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Dominic C Covid evidence 2

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Newtonianmechanics · 20/11/2023 15:44

New thread for if old fills up.

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minou123 · 07/12/2023 12:58

Oof, the KC for the Bereaved Families is not putting up with BJ bullshit

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 12:58

Inquiry breaks for lunch

He really didn't like those questions asked by Weatherby

minou123 · 07/12/2023 13:15

Ha ha ha, that's brilliant.

Boris: "Fuck you Daily Mail"

Hmm......which paper does Boris currently write a column for?

oh yes, thats right........the Daily Mail. 😂

minou123 · 07/12/2023 13:55

And we're back with NI Beteaved families.

minou123 · 07/12/2023 14:01

Campbell is going in hard.

Very moving.

TokyoSushi · 07/12/2023 14:06

Oh I've not seen this lady before, she's fabulous.

minou123 · 07/12/2023 14:09

I'm trying not to rehash partgate, but Boris excuse that Downing Street was working hard, so having paries, cheese and wine, Christmas quiz was well deserved and ok to keep up morale, really pisses me off.

Everyone was working hard. In my view, doctors and nurses were working far harder than him.

And going through a time where a family member is dying, grieving, preparing funeral is far harder than working in No 10.

Holding the hand of a dying family member is far harder than coming up with the latest slogan or deciding if to put the country back into lockdown. .

God, I'm getting angry now. 😡

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 14:13

He is now saying he could not have done more to stop the gatherings

IClaudine · 07/12/2023 14:57

Campbell is brilliant. He really doesn't like being told to be succinct. Or to be told anything.

IClaudine · 07/12/2023 14:58

minou123 · 07/12/2023 14:09

I'm trying not to rehash partgate, but Boris excuse that Downing Street was working hard, so having paries, cheese and wine, Christmas quiz was well deserved and ok to keep up morale, really pisses me off.

Everyone was working hard. In my view, doctors and nurses were working far harder than him.

And going through a time where a family member is dying, grieving, preparing funeral is far harder than working in No 10.

Holding the hand of a dying family member is far harder than coming up with the latest slogan or deciding if to put the country back into lockdown. .

God, I'm getting angry now. 😡

Totally agree. Everyone who made the sacrifice in small and big ways to keep to the rules was working hard.

minou123 · 07/12/2023 15:22

Thomas is on. I think his questions with other witnesses has been good.

Let's see how he approaches Boris

minou123 · 07/12/2023 15:29

The 1st 10 doctors who died from Covid were from ethnic minority background.

BJ claims he spotted that early on, and tried to find out why.
But Thomas is asking what measures where put in place.
But BJ can't answer that, because they did sweet F A.

His answers are not helping.him
-Essentialky he is sayimg "oh yes I knew that, but I did nothing about it"

minou123 · 07/12/2023 15:37

Classic

After Boris has waffled on and the Chair has had to jump in......
Thomas: I'm sure you are not trying to talk to run out the clock, Mr Johnson. You wouldn't dream of that, would you?" <with a crafty eye roll>

jgw1 · 07/12/2023 15:37

Has Boris just said he wanted to keep schools open?

Doesn't he know he was Prime Minister and so could have ensured the steps needed to keep schools open safely were taken?

Zonder · 07/12/2023 16:07

jgw1 · 07/12/2023 15:37

Has Boris just said he wanted to keep schools open?

Doesn't he know he was Prime Minister and so could have ensured the steps needed to keep schools open safely were taken?

I distinctly remember him on TV announcing the first schools closure. Wonder who had the power to keep them open, if that's what he wanted.

minou123 · 07/12/2023 16:09

Bloody hell, hold on a minute, is Boris trying to say that old people were telling him that they could sacrificed for the good of the country. And that's why he wrote/said those terrible comments about the elderly?

Did I hear that right?

bombastix · 07/12/2023 16:10

The thing about being a massive narcissist is that it is jolly difficult to keep track of all the things you've said to people

bombastix · 07/12/2023 16:14

Also his use of word salad is classically narcissistic.

catscatscurrantscurrants · 07/12/2023 16:15

This makes for painful listening. I wouldn't be so frustrated if he just hung his head and admitted they failed us all when we relied on them for strong, decisive, humane leadership, but he doubles down on the bluster and prevarication.

Roussette · 07/12/2023 16:16

He has gone on and on about this... he wants people to be able to express what they feel. This is obviously the only defence his legal lot could come up with.

It means meetings can be vitriolic, nasty and out of control. Because that was how he was.

minou123 · 07/12/2023 16:26

Roussette · 07/12/2023 16:16

He has gone on and on about this... he wants people to be able to express what they feel. This is obviously the only defence his legal lot could come up with.

It means meetings can be vitriolic, nasty and out of control. Because that was how he was.

Exactly

That's his defence- in his government you could say what ever the fuck you want, even if it is offensive, nasty or untrue, because...wait for it..... he didn't want anyone to feel embarrassed and apparently it stifles ideas if you use professional language.

I remember during his PMship, different ministers sent out to answer the morning media questions and being flabbergasted at the stupid shit these ministers used to spout.

It is now clear, this wasn't a mistake or the ministers didn't just come up with the crap out of thin air - this was the purposefully done and how Boris wanted the Government to operate.

Roussette · 07/12/2023 16:28

He's doubling down on his awful statements.

If he has to say it, say it vocally if you have to (he doesn't) but how good this TUC guy is calling him out on it the WAs

Roussette · 07/12/2023 16:38

It's over. He is blathering on with a final statement.

He has no shame.

minou123 · 07/12/2023 16:44

What a piece of shit he is.

Look at him trying to butter them up at the end and trying to influence the outcome.

I loved Hallet's come back at the end
Boris: waffle waffle.....its important the public know about how covid happened, I know its not within your scope, but its important everyone understands and forms part of the outcome blah blah blah

Hallet: Mr Johnson, you set the inquiry's terms of reference.
< everyone laughs>

Brilliant from Hallet.

DuncinToffee · 07/12/2023 17:12

I had to miss most of the afternoon session

from the Guardian

'Self-serving' Johnson unfit for power, say bereaved families

After Johnson’s second appearance at the inquiry, Becky Kummer a spokesperson for Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice UK, says:

Our questioning today showed that Johnson’s claims about the pandemic fall apart under the slightest scrutiny.

He did not ‘get the big calls right’, he failed to take the pandemic seriously in early 2020 leaving us brutally unprepared, and failed to learn from his mistakes meaning that the second wave had an even higher death toll than the first. The NHS was in fact severely overwhelmed, which he would know if he had met with the many thousands of bereaved families whose loved ones either couldn’t get in to hospital, or couldn’t get the treatment they needed once there. The UK was not ‘in the middle of the pack’, it suffered the second highest death toll in western Europe.

As his messages showed today, even when he knew measures needed to be taken to protect lives, he delayed for fear of how it might impact his reputation with certain sections of the press.

If his vanity hadn’t taken priority over public health, many thousands of people, including my dad, might still be with us today. There are many lessons from the pandemic that might save lives in the future, but one of them is undoubtedly that someone as self-serving as Boris Johnson is not fit for power.