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Sunderland police station set on fire

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 02/08/2024 22:20

It appears that the rioters have set Sunderland police station on fire

news.sky.com/story/southport-violence-stabbings-attack-riot-london-hartlepool-misinformation-sky-news-blogs-13186819

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LarkLane · 03/08/2024 00:42

SloaneStreetVandal · 03/08/2024 00:33

Well that's my question. Is it a far right lie, or is there truth in it? I'd like to hear the reality from people who live in diverse (densely populated) areas/cities.

As others who live in or around Southport will tell you. The biggest problem we have in Southport is pissed up white men coming from outside town for a night out.
As in many seaside towns.

Rainbowsponge · 03/08/2024 00:43

abignael · 03/08/2024 00:42

That Question Time incident is such an important an example of why platforming someone in a way that makes them appear legitimate proliferates their views even if they are thoroughly disproven in the process. The whole ordeal made the BNP look stupid but still boosted their polling. It’s really important that when the media discuss issues like this it does not present these racist thugs as legitimate politically in any way.

But he never even made it as an MP. I find that really comforting - he aired his craziness and the public didn’t want it. Sure, a few thugs in certain parts of the country were cheering him, but like the Monster Raving Loony party it will never be concentrated enough to seize any serious power.

Blackcats7 · 03/08/2024 00:45

abignael · 02/08/2024 22:36

I genuinely feel that Farage is criminally liable for this rioting now, his rhetoric has stoked this. X as a platform has become absolutely vile, I can hardly escape far-right posts. Elon Musk has a lot to answer for allowing people like Tommy Robinson and Andrew Tate to remain on his platform.

I agree but would add in the last government too. Scapegoating immigrants was a useful diversion tactic for them and Braverman went even further than that.

These thugs attacking a police station is even more proof of their stupidity. What exactly have the police done to contribute to the poor little girls who were murdered and others injured? This is about lawlessness and criminality not standing up for children.

AgathaMysterie · 03/08/2024 00:45

I’m glad you said ‘Listening to their accents’ @PeapodRas. They might cover their faces but there are so many ways (better not to reveal) that show who they are.
They insult the memory of those poor little girls, trample over the feelings of their families and are holding the country to ransom.
I feel as if a lot of people will be affected by them this weekend, too frightened to go out, their property and homes vandalised, shopkeepers insurance invalidated by civil unrest, emergency services under appalling pressure.
Thank god for counter-riot groups.

Lentilweaver · 03/08/2024 00:46

GoadyMcBigot · 02/08/2024 23:47

I was deleted for criticising an OP who had started a thread highlighting the foreign sounding name of the Southport child murdered.

I was emailed and told my account t would be suspended if I didn’t adhere to guidelines.

i had already (before commenting) reported thread to be racist and inciting hatred. When MN did nothing I called OP out on this and my comment deleted. The OP then went on to state that people born in Britain to immigrant parents were less British. That comment obviously deleted and then funnily enough MN decided to pull whole thread

yet I am threatened with suspension for trying to flag the goady racist OP in the first instance.

it’s insane. And I’ll probably be deleted for this and suspended.

I saw that thread and commented on it. Appalled that you have been threatened with suspension! It was a dogwhistling thread started by a racist OP. I have been appalled by the open racism on here lately. Posters saying they want to live in only white areas,posters defending rioters, posters speculating that the Southport murderer was radicalised by Islamists..... its been absolutely horrific.

This is exactly why the Muslim and Black Mners often stick to their forums, so they can talk about their fears freely. Ghettos right here on MN. I am S Asian myself, but I don't want to only post in the S Asian forum.

abignael · 03/08/2024 00:47

Rainbowsponge · 03/08/2024 00:43

But he never even made it as an MP. I find that really comforting - he aired his craziness and the public didn’t want it. Sure, a few thugs in certain parts of the country were cheering him, but like the Monster Raving Loony party it will never be concentrated enough to seize any serious power.

And Thank God for that! I think Reform pose a far more serious threat having graduated from the true political fringes. My main concern is while the majority of the country will look on in scorn, if not dealt with correctly media coverage could inadvertently fuel this. I would suggest people stop referring to those involved as ‘protesters’ specifically.

Lilysgoneshopping · 03/08/2024 00:50

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Meadowfinch · 03/08/2024 00:54

Chika89 · 02/08/2024 22:29

Genuine question - what are they rioting about? I know it’s been triggered by the recent stabbing a but what specifically? I’ve just watched BBC news and they’re very wishy washy with their coverage. They attribute it to the attack but otherwise give no context. What is going on??? Someone please explain to me, thanks

I think there's a pent-up resentment at having less cash than is comfortable, sky high rents or mortgages, difficulties accessing the things they see others having on social media. Add in drink, drugs, a hot humid night, boredom, and some rabble rousing. Being persuaded that rents would be lower, everything would be easier etc if it wasn't for 'immigrants'.

Their anger is not all unreasonable but their scapegoating and their way of expressing it is. We need a year of the new govt resolving disputes, a year of falls in interest rates and inflation to calm things down.

I'm not making excuses for it but failure to understand people's anger would be a mistake.

AvrielFinch · 03/08/2024 00:56

@Lilysgoneshopping Not true.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3geqp8vx08o

abignael · 03/08/2024 00:57

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I can tell where someone gets their news.

AvrielFinch · 03/08/2024 00:59

abignael · 03/08/2024 00:57

I can tell where someone gets their news.

So can I, but some is true. The Jewish man was treated appallingly and the police later apologised to him. But this is what happens. Things that are not true are recited alongside things that are true.

Lifeomars · 03/08/2024 01:01

Chika89 · 02/08/2024 22:29

Genuine question - what are they rioting about? I know it’s been triggered by the recent stabbing a but what specifically? I’ve just watched BBC news and they’re very wishy washy with their coverage. They attribute it to the attack but otherwise give no context. What is going on??? Someone please explain to me, thanks

Thick racist people fed lies and propaganda by the likes of Farage, Tice, Anderson, Bravermann, GB news, the Daily Mail, and social media that their sad lives are the fault of people with brown skin. A young male with brown skin allegedly perpetrated the horrific murders in Southport and this means that in their world all people with brown skin are criminals. Then factor in a love of going out on the piss, taking lines of coke, smashing things up and having a fight, add some hot weather and away we go! If the alledged killer was white and it was cold and wet I very much doubt this would be happening Tomorrow is going to be horrible by the looks of things

abignael · 03/08/2024 01:04

Lifeomars · 03/08/2024 01:01

Thick racist people fed lies and propaganda by the likes of Farage, Tice, Anderson, Bravermann, GB news, the Daily Mail, and social media that their sad lives are the fault of people with brown skin. A young male with brown skin allegedly perpetrated the horrific murders in Southport and this means that in their world all people with brown skin are criminals. Then factor in a love of going out on the piss, taking lines of coke, smashing things up and having a fight, add some hot weather and away we go! If the alledged killer was white and it was cold and wet I very much doubt this would be happening Tomorrow is going to be horrible by the looks of things

I am absolutely prepped for “Day of Shame” Sunday headlines from the looks of things. Crossing my fingers from some heavy showers.

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 03/08/2024 01:10

The met police have emailed out where each protest group will be held tomorrow. I mean, pro palestein marches and whatever this group are called in London at the same time.
what could go wrong?

Lifeomars · 03/08/2024 01:12

Tosstyhat · 02/08/2024 23:15

I've stopped going on it. It's a cesspit and a racist circlejerk.

It's totally foul now, I used to love it, mainly followed authors, a few comedians,accounts about cats and gardening plus a few parody political accounts. Nobody I follow shows up in my notifications anymore, I have to do a search and yes, they are posting stuff but i don't get to see it. Then the other day I got a notification about a tweet put out by that idiot Lee Anderson, who I detest and would never follow because he is so unpleasant. The whole platform is heavily manipulated and there are so many shockingly racist accounts on there posting unspeakable things that I have given up with it

SloaneStreetVandal · 03/08/2024 01:12

abignael · 03/08/2024 00:57

I can tell where someone gets their news.

It's a fair question though. Nobody wins unless everybody wins.

Lifeomars · 03/08/2024 01:17

CheatingMenz · 02/08/2024 23:40

The water cannon bought by Johnson were sold in 2016. He bought them when he didn't even have permission to use them.

and they were broken and didn't work apparently. Heard somewhere that they got sold on Ebay but guess that was just a joke

Lifeomars · 03/08/2024 01:19

Lisbeth50 · 02/08/2024 23:50

If these people are so patriotic, why aren't they inside watching the Olympics and supporting GB?

Think it would be a bit intellectually challenging for them and how would they cope seeing non-white people winning things ?

RafaistheKingofClay · 03/08/2024 01:19

AvrielFinch · 03/08/2024 00:59

So can I, but some is true. The Jewish man was treated appallingly and the police later apologised to him. But this is what happens. Things that are not true are recited alongside things that are true.

Are we talking about the incident with Gideon Falter, here?

mouseyowl · 03/08/2024 01:33

@LarkLane Grin

HollyFern1110 · 03/08/2024 01:38

@abignael I hadn’t made the connection between riots & the gap in the football season but was wondering why rioting seems to be a summer sport.

DC was born during the 2011 riots & it’s his birthday next week.

The whole thing just makes no sense at all.

Lifeomars · 03/08/2024 01:38

abignael · 03/08/2024 01:04

I am absolutely prepped for “Day of Shame” Sunday headlines from the looks of things. Crossing my fingers from some heavy showers.

I will look forward to that. Have you seen the magnificent viral videos of two separate events at the Southport riots. The first one shows a man getting hit in the head by a brick thrown by his own lot of thugs, he turns to shout at them and another brick clobbers him in the balls! I think i have watched it 20 times. In the second one a yob is given multiple warnings to step back by a dog handling police officer. He refuses of course because he is big and tough and manly. Then the dog grabs him by the back of his shorts. Cue squealing of "police brutality" wonderful stuff

mouseyowl · 03/08/2024 01:39

Aren't they just idiot football hooligans and wife beaters whipped up by the twats who use racism to make a name for themselves and earn a nice penny?
Disgusting people who deserve their disgusting lives.
Yes none cares about them, is it a surprise? Who wants to rub shoulders with those guys?
Drugged up on cheap drugs, I'm not known for my sympathy for the police, but it must be incredibly tough out there for them, hope the rains come and the racists go back to their caves.

mouseyowl · 03/08/2024 01:47

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Aren't you charming with your faux arguments.
Is your DH/DP/DS one of those sport direct rioters? Lucky you.