Three woman murdered in Hertfordshire.

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Absolutely shocking. A 26 year old man named as Kyle Clifford, believed to be armed with a crossbow, is being sought by police.
The dead women are aged 61, 28 and 25.

ITV Evening news said police were still hunting him

The poor women. I’m so sorry for them and their suffering, and the poor surviving husband and family members

Once you get involved with a person of bad character for wont of a better phrase, it’s so hard to extricate your self

And worse still if they can’t rationalise the situation reasonably themselves and walk away.

As a student, my drunken boyfriend smashed a bottle in my room, and threatened to cut my neck with it.

I was probably lucky he was just hateful and drunk and not on drugs, because I told him to just do it.

I couldn’t reason with him, and my saying to kill me, jolted him enough to stop.

I was lucky

But I’m probably only here today due to my lovely uni friend P, who ran to the nearest phone box and called the police when he smashed our front door and held me down in the bed threatening me.

He tried to do himself in, there's first aid paraphernalia on the ground.

That poor man John hunt.

I can't imagine the blow of losing your wife and two daughters in one go.

It reminds me of something I read. I'm really into spirituality and near death experiences.

I read this book about near death experiences.
A man said that he had been in a car crash. The car crash had killed his wife and three children in one go. He was the only one left alive.
He said he was so distraught and didn't care anymore if he lived or died, that he lost his job became homeless and just walked around the streets for a year drinking heavily. He said he was lying in a road drunk when a car hit him and he died for a couple of minutes. He was dead for several minutes till the hospital revived him. He said when he was dead be saw his family and they all told him that they were OK where they were and that he would see them again. He woke up and he was able to get his life back together in a better way.

This case today just made me think of that.
How awful to lose your whole family in one go

A suspect has been found and is receiving medical treatment apparently

Good point. That's another factor.

These men cannot accept rejection. Women are purely belongings to them.

It took almost two years to stop mine stalking me.

Higher testosterone has show to correlate with physical aggression and anger. and also shown to correlate with a greater number of children.

It's an interrelated problem between the sexes. Someone said it's "on men" and they aren't motivated to change this, well why would they be when on an evolutionary level the same thing that makes them violent is the same thing that makes them successful?

No doubt he will die and family robbed of any justice. RIP to those 3 lovely ladies

Well, we do have to accept that hormones drive emotions - lots of posts on here from women going through the menopause who say they feel irritated/angry a lot of the time, or not as ‘nurturing’ or tolerant of nonsense as they were before.

I don’t know what the answer is, as with everything there’s an element of socialisation but also an element of men being biologically predisposed to violence and I don’t know how to solve it completely. I don’t think we ever will tbh

Those poor and their surviving dad/DH and other family members.

I hope the pathetic twat doesn’t die so he can live with what he’s done.

I’m so sick of abusive men and their “if I can’t have you, no one can” mentality.

Imagine being so pathetic that you feel the need to punish your ex and their family, simply because they don’t want to be with you.

I’m glad prisoners like dishing out their own justice.

We are local, such a dreadful tragedy for the family and unsurprising cowardly actions by the perpetrator trying to end his own life. I hope he dies a long painful death I don't have any confidence that justice system would deal with him any where near needed

I think several men would feel nothing about killing .

They can so they will.

Even the knowledge of a likely jail sentence doesn't stop them.

If they want to kill they will. They don't care. We live in a hard tough cold society.

He tried to hang himself in hilly fields cemetery apparently.

Probably 🙄Although apparently his brother got 23 years for "only" one murder so hopefully this scumbags sentence reflects that

Fuck sake he better not have deprived himself of oxygen long enough to cause a TBI. I want him to stand trial and get the fullest sentence possible for the evil he has committed today.

Well unless women's biology massively shifts towards clamouring over podgy passive men, the only actual solution at this point in time is to give estrogen to male children. That's hardly practical.

On a societal level it's like many of the other seemingly unsolvable problems we have, drugs, homelessness, climate etc.

No, that's just wrong. Women suffer MUCH more violence from men than the other way around.

I just read there that he used to be in the army.

That makes it make a tiny bit more sense.

#notallarmymen.

But any man that I've met that used to be in the UK army, talked to me about seeing terrible deaths and having ptsd.

Being around death and destruction in the army is bound to mess your head a bit

Not all army men go out and murder loads of people. So that is not a cause.

But it may be a part of an explosive cocktail of what mixed for him to become a killer

Yes, social workers that were shite and added nothing to my life. They in fact made it worse.

I really don't get your point. It's still a choice to repeat bad choices.

I've built a good life with three incredible children. One who does a job that benefits the whole country.

I can't imagine what that poor man is going through , they say life can change in a heartbeat but my god .

As for the excuse of a human who has been found , well I hope he dies and failing that nothing short of a whole life sentence will do .

The family seem complete wronguns , to have two murderous sons defies belief

Being around death and destruction in the army is bound to mess your head a bit

He’s in his mid 20s, I doubt he’s done any hardcore tours tbh

I can only imagine how frightened those poor women were, and I am so pleased the man who did this has been caught and will spend the rest of his life being punished, but sadly, so will the women's family and friends.

It is men who commit these crimes against women 95% of the time, but they also commit these types of crimes against each other. Men have always been, and continue to be, a big fucking problem for women.

In 2023, 71%) of murder victims were male with around 3 in 10 being female (29%). For those female victims where a suspect had been charged, 95% of those suspects were male. Similarly, for male victims, 93% of suspects were also male'.
Homicide in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics (ons.gov.uk)

I looked at the uk prison figures only 4% of them are women.
Realisitcally though how many more men should be in prison than there are?

He overpowered presumably 3 women. And waited or attacked when the man was out of the houyse

Yeah maybe.

I don't know his particular instance.

Even if he didn't go on actual assignments with the army. He would have been trained to use weapons.

Again it's not an excuse for what he did. But probably only one of many things that made him like he was