it used to be, but the situation has been improved

Simonjt · 03/08/2024 07:00

Rainbowsponge · 03/08/2024 06:58

I think it used to be, but the situation has been improved

Really?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c84jzex9vk8o.amp

wastingtimeonhere · 03/08/2024 07:02

Two customers who were waiting yesterday were talking about it. Conversation went something like this while waiting for their goods.
C1-'bloody illegals, over here, need rounding up and sending back, bloody third world attitudes'
C2- 'that kid in Southport was from Cardiff, apparently born there'
c1- 'don't be fucking naive, course he wasn't, that was put out to cover it up, they have blood on their hands, wasnt a fucking kid either, look..< gets his phone out> another fucking one came in claiming to be a kid, got to be 30 at least''

Makes you wonder how many others believe this bollocks.

Rainbowsponge · 03/08/2024 07:06

Oh I’m not defending that at all, or saying they’re perfect, but incidences like that are rarer than they used to be (apparently, I’m not in the army)

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 03/08/2024 07:08

piscofrisco · 03/08/2024 06:36

At this point I think we should call in the army. These nasty individuals are not brave and will go home if faced with an armed man. And it's not fair on the police to have to desk with this really.

The army? Who decorate corridors with swastikas, talk about how they should "tar and feather" and "lynch" a black female soldier while calling her racist names? The people involved in what's in this article will probably see the riots as a recruitment event.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c84jzex9vk8o.amp

Leavetheminthebowl · 03/08/2024 07:22

They're using women and children as their excuse for rioting but I wonder how many of them are known to social services...

They're the worst part of this country. The uneducated gammons who've never left their home town, covered in self-done tattoos, spit on the ground on the way to the corner shop to buy baccy, share bullshit about chemtrails and 5G masts on the local Facebook groups and live in endless paranoia and belligerence about migrants living in hotels.

They all want rounding up and launching into the sea.

Efacsen · 03/08/2024 07:30

LiterallyOnFire · 03/08/2024 00:24

I might be confused but I thought EDL had gone the way of the BNP - into oblivion.

So the references to EDL being involved... is that literally true does anyone know? Are they back? Or what?

Maybe I'm confusing them with some other gang of racist thugs.

Same people - they've just changed the name of their 'group' which unfortunately I cant remember atm

Lentilweaver · 03/08/2024 07:30

Good god, @Simonjt that's really horrible, but I can well believe it. I am not usually on the political and current news threads as they call for more nuance than I can summon up, sometimes. There may be valid concerns. But there is no nuance about violent thugs calling for violence against anyone who is non-white.

I have also noticed that even on unrelated threads about completely different subjects, posters have been taking the opportunity to say something nasty about immigrants. One gets tired of reporting.

Lentilweaver · 03/08/2024 07:35

For instance, on an innocent thread about a Mner trying to find a job, someone has posted that white men can't get a job these days. Really, that's news to me, having been told a million times that I should change my funny foreign name.

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